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ZariusTwo 07-10-2015 05:48 PM

DC Restore Super-Marriage In "Superman: Lois And Clark"
 
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Old-School Superscribe Dan Jurgens picks up where his well-received Convergence tie-ins left off as pre-flashpoint Clark and his wife Lois raise their young son on a world where the familiar villains Superman faced have yet to be created...but that will soon change. Lois investigates Intergang, and their son is on the verge of discovering his parents true identities.

http://m.uk.ign.com/articles/2015/07...with-their-son

Leo656 07-10-2015 10:08 PM

Heeeey, well that's somethin'.

Very savvy on DC's part, as the Lois & Clark stuff seems like the only thing anyone actually liked from that Convergence mess. It was definitely the most popular thing. I'm gonna try and get this. Jurgens is one of the only guys alive I trust with Superman, and by far the best of the Modern Age scribes. That and the premise has me intrigued.

ZariusTwo 07-11-2015 07:00 AM

Yeah, I like that Lois also has her own side-quest and putting her investigative side to good use to protect her loved ones, and the idea of Clark having an awareness of the villains before they come into being opens up a rich sense of morality play questions. For a company not too bothered with continuity anymore, I think this book will still serve us with some of that since it informs Clark very much of who he is and what his world had endured under the more fleshed out villains

ZariusTwo 07-13-2015 06:22 AM

Some more details, as Dan Jurgens clarifies a very important plot twist

The Earth Lois and Clark have settled on is post-Flashpoint New 52 Earth

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In his newly-announced series Superman: Lois and Clark, writer Dan Jurgens will return to the pre-Flashpoint Superman, his wife Lois and their newly-introduced son Jonathan.

The difference is, unike the hundred-plus Superman issues Jurgens wrote and/or drew in the '80s and '90s, he and artist Lee Weeks will be taking the Kent Family into the post-Flashpoint world, where that Superman has been secretly living for nine years on an as-yet-undisclosed mission, raising his family looking on in wonder at the strange world around him.

Jurgens joined ComicBook.com for a brief discussion on the new title, which is due out in October.

Right around the time you came on Superman the first time, they had launched Adventures of Superman, based on the radio and TV series of the same name. Is Superman: Lois & Clark named for Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman?

I think what it really reflects is the relationship between Lois and Clark, and the whole idea is that I understand what you're saying about the TV show. That show was about their relationship. This book is about their relationship, wrapped in the world of Superman and with the addition of their son Jonathan.

And it is how they live on this world. What are the ramifications of living in this universe where we've seen Superman's secret identity outed? That kind of thing. How have they been able to pull this off? How has no one noticed, "You look kind of like that guy?" That's part of the beard right now, for example.

So it's a very different story, but at its core, it's a family book. It's a family unit. It's Lois and Clark and Jonathan and if you go back to the Convergence issues that I wrote, where Thomas Wayne talked to him about doing what he could do -- "whatever you do, keep your child safe" -- that's the core of the book in terms of that part of it.

Superman has had a mission here all along, and we're going to explore all of that.

With Jonathan, what motivated the decision to jump to nine years old, or was it just that you needed Superman's history on this planet in the story?

It's a couple of things. First of all, when you write about an infant, it's not like that infant becomes that character in and of itself. But we have some definite ideas for what we want to do with Jonathan and that nine-year-old timeline sort of fits in perfectly -- in a way just like it did with Damian and Bruce Wayne in Batman.

That nine-year-old timeframe fits great, and it also fits great with this idea that they have been here all along. They have been monitoring events, Superman has been doing stuff behind the scenes and had a very active role all along, and it is how do they react to this different universe for them, where people may have the same names, but they're not at all the same characters?

Now, we really take that on like a head-on question because that's part of the core of the book.

The version of Superman that you wrote for many years had a very different Krypton. Once they changed that around, it changed a lot of the trappings and a lot of his villains. Does this Superman have The Man of Steel or Secret Origin in his rear-view mirror -- or does it not matter?

I won't say that it doesn't matter. I think what's most important to understand is, his background still reflects that very classic Superman background that was of that era. Yes, visually things were changed with Krypton, but still the same basic core concepts were in place, and they're in place here.

This is a Superman whose parents lived on -- and when I say "parents," I mean Jonathan and Martha Kent -- and that makes him different from the current Superman. And it's someone who has this relationship with Lois as such that he would look at this world's Superman and Wonder Woman and say "Everything is different."

http://comicbook.com/2015/07/12/dan-...clarifies-the/

ZariusTwo 08-21-2015 04:32 AM

Some preview images

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MsMarvelDuckie 08-22-2015 01:57 PM

Why couldn' Marvel have done something like this? Im jealous now....

ZariusTwo 08-22-2015 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie (Post 1496417)
Why couldn' Marvel have done something like this? Im jealous now....

Exactly what I was thinking. A universe shared by a married and a single Spider-Man would have been interesting, but hey, given how Truth is developing, it'll be even better to see how New 52 Lois and Clark's relationship stacks up to their predecessors when the pairs eventually meet.

ZariusTwo 08-29-2015 03:22 AM

Jurgens talks Lois and Clark

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In the upcoming Superman: Lois & Clark series, the married Clark Kent and Lois Lane from the pre-New 52 continuity are back. They are now trapped and in hiding in this new Earth, trying to raise their 9-year-old son Jon as if they are a normal family. "For Lois and Clark, it’s a world that they barely recognize...a place where they have to hide their true identities,“ says series writer Dan Jurgens, a veteran Superman writer who fans will remember from the classic “Death of Superman” story of the 1990s. "On the other hand, their son, Jon, embraces this world as his own. It’s the only one he’s ever known. In a way, it’s a bit of a classic immigrant story where the parents—unlike their kids—are a bit out of place."

