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Andrew NDB 06-11-2019 02:05 PM

The X-Men MCU reboot thread
 
https://cdn-static.denofgeek.com/sit...?itok=C5Dluauv

What would you like to see and/or how do you realistically see Disney/Marvel executing it?

Also, Marvel Studios' Executive VP of Production Victoria Alonso seems to think the name "X-Men" itself is outdated:

https://www.newsarama.com/45468-marv...-outdated.html

Probably not a great sign, right?

oldmanwinters 06-11-2019 02:12 PM

Ah, X-Myn, here we go! :tlol:

And that misogynist Magneto with his "Brotherhood of Evil Mutants."

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 06-11-2019 02:16 PM

I think we can take some lessons from seeing how Marvel has adapted Spiderman.

If we do see familiar characters, I think it's likely they'll be raceswapped, just like MJ was. (Say, a black Scott Summers or a Hispanic Angel)

We can expect to NOT see Magneto as the main villain for awhile. I would assume we'll see other villains given the space to shine... like perhaps the Hellfire Club, Bolivar Trask, or Mister Sinister.

I'm not sure whether or not Scarlet Witch will have Magneto be retroactively revealed as her hitherto unknown father. I'd say even money on that, with a personal leaning towards "no."

I think we can also expect to maybe not even see Charles Xavier for awhile, similar to how Uncle Ben has been completely handwaved aside. Instead, the school is named after Xavier but run by, say, Beast, or Jean, or even Scott or Storm.

Zero emphasis on the Phoenix Force. Like, never even touched on.

And I predict Kitty Pryde, Storm, Rogue, Angel, and Iceman to be key players. They're big players in the comics, but have had extremely limited use in the Fox movies (or at least, it's been a long time since they were a part of the Fox movies).

oldmanwinters 06-11-2019 02:21 PM

Bit of an aside, but I would have loved the chance to experience Sega's cancelled 16-bit X-Men game:


Adding a flying mechanic to the beat 'em up engine of Sega's Adventures of Batman & Robin could have made for something special, if done well.
http://www.sega-16.com/2013/12/interview-john-pedigo/

snake 06-11-2019 02:35 PM

The name X-Men will never be changed.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 06-11-2019 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by snake (Post 1809282)
The name X-Men will never be changed.

It SHOULD be changed. When's the last time any of the MEN saved anyone?

(Shut up, Quicksilver, not you. And go away, Kurt, you don't count either.)

That was the cringiest part of the entire movie. :tlol:

Sumac 06-11-2019 02:44 PM

X-Biological species of non-defined sex and gender.
That is the progress!! This will solve all problems in the world!!

ZariusTwo 06-11-2019 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1809283)
It SHOULD be changed. When's the last time any of the MEN saved anyone?

(Shut up, Quicksilver, not you. And go away, Kurt, you don't count either.)

That was the cringiest part of the entire movie. :tlol:

At least she got what was coming to her for it...rare in these type of movies

oldmanwinters 06-11-2019 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1809283)
It SHOULD be changed. When's the last time any of the MEN saved anyone?

(Shut up, Quicksilver, not you. And go away, Kurt, you don't count either.)

That was the cringiest part of the entire movie. :tlol:

I had grown to like J.Lawrence's take on Mystique, but after that line I didn't mind it so much when.... that thing happened at Jean's old house.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 06-11-2019 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 1809286)
I had grown to like J.Lawrence's take on Mystique, but after that line I didn't mind it so much when.... that thing happened at Jean's old house.

I liked her a lot in the first two First Class series of X-Men movies. Since then, it's been "eh".

neatoman 06-11-2019 04:12 PM

A couple of things:
  1. First off, Victoria Alonso is just talking out her ass. "Durr, let's change the title of one of the most popular superhero franchises after 56+ years, all because of a contrived interpretation of it that nobody actually has!". Nobody actually thinks it'll happen.
  2. Anyway, given that the MCU is lighter/goofier than the last X-Men series, it might be a good idea to nosedive directly into the weirder stuff so the first movie don't feel out of place, or so that the weirder don't feel out of place later on. You know, the Savage Land, Alternate timelines, Asteroid X, Genosha, the Brood, etc.
  3. Wolverine probably shouldn't be as much of a focus as he was in the previous movies. He's a popular character and should have a presence but he shouldn't be the main character, last time he ended up stealing the spotlight in 4 out of 7 main installments and got 3 solo spin-offs.
  4. Regardless of wheter or not they were botched, it's probably a good idea to avoid some of the stories that were already adapted. So no Origin, No Weapon X, no Claremont Wolvie solo, no Old Man Logan, no GLMK, no Dark Phoenix, no Mutant Cure, no coming of Apocalypse. The only one I think they could try again is the formation of the X-Men, as First Class really had nothing to do with how the X-Men were actually founded in the comics. (OK I know none of the movies in either the X-men series or the MCU are faithful adaptations by any reasonable standard, to say Days of Future Past and Civil War are anything but loose is absurd, just speaking in relative terms here).
  5. Seeing how 4 out of the 8 stories the previous movies were "based" on were Wolverine centric, it should be too hard to avoid treading old ground by simply not making Wolverine solo movies. Some stories I might suggest instead are the actual origin story, The introduction of Sauron, Second Genesis, House of M (but in a weird reverse to satisfy the question of where the mutants came from).
  6. If you could tell by my last pic there, Magneto should just be Wanda's father. It works for drama, it's what basically all the other versions have gone with and what they're doing now in the comics is a worse alternative.

Andrew NDB 06-11-2019 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1809289)
[*]Regardless of wheter or not they were botched, it's probably a good idea to avoid some of the stories that were already adapted. So no Origin, No Weapon X, no Claremont Wolvie solo, no Old Man Logan, no GLMK, no Dark Phoenix, no Mutant Cure, no coming of Apocalypse.

I don't know, the thought of a proper Thanos-like CGI Apocalypse fully realized... that doesn't sound like a bad idea to me.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 06-11-2019 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1809291)
I don't know, the thought of a proper Thanos-like CGI Apocalypse fully realized... that doesn't sound like a bad idea to me.

Agreed. Apocalypse (character and movie both) were SO forgettable, I think the MCU should do a new Age of Apocalypse movie, with actual intimidating fvck-you-up Horsemen and everything.

Andrew NDB 06-11-2019 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy (Post 1809292)
Agreed. Apocalypse (character and movie both) were SO forgettable, I think the MCU should do a new Age of Apocalypse movie, with actual intimidating fvck-you-up Horsemen and everything.

They could build a whole Phase around the Age of Apocalypse, really. But certainly build up to it.

TigerClaw 06-11-2019 04:57 PM

I think this thread will get to a couple of pages. Because it will be a couple of years before we get an MCU X-Men Movie.

CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy 06-11-2019 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1809293)
They could build a whole Phase around the Age of Apocalypse, really. But certainly build up to it.

It'd be a good way to introduce Wolverine, too. Here's this feral bloodthirsty violent mutant as one of the Four Horsemen, and after defeating Apocalypse, somebody decides to try to tame him and bring him over to the side of heroes.


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