Dragonball Z Movies and One Piece crossover
 

Some dude suggested a DBZ discussion. I don't know why he didn't make it himself. This is kind of a two for one topic. Did anybody notice how the DBZ movies don't fit into the series timeline? the biggest flaw is when Dende is Earth's guardian in Return of Cooler and Gohan isn't super saiyan yet. Still a good movie but I don't understand why they weren't placed in the timeline. Then you have other movies that are in the timeline, like the first movie Deadzone and the most recent 2 DBZ movies. I think they're all pretty good. Haven't seen Bojack Unbound yet.

Then there's some kind of One Piece crossover where there is a race and the DBZ and One Piece characters participate. I'm not sure why this wasn't dubbed to English yet.

Might be a legal issue.

It could be a legal dubbing issue. I didn't think of that. Funimation has the right to dub both series, so I don't know. As far as One Piece's timeline I guess the crossover racing episode is just a for fun kind of thing and doesn't fit in. I guess that's all the DBZ movies are for the most part too. Interesting thing about One Piece is that it seems like it could be endless. If they keep looking for the treasure and never find it then it just goes on and on, which is good.

Yeah, the crossover is non canon.


And the treasure exists, but theres a reason why its so hard to find.

I wasn't suggesting a DBZ discussion, I'm pretty sure there already are some threads for it anyway.

Goku sure is super, though.

This would be quite fun considering One Piece is heavily inspired by DBZ. Not a big DBZ fan myself, but this can be quite cool if done right.

Stop beating around the bush. You wanna talk about something?

I don't know what episode of One Piece I'm on. Just whatever Adult Swim is showing. Probably my second favorite anime.

lmfao the best post in this thread

That's a pretty terrible accusation. Its Halloween so I will let it go. Not that there's anything I could do about it anyway. I've been reading up on this place so I'm familiar with your rouge's gallery of villains lol.

Knowing that Oda is great friends with Toriyama and has a love for Dragonball...I still don't see it. Even though Oda admits to having been inspired by it, I can't connect the two.

Having now watched/read a lot of DB/DBZ (just finished Namek in Kai) the differences are even more apparent to me. Dragonball, at least where I'm at, is incredibly shallow. The characters, the world(s), the "story" is all...just there. Dragonball was sort of a comedy adventure, so it really didn't matter, but it retains the same lack of depth in Z, which does away with Dragonball's silly charm and innocent nature, so all you have left are fights (which so far lack any amount of internal logic) and while it's fun and "cool" it's not all that interesting beyond the surface. There's no meat on that bone. It feels like the world, and at this point the entire universe, is empty but for the few main characters (who aren't dead at the time) and whatever enemy who happens to conveniently show up and be the strongest ever* being in existence. *until Goku beats them

In that regard, One Piece is the antithesis of DBZ. It's carried by strong characters and incredible world/story building to the point that the fights almost don't matter. I'll always point to the moment Mihawk shows up in One Piece as the point where Oda not only separates himself from your standard shonen pitfall of the power creep, something DBZ is dreadful at handling, but also opens the world up beyond the bubble of Luffy and the Straw Hats and creates a sense of place that few pieces of fiction do in general, let alone manga/anime.

Not even close. Anyone who's current in One Piece has already realized that everything is building to a very specific conclusion. The pieces have been very quietly put into place and we're all starting to realize nearly everything has happened for a reason. In the last few years Oda has begun to pull seemingly disparate plot points together in ways that are giving us a very clear view of the end of the series and he's doing it masterfully.

How the f*ck are you picking it up from Enies Lobby and watching from there

Wher the hell would one read up on the banned members Mr.G?

I feel like I know the basics. Someday I will go back to episode 1. Apparently I need to go back because this is episodic in a big saga like DBZ then. I have a lot of catching up to do.

You've misread the series entirely, which is a thing I think a lot of people do in general. I did it. Thanks to 4Kids more than anything, but yeah, I still did it.

Yeah I must have. I should go to episode 1 then and to enjoy the series properly.