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thundermaster612 07-14-2016 08:35 AM

Do you think they would try to kill off another character?
 
Since Nick killed Splinter off but then had him be saved by the turtles thus making him live, do you think another character would be killed off? Permanently? I think if they were to do it they should go with Karai. I did used to want Splinter to stay dead but now when I look at it I see a couple things wrong with it. But those wrongs have rights within them so I wouldn't mind Splinter dying again but I doubt they will do that. I think they should go with Karai if they do it again because Splinter and Shredder both want her and it would be interesting to see everyone's reactions to it. It would affect the plot but not in a way that it could not continue properly. I still wonder what would happen if they killed a turtle off. They did in IDW but that was temporary. If a turtle were to die they could keep him in a stasis trying to heal him until the end of the series/villain death where he wakes up after/before villain death or just dies? I don't know. But do you think they will try to kill off somebody? and hopefully for good? and mention who you think it might be. Also if Karai were to die at least keep her around as a human for a while having her live with the turtles more. Just so we can see how it is.

(EDIT: AND I MEAN GOOD GUY CHARACTERS. NOT SHREDDER OR THE KRAANG OR ANY VILLAINS, THEY CAN DIE NO EFFECT WITH THE GOOD GUYS)

retr0pia75 07-14-2016 09:04 AM

I think Karai getting killed off holds a great amount of dramatic potential. I'd say go with it if the higher-ups at Nick allow it.
As for a character that I think is on the chopping block, I'd go with Kirby. Seeing as how the writers like to constantly separate him from April under some circumstance (Getting hit by a can of mutagen, getting sucked into a black hole, etc.), something tells me that it won't be long until they decide to just off him for good.

Aaronardo 07-14-2016 09:12 AM

Nah. Splinter's gonna bite it again and we're all gonna see it coming when they bring him back.

neatoman 07-14-2016 10:45 AM

They don't have the balls to kill off any characters.

TurtleTitan97 07-14-2016 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1601721)
They don't have the balls to kill off any characters.

They killed off Zog though. And unless he's coming back anytime soon, Rat King is looking pretty dead at the moment.

Splinter the boss 07-14-2016 11:16 AM

No, I do not think they would try to kill off another character. I just don't see who would fit to be killed off.

The Happy One 07-14-2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97 (Post 1601723)
They killed off Zog though. And unless he's coming back anytime soon, Rat King is looking pretty dead at the moment.

True...but any major charcters...I'm not so sure.

They might pull of the whole IDW 44 thing, but I'm sure we'll see it coming episodes before- like a build up or something.

Or, since this show loves the element of surprise, we may not see it coming.

But, I doubt they'd keep it permanent. Maybe a few episodes, if not half the series.

Splinter the boss 07-14-2016 11:30 AM

This isn't going to sound well...but I somehow believe there is a minor chance that Zog might still be alive.
Seriously, the guy shows up for one or maybe two episodes(been a while since I rewatched episodes), then he's dead. How ridiculous!

GoldMutant 07-14-2016 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97 (Post 1601723)
They killed off Zog though.

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Originally Posted by Splinter the boss (Post 1601732)
This isn't going to sound well...but I somehow believe there is a minor chance that Zog might still be alive.
Seriously, the guy shows up for one or maybe two episodes(been a while since I rewatched episodes), then he's dead. How ridiculous!

Splinter, it is one episode he appears in, his own debut Dinosaurs Seen in Sewers! in terms of that. Zog's fate is death in TMNT lore; regardless, yes due to the time shift he's possibly alive. It's either Revenge of the Triceratons, The Ever-Burning Fire, or Earth's Last Stand that mentioned him being alive on his mission. He may be dead, but if the timeline is going back into business, he'll return. Otherwise, expect him to be dead.

Anyways, considering the series the only characters I can think of that can die are Shredder by a series finale possibly, Mutagen Man if Roger Craig Smith doesn't return, and Kirby if he's going to never be more than a scapegoat. Otherwise, I don't think they're going to kill off anymore characters at this time, especially if the human vs mutant arc is going to have many mutants, but if it wants to kill off characters for no reason, it could happen there. Either way, no I don't think killing off a character is worth the effort if they'll return regardless, Zog and Fugitoid the only exceptions unless something occurs.

retr0pia75 07-14-2016 01:18 PM

You know, speaking of Mutagen Man/Timothy...what the heck ever happened to him? Did the Turtles just forget about him or something?

victory_angel 07-14-2016 01:30 PM

Nick likes its dramatic endings with the season finales. So yes we are likely to see a character get seriously injured and put out of commission for a time.
However, I don't feel the person on the chopping block can't be Leo or Splinter again.
I know Leo is noble and sacrifices himself to save his family from danger. And Splinter has that vendetta with the Shredder.

Splinter and Leo have had their run of death and near death experiences and it's already become as pointless as a superhero funeral.


Though the series doesn't always have to resort to brutally maiming or killing its characters. For example, there are hints of there being a Dark April further on in the season or possibly next. Shredder feels that Karai has been taken from him by the Turtles and Splinter.

At this time as far as we can tell, Shredder assumes that April is just an insignificant girl who is being trained as a ninja for some reason. But the Shredder also chooses his hench men through how useful they are to him. So if he learns April is a Psychic, he could begin to see some use in her. And since he believes Karai has been taken from him, he may feel it's justifiable to take April from them.

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Originally Posted by retr0pia75 (Post 1601772)
You know, speaking of Mutagen Man/Timothy...what the heck ever happened to him? Did the Turtles just forget about him or something?