ZariusTwo 09-03-2015 05:24 AM

http://i.newsarama.com/images/i/000/...jpg?1441229741

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For readers who wanted the pre-Flashpoint Superman back on the main DCU earth, Superman: Lois and Clark is a wish come true.

Thanks to the events of Convergence, it's been revealed that the older, married, pre-reboot versions Clark Kent and Lois Lane are alive and well on DC's Prime Earth — hiding for years among the residents of the "New 52" universe.

And with Superman: Lois and Clark #1, their nine-year-old son Jon will start to figure out who his parents really are.

http://www.newsarama.com/25766-super...ontinuity.html

Krutch 09-04-2015 05:06 PM

Sorry, I haven't been following comics in a few years now. After reading this, I'm still a little confused(also very, very tired at work :P) Is this more or less a spiritual sequel to Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman?

ZariusTwo 09-04-2015 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Krutch (Post 1499722)
Sorry, I haven't been following comics in a few years now. After reading this, I'm still a little confused(also very, very tired at work :P) Is this more or less a spiritual sequel to Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman?

No, not in the slightest.

Krutch 09-04-2015 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1499736)
No, not in the slightest.

........:cry:

ZariusTwo 09-05-2015 05:54 AM

Basically, if you read Superman in the 90s through to the 2000s, this is that Superman and Lois, now inhabiting a universe shared by two different versions of Lois and Clark that have been the mainstream representations since 2011. In this universe, Superman's identity is public knowledge (due to Lois outing him in order to protect him from blackmail), which makes life difficult for the Superman featured in this book who's trying to keep his family safe.

Martian_Turtlesaurus 09-15-2015 03:28 AM

I really like the concept except for the son part. Kryptonians being that biologically compatible with humans bothers me and takes the last of his kind loneliness away from the character.
Also I think the son was a big obstacle (amongst many) for Superman returns sequel. It's a whole new game for Lois and Clark.
It kind of sounds more like dragon ball (I wonder if Jonathan will be more powerful like Gohan was) all in all sounds interesting as they are willing to try something new.
Now if they could only make a comic of Nightwing and Oracle as a marriage I would be very happy.

ZariusTwo 09-15-2015 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Martian_Turtlesaurus (Post 1501883)
I really like the concept except for the son part. Kryptonians being that biologically compatible with humans bothers me and takes the last of his kind loneliness away from the character.

That does'nt need to apply to this Superman, seeing as DC have a new version to pile all that tiresome and outdated angst on.

Leo656 09-15-2015 09:06 PM

:lol: I can't stand when they lean on how lonely and isolated he supposedly is. Those are the most boring Superman stories ever. I mean I hate when there's a million Kryptonians, too, I'm fine with like, three or four... but when they keep droning on about how "alone" he's supposed to be... I just check out. :lol:

Like, the guy usually goes most of his life before he sees the rocket (it's only in like two or three versions where he's a kid when he learns he's an alien). He more or less grew up thinking or assuming he was born here; finding out you're an alien in your 30s isn't a whole lot different than not finding out you're half-German until your 30s... a little awkward, a bit of an adjustment, maybe, but it doesn't really necessitate an entire abrupt upheaval in your life or way of thinking. I'm pretty much in favor of the versions where he learns of his origins later on, as an adult, so for me, Byrne's glib dismissal of "Wow, I'm from planet Krypton. Neat, I guess. Still the same guy, changes nothing, time to go save some stuff," and goes on with his friggin' life is how I see Clark's processing of his alien origins. Not being all angsty and whiny about it.

As far as biology, they've been doing "Imaginary" or "What-If" stories where Clark and Lois or Lana had a baby going back to like the 50s and maybe earlier, so... I always just assumed humans and Kryptonians were compatible and it just wasn't something they felt like being aggressive about mentioning in print. And in the 90s comics, if you knew exactly where to look there were some subtle but clear hints that Lois and Clark were sexually active even before they were married.

It always confused me when people by default assumed they couldn't hook up or have kids. In my head it was always the opposite. :lol: I'unno.

ZariusTwo 09-16-2015 03:28 PM

Not to mention Lois and Clark get pretty steamy in Smallville, both on-screen and in the comics, long before they scratch their seven-year itch to get married in it's canon

ZariusTwo 10-08-2015 10:07 AM

Comicvine Preview for Issue One

Leo656 10-08-2015 11:29 PM

It's nice to see the real Superman again. :ohwell: I just hate that inevitably, there's going to be some scenario where they have to "prove" why the new impostor they've had in the books for the last 5 years is more suitable to be Superman now. I mean, other than "passing the torch" from the real Superman to the new one, where else can you really go with this, long-term?

I don't know. That little bit was nice, and I'm all in favor of as much of the real Superman as we can get, I'm just not sure what the long-term plan is.

ZariusTwo 10-09-2015 05:03 AM

It doesn't help they're regurgitating, beat-for-beat, the same lines that Earth-2 Superman was saying when he broke back out into the main universe in Infinite Crisis, that there was something too edgy and faithless about the current reality. You have to wonder how demoralizing it is to have the "real" Superman come in and say something to the extent of "get off my lawn" to characters that the company are trying to sell on existing readers as being viable for the long-term.


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