CBM Movies Done Right?
 

So it seems pretty much a given that Marvel Studios is the only film company that does right by its characters. Some of Fox's X-Men movies have been decent, others have been nauseatingly bad.

So what would be your pitch, in one or two paragraphs, for one of the movies Marvel either can't or won't make?

Suggestions:

• The Incredible Hulk 2
• Fantastic Four
• Uncanny X-Men
• Ghost Rider
• Black Widow

I'd love to see an Illuminati film. I love the idea of the secret circle of powerful people and geniuses exacting change on the world without anyone else knowing. Marvel doesn't have Reed Richards or Xavier, but they have Stark, Banner, Black Panther, Doctor Strange, etc. I'd love to see a film where the Illuminati makes a huge decision, the effects of which ripple through the entire MCU, affecting everyone, but that would go unexplained or totally unnoticed if you hadn't seen the film.

Also, a Spider-Woman film. I'm not sure whether she was off-limits to Marvel Studios. Some say Sony had the rights to everything "Spider-," even though she has nothing to do with Spider-Man. If that was the case, maybe that's over. I had no problem with Spider-Man being in a separate universe, but Spider-Woman and Captain Marvel need to be together. Plus, Spider-Woman has a Hydra background, clashes with SHIELD, etc, etc. It all fits nicely.

I would mention Ms. Marvel, but I'd bet my hard-earned money that they'll drop the terrigen bomb, and she'll be in the next phase.

^^ YES, YES, YES!!! I would love all of that. We must think alike when it comes to Marvel. Also, a Spider-Woman movie could also work for bringing in the Secret Invasion arc, since she was the key to that entire storyline. (Perhaps the movie could end with her being "replaced" in preparation for the SA to take place.)

On second thought, no to the terrigen bomb, if that's what I think it is. I want the Danvers Ms. Marvel, not the cheap knock-off version. Other than that, I would like to see all of that.

"Comic book movie movies".

Fantastic Four just let Marvel do it as a movie or Netflix. Stop letting Fox Ruin the franchise

Black Widow cause who wouldn't want a 2 hour movie of Scar Jo in tight black leather:P. Also I think the character is cool

I was, in fact, referring to the current Ms. Marvel, Kamala Khan, the inhuman who got her powers from the terrigen mist.

Marvel confirmed that the Captain Marvel in the Captain Marvel movie is Danvers. So I would guess they're either changing her story so she was never Ms. Marvel, or introducing Ms. Marvel just as she takes up the title of Captain Marvel.

Urgh. Can't we just have her in space captured by the Kree? How hard is THAT?! They did it for Star Lord!! I just can't stand the "new" Ms. Marvel (for starters, she'd be more accurately a "Miss") for a variety of reasons. Starting with her entire origin. Terrigen mists only work on the Inhumans, and they have never BEEN "human", so she shouldn't even be able to BECOME one. After five issues, I came to despise everything about that character. Give me back the REAL Ms. Marvel.... Or Binary, or whatever else she want's to go by, but just let it be her. She's NOT a "legacy character". Any more than Dr. Strange is.

I sure wouldn't. Easily my least favorite part of all the Marvel movies.

If we're specifically talking about Marvel, I would definitely like to see Namor the Sub-Mariner finally get his film made. Maybe even include the android Human Torch in an appearance and have them fight like the old days.

For DC, I'd like to see the New Gods turned into a film, with focus on Orion.

I don't think I follow you. Carol Danvers and Kamala Khan coexist. Kamala isn't a new take on the character, she's a different person who took the title, as Carol wasn't using it anymore.

And this is just ONE of the reasons I can't stand her. There was no reason for a "new" Ms. Marvel just because the original changed her name again. She's done it several times, and almost always goes back. Sort of like when Spidey was using different names for a while, but went back to his old one in the end. Hec, Ant-Man (Pym) has done it too.

And that's part of the problem. Marvel has been treating some of its comic series as if the characters are nothing more than a name and/or a power-set. Hence why I called Kamala the "knock-off" version. I never said she was a new "take" on her, just that I dislike her, both as a successor to the name, AND as a character at all. To one-dimensional, stereotypical, and I HATE her powers. So lame.

