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What should the Classic FW 87 88 OT be called?
Online for the most part it was called the OT for "old toon" or "original toon" and the new show 2003 was called the NT for "new toon" but it was also often called 2k3. Of course eventually NT stopped being used since it wasn't new and it was just called 2k3.
People no longer use OT though, it seems very rare and mostly only older issues. I see some people calling it FW for fred wolf, others use 87 or 88, which is a mess some people count the miniseries but others use 88 including the movie Turtles Forever. Can we reach on a consensus of what the classic cartoon should be called? Most other shows/movies go by their year date so perhaps that but should it be 88 or 87? |
Yeah. Just call it TMNT 88 or TMNT 80's. After all, we call the other 2 TMNT 2K3 and TMNT 2012. Rise is dif cause they had a whole new name for the show.
So I'll agree with TMNT 88. |
It depends on which version of Fred Wolf TMNT you are discussing. The miniseries was the best out of all of them, but most people are thinking of the syndicated series (ran from ‘88 to ‘89) when they bring up the original toon. The ‘88 series ends with The Big Blow Out. It does not extend to Turtles Forever. Turtles Forever is a standalone movie. The 1990 to 1996 CBS episodes are not part of the ‘88 series either. I’m not sure where people got the idea to combine the miniseries with the syndicated series, CBS SATAM series, and Turtles Forever from. I think they’re looking at how the main characters, locations, and synopsis is the same.
I’m voting for ‘88 because those are the stories most people are familiar with. Every ‘89 basic assortment action figure was introduced in the ‘88 syndicated series. Don’t get me wrong, the miniseries was the greatest children’s programming to come out of the late 1980s. The miniseries cannot be glued to the ‘88 series or 1990 series. The miniseries is a 5 parter and that’s it. Lion’s Gate was incorrect in saying it was season 1 of “the whole Fred Wolf original cartoon”. So, it’s ‘88 for me. Quote:
It can be divided like this: Miniseries = Generation XY culture ‘88 Syndicated Series = Generation XY culture 1990 CBS Saturday Morning = Generation Y culture |
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I call it TMNT (1987) outside and within this forum. Sometimes people offline refer to it as the original cartoon, but I never heard anyone refer to it as the Fred Wolf cartoon outside of this website. Its the best there was, the best there is, and the best there will be.
Its the one that has staying power in the minds of people for better or worse. |
LOL @ these replies.
People, it's basically just called "the original TMNT cartoon" to most of the general public or casuals. I've never seen anyone call it "the '87 series" seriously where is that coming from? |
FW or Fred Wolf. There are a number of reasons to do so:
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I simply refer to it as "The classic TMNT cartoon", or the "classic toon" with people who know what I'm talking about.
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In real life I've only ever heard people call it "The old show" or "the first show" or "The one from the 80s." Nobody remembers the year it came out and nobody knows what "Fred Wolf" is.
Quite literally, it's most often called "The old one, you know, the one from the '80s" but that is rather unwieldy. In rarer cases a person will tack "You know, before they got stupid with it" onto the end of that for further clarification. But yeah, that's how most people refer to it. ------------------- Unrelated, but you'd think after 20 f*cking years on this forum people would remember not to put 8 and ) next to each other. Duh. |
I almost always call it the OT or 1987.
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Most fans look at “the start date for the whole series”, but I know both the regular series and CBS SATAM series were promoted quite often in the very late 80s and very early 90s. Those animated TV programs are separate entities from the miniseries.
There were cards featuring scenes from the miniseries, but all of merchandise for the Fred Wolf turtles came out during the time of the syndicated series and CBS SATAM series (1989 to 1991). The only non-Playmates Toys items released during the miniseries school year (1987 to 1988 ) was the Roseart Pizza Power Game and puzzles. The syndicated series from 1988 was the most popular out of the miniseries, regular weekday show, and CBS SATAM series, so I voted for 1988. |
“The 80s/90s TMNT cartoon.” I call it the 90s TMNT cartoon outside this forum, though, as the people I know who watched it back in the day grew up in the 90s like me.
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I think some shell-heads group the ‘87 miniseries, ‘88 regular weekday series, and 1990 CBS series together because the USA Cartoon Express aired them all back to back.
The miniseries is darker than the regular weekday series and CBS toon. The turtles still punch and sometimes take out their weapons (including nunchucks) in the regular syndicated series. The CBS cartoon is brighter than both the miniseries and weekday series because it was a Saturday morning show. None of the shows are the same despite the main characters, location, and lingo used on the programs. |
I think 87 works best because its consistent with how all the other cartoons without a special title are commonly referred to as.
Tmnt 1987, 2003 and 2012. |
I generally refer to it as the '87 series. In real life, I'd refer to it as the 80s series.
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Would you group Rise Of The TMNT with the 2012 series since they were both on Nickelodeon? Back to the Sewer and Fast Forward were not part of the 2003 series. There isn’t a 1987 series. 1987 was the year of the miniseries. The ‘88 series was even listed on the back of the Classic Collection figures. It’s as follows: 1987 - Miniseries 1988 - Weekday syndicated series 1990 - CBS Saturday morning series |
The 1987 series might have been divided into different syndications or whatever, but it was still the same continuity from the 1st to the 193rd episode.
And Fast Forward and Back to the Sewers are absolutely canon to the 2003 series, tonally jarring as they may be. |
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Seasons 2 onwards fleshed out the character's personalities more (especially the villains), the comedy got better and we still got some decent action here and there. And for those people who really like season's 1 more action oriented style, season 7 comes quite close to emulating that. |
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