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neatoman 04-11-2020 02:04 PM

A return to the Turtles' alcohol consumption?
 
Just a thought, would that be a good idea? I always thought the Pizza obsession was meant to be a subsitute for it (something people crave but is obviously bad for you) since the depiction of inibriation is kind of a no-no in kids' cartoons. I was just thinking that it might be time to drop the childish substitute. Obviously they can't drink beer in the cartoons, but probably could in comics, movies and games.
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frank_one 04-11-2020 02:11 PM

Pizza is not bad for your body if made with healthy ingredients, unless you eat it everyday of your life, but the same can be said of every kind of food.

Shinigami 04-11-2020 02:16 PM

I don’t remember them drinking a ton of beer in Mirage. Just seeing them holding a can every once in awhile. I always read Casey as the drunk especially in later Mirage issues.

MikeandRaph87 04-11-2020 02:18 PM

They are teenagers and under the law it is illegal for anyone under 21 to consume alcohol. Even if legal after 21 it is still morally questionable and the TMNT are ones to follow morals. If they must act they must not be intoxicated so they should not imbibe if they could be dealing with effects of drinking if one a mission that comes up at any time. Some heroes especially those popular with adolescence do not partake in such things (Batman, Spider-Man, Superman)and it has become a part of their character while others it is expected of and some times used to teach against it like with Iron Man. They are also beloved heroes for all ages and like you said we don't want to have the wrong message sent even if they are turtles. I would rather the Turtles abstain from drinking alcohol. It may have been something they did when they were a parody of 80s' comics aimed at adults, but Ninja Turtles is a franchise now and it is best left to the very early days. Other characters can be depicted as periodic drinkers like Casey Jones on an emotional roller coaster if he is of age or a villain however.

FredWolfLeonardo 04-11-2020 02:24 PM

Atleast pizza would help them build muscle and explain their physiques while alcohol can't.

Andrew NDB 04-11-2020 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 (Post 1842568)
They are teenagers and under the law it is illegal for anyone under 21 to consume alcohol.

It's also illegal to murder people and vigilante, and steal electricity from the city... but they do all of those things. Let them drink their damn beer. Lose the pizza.

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It may have been something they did when they were a parody of 80s' comics
It was never that, as both Peter and Kevin confirmed on separate occasions.

IndigoErth 04-11-2020 02:39 PM

I wouldn't care if it was in more mature material, though shoehorned in and too much just for the sake of it would be kinda lame. At least let the frequency, amount, and drink of choice make sense for each of them.

Nothing wrong with a little pizza, pizza is delicious and an inexpensive meal for a family of income-lacking mutants, but it doesn't always need to be a constant presence either.

Jazzfox 04-11-2020 03:18 PM

D= Sad to say, but I just can't imagine the turtles without them sharing a slice together sometime

When it comes to vices, Iunno, I could see where you could get swapping pizza for beer as a way to be more child friendly, but there's something very universal I get to the pizza love, not to mention just the idea it's something that they can all share together

Yeah, it's played a lot for laughs - Power Rangers/Turtles takes the cake for most outlandish Mikey pizza toppings, lol - and VGCats and plenty other places point out just what would happen on a pizza rich diet, but, I can stretch my disbelief there maybe

Heck, who knows how many calories a giant mutant turtle can burn through in a day, especially one who head dives across buildings every night and undergoes some fairly strict martial arts training

Overall, I don't know if I'd shout from the rooftops if the turtles shared a six pack, but I know I'd be all the sadder if it was outright taking away their pizzas, lol

Galactus 04-12-2020 04:52 AM

There's only a handful on times in Mirage Vol.1 that the turtles have been shown drinking alchohol and only a few other times in every other version that followed. I think it's somewhat overstated by fans that the comic turtles are way into beer.

I think it's reaching to think that the pizza obsession from the cartoon was meant to be a replacement for it. Clearly the Mirage turtles were never obsessed with beer.

Still I'd have no issue with say the IDW series being shown to drink beer or other alcoholic drinks. After all teenagers do sneak drink liquor so why not. The only time I've ever had an issue with it was in the Image series when Don makes a reference to drinking beer while flying the air car. The idea of the turtles drinking and driving is bad enough but Don doing that? I just don't see it but other than that have at it.

