Kentucky school shooting: 2 students killed and 17 others injured
 

Another school shooting in USA:

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/23/u...ing/index.html

Man, why does this keep happening?

No one really knows.

Because it's hard to get access to good mental healthcare and it's easy to get guns

Because scumbags take those "gun free zone" signs as a challenge.... And Teachers & other staff cannot be armed... or properly teach... or bitch slap kids when they get out of line.

Criminals think twice about attacking anyone who can fight back. Easy targets are easy after all.

I take it back, apparently we do know why these things happen.

Man, the truth is way more victim-blaming that I'm strictly comfortable with.

oh conservacapz don't you ever change. Ya lets let teachers hit kids and have guns Let me know when your NRA check comes in the mail

https://i.imgur.com/OTshcdf.jpg

Because, ultimately it is what it is?
Not in a sense, that teachers should have guns - this is idiotic, but in a sense that those shooter are psychopathic losers, who lose their minds, blame and kill everyone for their troubles, because, their mental state is so fragile they can not face the fact that a lot of their problems are of their own doing and they should improve themselves or seek help instead of killing others for their problems.

As someone who has younger siblings in public school, it is terrifying to know this could happen literally anywhere at any time.

I don't know that a lot/any of these shooters are guys that shopped around for a good psychiatrist or mental health doctor and then instead went out to buy guns to murder a bunch of people because their health insurance wouldn't cover it.

If I were still studying HS I'd be somewhat alarmed, I remember when I was in Jr. High and HS, we used to have "intruder" drills we all f-cked around during them since they seemed like something we'd never do, but every time these things are happening closer and closer to where I went to school. I'd be even more alarmed if my future kids were in HS right now.

All it takes is one dumb person and access to guns. The problem is I knew plenty of people like that when I was in HS. Hell a recent graduate from my city was recently arrested for animal abuse which 4chan helped track down funny enough. There were plenty of people like him and all it takes is one bad day for them to say "**** it".

Same with teachers having sex with students, the fantasy of all HS boys but I've now read stories of teachers from schools that I went to happening.


I remember as an angsty teen I wanted this t-shirt:
https://i.imgur.com/tPgtOjN.gif

Back then I don't think it was that much in bad taste, but I definitely do now, you can probably fill up the tour dates with only one year while this one needed almost a decade, Scary.

This Onion article couldn't be more true:
‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

It wouldn’t hurt to have smaller class sizes and better training for teachers. So teachers can have daily interactions with students not just lecture. Get to know the students personalities and life struggles. Be trained to know the signs of wanting to hurt others. Know when a professional referral is necessary and not let at risk kids go unnoticed.

Unfortunately that sort of thing doesn't immediately help kids pass standardized tests, and that's kind of where public education is focused right now.

Well that, and depending on where you happen to be, keeping the lights on.

Staying a float, money and test scores are priority in other words. Safety is a far far away dream. Sadly it would have to be like many schools a day being shot up for something to radically change.

I say mandatory firearm training for teachers (then they need to go to the range at least once a quarter), pistol kept in a secure lockbox in the classroom accessible only to the teacher (whether it's a key, combination, biometrics, whatever is most secure and makes the most sense). It's not a perfect solution but it would save a lot of lives.

As is? The moment a gunman enters a school, they can basically walk around, go wherever, shoot whoever for at least a good 20-30 minutes or more completely uncontested before there is even the slightest chance of any police arriving at the scene to assess the situation and intervene. Those aren't good odds and that's not a good system. That's a "fish in a barrel" system.

That's absolutely crazy but I'll stop right there.

Then you would have more teachers gone wild news stories. Teachers shooting up students. Or shootings happening when substitutes are on duty. It’s already to late as soon as a gunman steps on school property the damage is done.

Why on earth would you think that?

The odds are pretty good the other 10+ teachers in the school are not substitute teachers on the same day. And by this example, why not demand the substitute teachers get the same training? You want to substitute teach in X District, you better be hitting the range, etc..

That's a horrible, defeatist attitude. I mean, it's absolutely the case right now but surely we can do better that just having everyone hide under desks throwing "thoughts and prayers" at the shooter(s) marching down the hallways.

You would still have an old west shootout at school traumatizing many people. Early prevention is best. It’s about saving all the lives not just a few.

At least guards, metal detectors and bullet proof glass. Don’t banks have those things? Money in a vault is better protected than human life.

You'd rather these many people be potentially dead than potentially traumatized? If you're a student in the middle of a school shooting, chances are you're probably going to be traumatized anyway. And getting teachers proper firearm safety and training would avoid an "old west shootout."

Of course. But failing that... just lay down and cross your fingers? Really?

More effective to put a fence before the cliff, than keep an ambulance at the bottom of it.