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CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 12-30-2015 02:02 PM

Overlooked Characters from Comics
 
I'm starting this thread to rant about how unfairly overlooked and discarded Evelyn Crawford (code-name Starling) is.



She's absolutely badass and was the best part of the Birds of Prey run in the New 52, until continued creator changes and left turns in the ongoing narrative forced her character out. Was complete BS.

Ever since, she's dropped off the face of the earth in DC Comics and it galls me so much. Who's your favorite character who's been ill-treated lately in comics?

MsMarvelDuckie 01-02-2016 04:58 PM

I've always really liked some of the lesser-known characters in ASM, like Lt. Lamont, Ezekiel, Mr. Negative, and Toxin. Toxin, especially, deserves either his own book, or at least more stories featuring him, as he is easily the most interesting of the symbiote characters.

Jephael 01-02-2016 09:06 PM

I feel that Jagwar and Dreadmon from Mighty Mutanimals fit in this category.

ToTheNines 01-02-2016 09:08 PM

Kate Bishop aka Hawkeye, but I'm pretty sure I've only actually liked her as written by Matt Fraction. I think she's in A-Force though, and I've heard great things about that.

Too bad they completely bungled MCU Barton though... it doesn't keep them from using Kate, but it wouldn't be the same. Although, this fan mock up makes me want it anyways.

http://www.themarysue.com/wp-content...80-625x880.jpg

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 01-02-2016 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jephael (Post 1533298)
I feel that Jagwar and Dreadmon from Mighty Mutanimals fit in this category.

That's a really good point. Did they ever even contribute to the team or story in the Archie Mutanimals comics?

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 01-02-2016 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1533302)
Kate Bishop aka Hawkeye, but I'm pretty sure I've only actually liked her as written by Matt Fraction. I think she's in A-Force though, and I've heard great things about that.

Too bad they completely bungled MCU Barton though... it doesn't keep them from using Kate, but it wouldn't be the same. Although, this fan mock up makes me want it anyways.

http://www.themarysue.com/wp-content...80-625x880.jpg

Is that the girl from Parks & Rec and Safety Not Guaranteed? Totally blanking on her name, but bringing her into the MCU would be pretty amazing.

ToTheNines 01-02-2016 09:14 PM

Aubrey Plaza, yes. She's perfect for the MCU!

MikeandRaph87 01-02-2016 09:20 PM

There was a villain called the Spook that was a reoccurring threat in Batman comics. He first appeared in 1973's Detective Comics#434 and made about ten appearances lasting until Detective Comics#526 in 1983. After that decade he appeared in a crowd of villains at Blackgate and then appeared again in late 2003. He was showcased as being released into a halfway house and being rather pathetic caught by Dick and Tim for a mugging unable to adapt to modern villainy. This is a guy who escaped the electric chair with his escape artist gimmick and even convinced Batman he was dead. He was used as a pansy for Grant Morrison who claimed he was not used to his full potential. What did Grant do? He used this character to show how deadly his new creation Damien can be by beheading him. Never seen again(he actually appeared in Scooby Doo Team Up#3 though) having escaped as the great escape artist amongst the villains and never actually becoming a true Spook either. A true threat never shown true potential for decades. He needs a Catman or Calendar Man treatment. Of all the Batman foes this is the one with the greatest potential to be a reoccurring threat once again and be a note worthy villain.

http://www.comicvine.com/spook/4005-34552/images/

Jephael 01-02-2016 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1533303)
Did they ever even contribute to the team or story in the Archie Mutanimals comics?

In the beginning they certainly did, especially during the storyarc where they had to save Jagwar's mom from Null and the 4 Horsemen. Unfortunately, they didn't get much of a chance to shine as Man Ray and Mondo Gecko took center stage most of the time.

MsMarvelDuckie 01-02-2016 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1533302)
Kate Bishop aka Hawkeye, but I'm pretty sure I've only actually liked her as written by Matt Fraction. I think she's in A-Force though, and I've heard great things about that.

