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CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 08-26-2016 12:11 PM

Gotham Showrunner is an Idiot?
 
http://screenrant.com/gotham-bruno-h...uperheroes-tv/

"I don’t think superheroes work very well on TV, probably because of the costume thing. … TV is about real people and faces, and not so much about magic and the supernatural things."

I find this incredibly hypocritical. I've made no bones about my disgust for this show. Maybe if he didn't want to tell a superhero story, he should try focusing on a grounded believable GCPD-focused story. But I guess that's too hard for him.

But hey, somebody tell The Flash, Legends of Tomorrow, Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and Supergirl that superheroes don't work very well on TV. :trolleye:

snake 08-26-2016 12:13 PM

Wow. An idiot for sure. The main problem is budget though. And for me, no show except maybe the flash really feels like an actual comic book.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 08-26-2016 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by snake (Post 1617372)
Wow. An idiot for sure. The main problem is budget though. And for me, no show except maybe the flash really feels like an actual comic book.

I don't like Supergirl myself, and I had serious issues with Legends of Tomorrow. But the characters are not the problem; the costumes and "real people and faces" are not the problem.

His points are absurd. And his show is absurd. Blaming "superheroes" for his supervillains-heavy Schumacher/Burton "Gorbatman" show reeks of desperation.

Andrew NDB 08-26-2016 01:47 PM

I have no idea who this guy is or what his show is about. I think all of Batman's villains becoming the villains while he's a 10 year old? And I think I read Harley's joining the show now? Dunno, it all sounds pretty ass to me. Do people actually dig it?

BubblyShell22 08-26-2016 01:51 PM

I liked the show in season one, but season two got out of control for me, so I gave up on it. But what he says is really stupid anyway. Superhero shows do work if done correctly and he's going about it the wrong way.

snake 08-26-2016 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1617393)
I have no idea who this guy is or what his show is about. I think all of Batman's villains becoming the villains while he's a 10 year old? And I think I read Harley's joining the show now? Dunno, it all sounds pretty ass to me. Do people actually dig it?

I watched the first 6 episodes or so. Didn't stick with me. I just want a new batman show.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 08-26-2016 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1617393)
I have no idea who this guy is or what his show is about. I think all of Batman's villains becoming the villains while he's a 10 year old? And I think I read Harley's joining the show now? Dunno, it all sounds pretty ass to me. Do people actually dig it?

The first few episodes had some promise with Gordon, Bullock, Fish Mooney, and Penguin. But it just kept getting weirder and weirder...

Think the bastard offspring of Schumacher and Burton, with every possible Batman enemy (Ivy, Riddler, Azrael, Order of Saint Dumas, Hugo Strange, Clayface, Hatter...) coming to fruition before Bruce even hits puberty.

It's astonishing how bad it is. Is this what Superman fans had to deal with when Smallville was a thing?

Candy Kappa 08-26-2016 02:08 PM

The episodes I've seen of season 1 have been pretty fun. Gordon dealing with the corruption in the GCPD, Penguin's rise in power. And the best part, a rough and tumble Alfred.

snake 08-26-2016 02:12 PM

Did they kill off Fish Mooney yet? She was kind of interesting

plastroncafe 08-26-2016 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1617401)
It's astonishing how bad it is. Is this what Superman fans had to deal with when Smallville was a thing?

Maybe towards the middle of its run, but I really dug the first few seasons of Smallville, and heard that the final few were excellent as well.

Of course....I'm not a Supes fan so mileage is certainly going to vary on this one.

I haven't seen any of Gotham, since it wasn't Gotham Central I never felt a need to watch.

snake 08-26-2016 02:16 PM

Big superman fan. Not a fan of Smallvile at all. I guess it's entertaining if you're into drama but if you're looking for a Superman show, you're in the wrong place. My ideal show would be Superman, Lois, and Jonathan living as a family, basically adapting the current rebirth story into a tv show.

Powder 08-26-2016 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1617393)
Do people actually dig it?

Some people use poop as a lubricant, you can't judge the merit of something by whether or not people dig it. :tlol:

TheSkeletonMan939 08-26-2016 02:17 PM

I can't believe people care one iota about Gotham. The writing is awful. I honestly don't understand why someone would be satisfied in writing something so stupid. You have a chance to get your script to be seen on screen by millions, and you write something as stupid as Gotham.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 08-26-2016 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939 (Post 1617427)
I can't believe people care one iota about Gotham. The writing is awful. I honestly don't understand why someone would be satisfied in writing something so stupid. You have a chance to get your script to be seen on screen by millions, and you write something as stupid as Gotham.

I can't believe you put so much time and effort into a "Not-Batman" Batman show. Just spend the extra money, kiss the asses you gotta kiss, and make a damn Batman show.

Go to that much trouble, do it right.

TheSkeletonMan939 08-26-2016 02:22 PM

The problem with making a Batman show is that it conflicts with their DC cinematic universe. You have to appeal to the lowest common denominator with these things.
People can't be trusted to understand that there's 'movie Batman' and 'TV Batman'.

Candy Kappa 08-26-2016 02:25 PM

But there's a TV Superman and a Movie Superman...

TheSkeletonMan939 08-26-2016 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1617439)
But there's a TV Superman and a Movie Superman...

Only because the CWVerse is enough of its own thing (they have like five shows now, right?) that they're slowly allowing elements from the films to bleed into that.
With a standalone show like Gotham, I don't think they're confident enough to do that. Partly because they might be worried a TV Batman could outclass the movie Batman. :lol:

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 08-26-2016 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa (Post 1617439)
But there's a TV Superman and a Movie Superman...

So let's cancel Gotham and start a new Batman show! I wish...

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939 (Post 1617434)
The problem with making a Batman show is that it conflicts with their DC cinematic universe. You have to appeal to the lowest common denominator with these things.
People can't be trusted to understand that there's 'movie Batman' and 'TV Batman'.

I've never bought that argument. Do even executives believe that anymore? I mean, it must be the reason but it makes no sense.

If DC thought for a minute they could do a Batman live-action show, they'd do a Batman live-action show. It's called printing money. Instead of having Benjamin Franklin on the bills, they have Bruce Wayne. :tlol:

snake 08-26-2016 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939 (Post 1617434)
The problem with making a Batman show is that it conflicts with their DC cinematic universe. You have to appeal to the lowest common denominator with these things.
People can't be trusted to understand that there's 'movie Batman' and 'TV Batman'.

Nah. The types of people that would ask that question wouldn't even watch the TV show and the ones that do can understand the concept of movies and tv. People don't get confused with all the TMNT variations.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 08-26-2016 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSkeletonMan939 (Post 1617444)
Only because the CWVerse is enough of its own thing (they have like five shows now, right?) that they're slowly allowing elements from the films to bleed into that.
With a standalone show like Gotham, I don't think they're confident enough to do that. Partly because they might be worried a TV Batman could outclass the movie Batman. :lol:

CW is up to four in active development (Flash, Arrow, Legends of Tomorrow, Supergirl) with a fifth (Constantine) retroactively brought into continuity.

I don't think they need to worry about conflicting Batmans. They're going forward with competing Flashes and Supermen now.

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Originally Posted by snake (Post 1617451)
Nah. The types of people that would ask that question wouldn't even watch the TV show and the ones that do can understand the concept of movies and tv. People don't get confused with all the TMNT variations.

Yeah, agreed. I think this is an argument only the executives (at the most) believe.


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