Wildcat 04-12-2020 06:12 AM

No.

This reminds ALF had to stop drinking beer for basically the same reason. A family friendly character that appealed to kids couldn’t be drinking alcohol even though he was an adult. I think he only has one in the first episode if I remember correctly.

Anyway it just doesn’t make sense for the turtles. They’re teenagers (and I know they drink in real life) but the bigger thing is it goes against being able to fight and keep a clear head.

I don’t have a problem with characters drinking if it fits. Alcohol is a huge part of the Simpsons but it’s mostly done for comedy. Although you would have thought they would change it similar to Alf once the show became really popular.

I consider The Simpsons family friendly even though there’s adult subjects going on. It doesn’t go over the top. It keeps things in a lighthearted or silly tone.

Original TMNT Cartoon Fan 04-12-2020 07:47 AM

Would they even be able to function as ninjas with a high-level of alcohol consumption? (high-level pizza consumption is an easier suspension of disbelief)

Voltron 04-12-2020 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan (Post 1842611)
Would they even be able to function as ninjas with a high-level of alcohol consumption? (high-level pizza consumption is an easier suspension of disbelief)

I can tell you from experience that my karate abilities sky-rocket after like, a liter of rum.

In all seriousness, how would this serve a story? Cartoon Fan brings up a good point in that the abilities would suffer under inebriation. Other than being edgy, is there a reason for them to pound a few? I could see if they were hanging out at the farm house or something . . .

neatoman 04-12-2020 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat (Post 1842599)
No.

This reminds ALF had to stop drinking beer for basically the same reason. A family friendly character that appealed to kids couldn’t be drinking alcohol even though he was an adult. I think he only has one in the first episode if I remember correctly.

Anyway it just doesn’t make sense for the turtles. They’re teenagers (and I know they drink in real life) but the bigger thing is it goes against being able to fight and keep a clear head.

I don’t have a problem with characters drinking if it fits. Alcohol is a huge part of the Simpsons but it’s mostly done for comedy. Although you would have thought they would change it similar to Alf once the show became really popular.

I consider The Simpsons family friendly even though there’s adult subjects going on. It doesn’t go over the top. It keeps things in a lighthearted or silly tone.

The "family friendly" bit would only apply to the stuff explicitly marketed to children though... And what if the beer was non-alcoholic in those?

FredWolfLeonardo 04-12-2020 09:46 AM


frank_one 04-12-2020 01:46 PM

They are monsters living in the sewer, I don't mind if they drink or if they kill people in the streets. They are no heroes, just beasts.

I Crave Pizza No More 04-12-2020 02:13 PM

Doesn't ET get blitzed? It was a different era, that's for sure!

neatoman 04-12-2020 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by I Crave Pizza No More (Post 1842648)
Doesn't ET get blitzed? It was a different era, that's for sure!

Oh yeah... And the kid gets drunk too because of the psychic link.

oldmanwinters 04-12-2020 06:12 PM

When the Turtles bunk at April's apartment in Volume 1, issue 3, April offers them some beer... only to discover they are already asleep. :tlol:

Wildcat 04-12-2020 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1842627)
The "family friendly" bit would only apply to the stuff explicitly marketed to children though... And what if the beer was non-alcoholic in those?

But people drink to get buzzed or drunk. Plus they’d have to specify the beer is non-alcoholic in every episode or comic issue. It’s pointless.

Leo656 04-13-2020 04:39 PM

I love the people who are like, "They wouldn't do that! They're TEENAGERS!" :lol:

Your average teenager drinks, and to excess, FAR more often than the "average" adult does (although the adults who DO binge kinda wreck the curve). Specifically because teenagers have poor impulse control and get off on doing stuff they're not supposed to do. Speaking for myself, I got blackout-drunk way more often before I was 18 than I ever have since.

Like no, I don't know if it would serve any real purpose, but c'mon. "They're teenagers! They have hearty moral fiber!" :lol: That's you, the viewer, projecting traits onto the characters.

I do kinda think FW TMNT would eschew alcohol for those reasons, but... well, let's be honest, those guys were pussies. :lol: :trazz:


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