Too bad they completely bungled MCU Barton though... it doesn't keep them from using Kate, but it wouldn't be the same. Although, this fan mock up makes me want it anyways.

http://www.themarysue.com/wp-content...80-625x880.jpg


Barton wasn't bungled. He was pretty close to his Bendis-run Avengers role. Maybe a little more Ronin, but definitely in-line with the comics from the early 2000's.

ToTheNines 01-02-2016 09:31 PM

He's ok, I don't hate him. More than anything, just the wife an kids thing rubbed me the wrong way.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 01-02-2016 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 (Post 1533307)
A true threat never shown true potential for decades. He needs a Catman or Calendar Man treatment. Of all the Batman foes this is the one with the greatest potential to be a reoccurring threat once again and be a note worthy villain.

http://www.comicvine.com/spook/4005-34552/images/

I dunno about the others, but Catman is definitely more badass than you'd think. Love me some Secret Six.

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1533305)
Aubrey Plaza, yes. She's perfect for the MCU!

Yes, her! Damn, she's awesome.

MsMarvelDuckie 01-03-2016 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines (Post 1533316)
He's ok, I don't hate him. More than anything, just the wife an kids thing rubbed me the wrong way.

I liked it because it actually made him a bit more down to earth than the rest of the team. He felt more grounded that way. As a non powered Avenger should be.

Leo656 01-03-2016 09:40 AM

It's pretty criminal that more people aren't aware of how important Guy Gardner is.

ToTheNines 01-03-2016 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie (Post 1533427)
I liked it because it actually made him a bit more down to earth than the rest of the team. He felt more grounded that way. As a non powered Avenger should be.

It is kinda different, which is cool. Other than Reed and Sue (and even then that's a superhero couple), there aren't many popular heroes that are in a stable relationship with kids during their prime crime fighting years. Probably because that's kinda boring lol.

So I liked their little "Northampton" scene, I thought it worked well, but it was just cheap for them to rearrange Barton's story for the sake of the plot. Even just in the context of the MCU movies and tie in comics before Ultron, he was single up until then.

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1533430)
It's pretty criminal that more people aren't aware of how important Guy Gardner is.

Guy and Kyle should be the main GL's by now, along with Wally as Flash. I guess Johns and whoever else will never let the Silver Age go.

ZariusTwo 01-03-2016 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656 (Post 1533430)
It's pretty criminal that more people aren't aware of how important Guy Gardner is.

Is it a sin that I find the JL 3000 version of Guy better at the moment?:)

MikeandRaph87 01-03-2016 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo (Post 1533488)
Is it a sin that I find the JL 3000 version of Guy better at the moment?:)

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/32382524.jpg

TurtleTitan97 01-03-2016 03:16 PM

Bart Allen, Max Mercury, Jesse Quick, and Linda Park. I miss their presence in the Flash books.

And as much as I like Barry, Wally should still have remained the main Flash.

MsMarvelDuckie 01-03-2016 06:39 PM

You know who has been grossly overlooked for YEARS? Cloak and Dagger. Dazzler. Jubilee. And what about Mirage, Cannonball, and Sunspot? Basically, the entire "New Mutants" team from the 90's, and some of the less-used mutants from the X-books. Granted, Cloak and Dagger aren't actually mutants, but they haven't had a good story in decades! And they were introduced in ASM, so there's another pair from Spidey that I'd like to see more use of.

MikeandRaph87 01-03-2016 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie (Post 1533547)
You know who has been grossly overlooked for YEARS? Cloak and Dagger. Dazzler. Jubilee. And what about Mirage, Cannonball, and Sunspot? Basically, the entire "New Mutants" team from the 90's, and some of the less-used mutants from the X-books. Granted, Cloak and Dagger aren't actually mutants, but they haven't had a good story in decades! And they were introduced in ASM, so there's another pair from Spidey that I'd like to see more use of.

I have to admit I never cared much for them and felt The Rapier should have been Cloak to make it more personal and make Silvermanw rhat more devious.
http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chron...lar_s_93.shtml

What about Eddie Brock/ Venom. It has been since 2004 that the true Venom has been a tive against Spider-Man if not at least an anti-hero. Bring him back, Marvel.

I know its not a character, but the Peter/ Mary Jane marriage is only lookes at for a temporary $ spike. :(


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