Japan To New York
 

Today I was thinking about the episode where the turtles time travelled back to the fight between Yoshi and Saki. And how everything unfolds within this universe because it differs from the original Laird/Eastman comic.

• We started season one with the turtles at 15 years of age and there was the initial back story as far as Yoshi buying the turtles and their mutation.
  
• Throughout the first three seasons, we steadily get the background for the Splinter/Shredder rivalry, Karai is unmasked as Miwa etc.
  
• And towards the end of season three we get to see for ourselves, Yoshi and Saki's rivalry over Shen, Miwa/Karai as a baby, the fight sequence and when Saki takes Miwa that's where it ends. The turtles go back to present day and it is as it has always been.

But I was wondering, what happened between the fire/battle and Yoshi moving to New York, to buy the turtles to begin the whole TMNT adventure.

How long did he stay in Japan before he moved. Did the Hamato clan disband properly or just eek into nothing. Did Yoshi wait until his father died before moving. Did he at least attempt to become the new clan leader.

Any thoughts on the matter?

In season one Splinter said he had lost his home, his family, and his clan at multiple points. In the Yokai episode it was mentioned hamato yoshi's father was sick and dying. So when it is possible that Hamato Yuta told Oroku Saki the truth of his origin so that he can leave that world with a clear slate

Unfortunately Saki took the whole admission as an insult and perhaps killed Hamato Yuta right then and there. Or he dies in the fire when the Dojo burns down. He then gathered the Hamato Ninja who he knew would loyally follow him and convinced them that the Hamato clan must die.

As Ninjisu is passed from parent to child it is possible that Hamato Yoshi and Yuta are al that remain. Yoshi's mother likely passed away years before as f is no mention of her.

So if there were other ninja Saki likely killed them or made sure they didn't interfere when he goes to confront Yoshi


After his survival, Yoshi travels to New York possibly because Tang Shen had wanted to go there and mostly because the only thing he had in Japan were memories. Everyone he knew and loved was gone.

I imagine he only stayed in Japan long enough to see his wife and father get proper burial

I'm pretty sure he is dead. The episode was supposed to be darker than it was, so it might have involved showing Yuta's death. There's no way someone can survive a bad cough for 15+ years.

I did say he was dead. I meant he and Yoshi were all that remain in that they were all that had been left of that clan. When you think clan you think varrious relatives. But aside from those ninja who could be students of the Hamato clan or very distant cousins you don't see anyone aside from Yoshi and his father. So it's possible the proud Hamato family had dwindled to just Yoshi and his father by that point.