No, not they aren't.

Calling her a knock-off implies she's some kind of imitation. They're nothing alike, so I don't understand how this is offensive. Are you really attached to the name?

Kamala is'nt an imitation, but she is very annoying and mainly just a big commercial avatar for tumblr morons.

Sorry, I meant to say that Marvel Studios is the only studio faithful to Marvel characters. After all, DC/WB can use any of their characters they want.

It's also the only branch of Marvel itself that is faithful to Marvel characters.

Because she's a crappy one-note wanna-be from the get-go. I mean even her "origin" is about as cheap and lazy as you can get. She CONVENTIENTLY gets (really dumb) powers, and suddenly she's taking on the persona of the very hero she idolizes most? Please. I'm disgusted by the entire concept, as it's a sign of very lazy writing, not to mention that the characters in her comic are all pretty stereotypical and predictable to begin with. And it's not the NAME I'm attached to, it's the character and who she IS. Carol has changed her name several times (and lost her powers and memory at one point) so it's not so much what she calls herself that I care about- it's the fact that the "new" holder of that particular name (who never even asked for the original holder's permission to use it) isn't worthy of it, either in OR out of universe. Kamala is a joke, tot a good character.


^This, completely. Among other things.

She's inhuman. It's in her bloodline. The mist that awakened her abilities swept the entire planet in a fairly large Marvel event, so it's not like they threw together something just for her. That's like saying a mutant has a lazy origin because all they did was grow into their teens.

But you don't have to like the character. I think it's a pretty fun book. I assume she's well received, but I don't know how it's selling. Marvel is in "push the female-fronted books, no matter what" mode, anyway. I know Captain Marvel isn't a big seller, but she's still getting a movie over Widow.

I'm sorry, but I don't even buy that "she's Inhuman" load of crock. First off, the Inhumans live ON THE MOON. They don't even mingle with normal humans, and rarely ever have- for a reason. They tend to keep to themselves unless directly threatened, and certainly don't "breed" with normal humans when they do get involved on Earth. They consider themselves "above" human affairs, and well they should. They have been around far longer, and were technically created as a superior version of the human race. (Humans were a second and apparently flawed experiment. Both were created by aliens, from the original proto-human stock- but the Inhumans were fully civilized when normal humans were still living in caves.) Normal humans are not affected by the Terrigan mist, either. De-powered mutants can be, but it warps their powers when it re-activates them. We've seen this when Pietro tried to use it to re-power mutants after M-Day. Her entire origin hinges on a ridiculous improbability, especially since the Inhumans are pretty much all Caucasian in appearance, and she's definitely NOT. It makes NO sense whatsoever.

They also have some slightly arrogant views regarding outsiders, as seen when Johnny was dating Crystal. Many of them disapproved, simply because he is an outsider. How much worse do you think it is if one falls for a "lowly" human? Blackbolt and Medusa are more tolerant, but only because of extensive dealings with them.

With mutants, it's a bit different, since they already HAVE the gene from birth, it just doesn't develop (typically- there are a few exceptions) until later during puberty. They may take time to develop their powers, but they are NATURAL. The Inhumans also are prone to deformities from the mist- in other words, just being exposed to it is no guarantee of gaining powers even for a full-blood Inhuman; it can also cause horrible physical changes instead or in addition. That's why they have a ritual to prepare them for it. Just dropping a terrigan bomb on a bunch of people is more likely to just horribly disfigure or mutate them into monstrous forms. Imagine how much more likely that would be to someone who is only 1/16th or less.... (And given her family seems pretty pure and traditional Muslim for generations, I find that EXTREMELY unlikely she's even have THAT much, if any.) It's just really unrealistic to expect long-time readers to swallow that as a plausible origin. It fails on EVERY level regarding the Inhumans.

Kamala is a human with Inhuman genes. So a Inhuman got freaky with a human at one point in history, get over it.

It's like freaking over that Bruce Banner turned into the Hulk by Gamma rays, when it's completely implausible. Freaky stuff happens in Superhero comics.