It's more like they've had other priorities that put Timmy on the back burner. The only legitimate time they've had to return him to human was during Lonely Mutation of Baxter Stockmen. After all Donnie had said he made two doses, one for Kirby, and one for Splinter. When offered the possibility of having his humanity restored Splinter just says "Save Kirby, and I'll think about it."

"I'll think about it." Is a passive agressive way of saying "No, I am not interested." in the Japanese language. And if Stockman hadn't interfeared they would have given the other dose to Mutagen Man by defalt.

But following Lonely Mutation it's been "We have retromutagen, but Karai needs it more. We'll save Timothy with the next batch." Or "We have retromutagen, but the people of the city need it more. We'll cure him with the next batch."

We know that super retromutagen that Mikey accidentally made could make retromutagen in seconds. But we don't know what retromutagen itself would be like in contact with regular mutagen and I wouldn't be suprised if it was a reaction that was similar to matter and antimatter coliding.

IndigoErth 07-14-2016 03:57 PM

If anyone... Shredder, once Nick is done with him. (Heck, they already killed the 'tongue' clone of him on that one mutant monster...)

Though Karai is a lot darker option. However, as long as they return to her story I think it's more likely that they'll probably eventually cure her (or at the very least cure her to the extent that she gets her brains back together, can control her mutation and be herself most of the time). And therein either be back with her real father or, since he may not want her having to live where they do, return to Japan to live with extended family for the remainder of her youth and leave the series.

Spoiler:
Then make a second series as a continuation where all the characters are older and Karai moves back to NYC as a young adult.

Splinter the boss 07-15-2016 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth (Post 1601849)
If anyone... Shredder, once Nick is done with him. (Heck, they already killed the 'tongue' clone of him on that one mutant monster...)

Though Karai is a lot darker option. However, as long as they return to her story I think it's more likely that they'll probably eventually cure her (or at the very least cure her to the extent that she gets her brains back together, can control her mutation and be herself most of the time). And therein either be back with her real father or, since he may not want her having to live where they do, return to Japan to live with extended family for the remainder of her youth and leave the series.

Spoiler:
Then make a second series as a continuation where all the characters are older and Karai moves back to NYC as a young adult.

It would be nice that way. It would be heartwarming when they would reunite in the second series and would fight crime as a team.

thundermaster612 07-15-2016 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Splinter the boss (Post 1602109)
It would be nice that way. It would be heartwarming when they would reunite in the second series and would fight crime as a team.

Lord Dregg's return? Anybody?

DevilSpooky 07-16-2016 02:33 AM

Season 5 will go all mystic right? I can see Karai dieing and the brothers fighting against the Shinigami to get her soul back. Splinter or April are good candidates as well, but killing off Splinter again would just seem desperate on their part. Or alternativelly I can see Shredder bitting the dust only to be revived by the Shinigami forcing the brothers to fight her so he can be put down for good.

TMNTInsighter 07-16-2016 06:20 AM

No I don't.

Etsyturtle2 07-16-2016 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TMNTInsighter (Post 1602456)
No I don't.

Dont what?

TMNTInsighter 07-16-2016 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Etsyturtle2 (Post 1602479)
Dont what?

I don't think they'll kill off another character...except maybe Shredder when we near the end. I'm not so presumptuous that because this series is willing to push the bar once in a while that I can expect another death--at least that of a good person outside Tang Shen really. After all, Batman TAS and Gargoyles (both of which I have every episode on DVD) had a dark edge to them, were ambitious series', and are still well regarded to this day but they hardly killed anyone (not even the Joker could kill his would be targets). They still had the presence of mind to remember their target audiences and this TMNT series has even tighter BS&P rules than those two series'.

victory_angel 07-16-2016 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by TMNTInsighter (Post 1602531)
I don't think they'll kill off another character...except maybe Shredder when we near the end. I'm not so presumptuous that because this series is willing to push the bar once in a while that I can expect another death--at least that of a good person outside Tang Shen really. After all, Batman TAS and Gargoyles (both of which I have every episode on DVD) had a dark edge to them, were ambitious series', and are still well regarded to this day but they hardly killed anyone (not even the Joker could kill his would be targets). They still had the presence of mind to remember their target audiences and this TMNT series has even tighter BS&P rules than those two series'.

I can't speak for BTA but in Gargoyles there were character deaths. But most often the character deaths were implied not really spoken of. Such as the Captain of the Guard and Haken the Viking falling off a cliff to certain doom.

The most adult episode of that show was the episode where Broadway was playing with Elisa's gun and it accidently goes off. That's the most powerful episode IMHO because it appropriately illustrated that firearms are not playthings, and people could seriously hurt as a result.

Vicky82 07-16-2016 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by victory_angel (Post 1602567)
I can't speak for BTA but in Gargoyles there were character deaths. But most often the character deaths were implied not really spoken of. Such as the Captain of the Guard and Haken the Viking falling off a cliff to certain doom.

The most adult episode of that show was the episode where Broadway was playing with Elisa's gun and it accidently goes off. That's the most powerful episode IMHO because it appropriately illustrated that firearms are not playthings, and people could seriously hurt as a result.

Yep Deadly Force, Elisa nearly dies and you actually see her go into cardiac arrest and then the doctors restart her heart.

In Hunter's Moon Angela is injured badly and stops breathing later but luckily Elisa uses CPR on her.

The Magus dies in the Avalon episodes. Also a lot of gargoyles get killed when they are stone and get smashed to rubble. In City of Stone, Demona turns the humans into stone and she smashes some of them.

Gargoyles had the Future Tense episode where most of the main cast dies, except Goliath who dreams this and Elisa who is actually Puck gives him the dream.


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