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Prowler 01-16-2019 12:52 PM

Your honest thoughts on David Wise
 
Be 100% honest.

I'm thankful to him for writing some of the best FW series episodes, even though he wasn't the one who wrote the Shredderville episode! But I also think he has a huge ego and tries to claim too much credit for "creating" the Turtles as we know them today, which leads me to think he's a bit arrogant.

What about you?

neatoman 01-16-2019 01:10 PM

I have a very negative opinion of him.

It would be one thing if he was simply a terrible writer, then I wouldn't really care about him beyond thinking his work sucks. What makes it worse is that he's a bad writer who thinks rewriting (already sold) scripts to fit unrelated shows is perfectly fine because his audience are children. As a student of creative writing and drama, that really shows how little passion and respect he has for the craft and the audience. What's even worse than that is his willingness to steal credit and conjure up a narrative in which he's essentially the creator of TMNT, despite that being objectively wrong and there being conflicting stories about how the show's alterations came about.

I guess the only positive thing I can say about him is that the episodes of Fred Wolf he wrote are the least boring, even if they are complete nonsense taken from other shows.

Wesley 01-16-2019 01:10 PM

I don’t know much about him tbh. I guess I neither like nor dislike him. I enjoyed most of the episodes he wrote for the Fred Wolf series. Him recycling scripts doesn’t bother me, as I never watched any other shows he was involved with. He does come off as a bit arrogant in interviews alright, though maybe he’s just being sarcastic.

Prowler 01-16-2019 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1789604)
I have a very negative opinion of him.

It would be one thing if he was simply a terrible writer, then I wouldn't really care about him beyond thinking his work sucks. What makes it worse is that he's a bad writer who thinks rewriting (already sold) scripts to fit unrelated shows is perfectly fine because his audience are children. As a student of creative writing and drama, that really shows how little passion and respect he has for the craft and the audience. What's even worse than that is his willingness to steal credit and conjure up a narrative in which he's essentially the creator of TMNT, despite that being objectively wrong and there being conflicting stories about how the show's alterations came about.

I guess the only positive thing I can say about him is that the episodes of Fred Wolf he wrote are the least boring, even if they are complete nonsense taken from other shows.

He sure loved to recycle scripts. I can see why that would annoy people who watched other shows written by him.

Andrew NDB 01-16-2019 01:24 PM

He's fairly pompous, responsible for creating and popularizing pretty much all the things I don't like in TMNT (which isn't necessarily a slight against him... if he didn't, someone else would've) and getting butt-hurt when he doesn't get enough credit.

Also, a pretty staunch liberal.

FredWolfLeonardo 01-16-2019 01:25 PM

I don't care about him personally at all.

Enjoy the episodes he wrote though immensely, and I thank him for helping make the 80s tmnt show into the show I love today.

Prowler 01-16-2019 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1789610)
He's fairly pompous, responsible for creating and popularizing pretty much all the things I don't like in TMNT (which isn't necessarily a slight against him... if he didn't, someone else would've) and getting butt-hurt when he doesn't get enough credit.

Also, a pretty staunch liberal.

How do you even know that LMAO. I've literally only read things he said in relation TMNT. Have no idea what he thinks about other issues, including that big one, nor do I care much tbh.

Andrew NDB 01-16-2019 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1789612)
How do you even know that LMAO. I've literally only read things he said in relation TMNT. Have no idea what he thinks about other issues, including that big one, nor do I care much tbh.

He's one of those people who enjoys posting daily "Look at the awful thing Trump just said today!"/"ANY DAY NOW!" kind of stuff over social media.

Prowler 01-16-2019 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1789615)
He's one of those people who enjoys posting daily "Look at the awful thing Trump just said today!"/"ANY DAY NOW!" kind of stuff over social media.

Tbh that kinda stuff makes you look cool nowadays, so I'm not surprised that celebrities and other people with some notoriety might do that just to get a few more fans.

neatoman 01-16-2019 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1789615)
He's one of those people who enjoys posting daily "Look at the awful thing Trump just said today!"/"ANY DAY NOW!" kind of stuff over social media.

So... Like MovieBob except he used to have an audience of children who only payed attention because they didn't yet understand his content was crap?

... Scratch that, he's exactly like MovieBob...

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Originally Posted by Prowler (Post 1789616)
Tbh that kinda stuff makes you look cool nowadays, so I'm not surprised that celebrities and other people with some notoriety might do that just to get a few more fans.

Not a Trump supporter by any means, but the criticism of Trump and the effort to "take him down" is rather tired. Elections are starting up next year, so he could very well not be the president around this time in two years.

IndigoErth 01-16-2019 02:03 PM

Then why can't it be left that he's the easily butthurt, egotistical type, rather than throwing the word "liberal" in there as if it's supposed to explain everything. (edit: He sound more like someone who grew up a spoiled brat.)


Personally, I never knew much about him either as I don't tend to look all that far into the people behind this stuff, but going by what neatoman said... wow. Never fails to amaze me how anyone can have zero conscious. (Honestly, based on some similar personality traits you'd think he'd LIKE Trump.)

Andrew NDB 01-16-2019 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1789618)
Not a Trump supporter by any means, but the criticism of Trump and the effort to "take him down" is rather tired. Elections are starting up next year, so he could very well not be the president around this time in two years.

It's true. Elizabeth Warren could win. :lol:

Prowler 01-16-2019 02:10 PM

Well, how did a thread about David Wise turn into politics? best we go back to David Wise, the man himself, and his contributions, whether good or bad, to TMNT. ;)

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 01-16-2019 03:38 PM

Jephael
 
Back to David Wise, Jephael interviewed him on 10 December 2010 and published it on his fansite.

http://www.jephael.com/cartoon.shtml

MikeandRaph87 01-16-2019 04:16 PM

I don't know much about him as a person, but I do know he likes to take credit for TMNT's success. Yet Eastman and Laird did come up with concepts that are introduced in the 1987 cartoon like henchmutants Bebop and Rocksteady and robotic foot soldiers yet what was David Wise original? Dimension X, rock soldiers maybe the Turtle Van? I love what he did as a great innovator no matter what he did create or was simply given. He made gold out of it.

Andrew NDB 01-16-2019 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan (Post 1789636)
Back to David Wise, Jephael interviewed him on 10 December 2010 and published it on his fansite.

http://www.jephael.com/cartoon.shtml

We interviewed him in 2013 for the Shellshocked Podcast. Here.

Shinigami 01-17-2019 06:24 AM

I sort of cringe when I hear him talk. He gives himself a lot of credit for stuff he probably didn’t decide on or make up.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 01-17-2019 03:53 PM

It must have been embarassing for him to hear the fans remember so much more about his own works than he does.

Egon1982 01-24-2019 11:08 PM

And what do you think of the Batman TAS episodes he wrote?

Leo656 01-24-2019 11:28 PM

I've hardly ever thought about him much at all, but I've rolled my eyes at a few interviews I've read. More recently I've seen him say some downright laughable things on Andrew's FB page, which makes me very glad I've never spoken to him myself. :lol:

To be perfectly honest he seems like a giant tw*t. F*ck 'em.


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