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CyberCubed 06-17-2021 09:44 PM

Plot hole in Cinderella
 
After the clock hits midnight as we know the Fairy Godmother's power wears off, and all the changes she made to Cinderella turn back to normal. Her dress turns bag to rags, the wagon turns back to a giant pumpkin, and the animals turn back to normal small animals.

However the glass slippers were created by the Fairy Godmother as well, and as we know she loses one behind as she's running away that the prince picks up, and later in the movie uses it to find her again when the glass slipper fits perfectly on her feet. But shouldn't her glass slippers also have turned back to normal worn-out shoes like everything else when the clock struck midnight? So why does the glass slippers stay when all the other magic wore off?

It's a huge plot hole and given it's the crux of the climax of the film, it's a glaring plot error.

Jester 06-17-2021 09:50 PM

This has been mentioned before I think. I've heard it asked before that is...and I wonder if it's that everything else was shifted from something else; the coach, the horses, the footman, her dress are all made by turning things into them...until 12. But we're the shoes?

Leo656 06-17-2021 09:52 PM

That is a good point, actually.

Perhaps - and I'm reaching here - but perhaps the fact that the two slippers were separated from each other interfered with the spell, or something.

I'unno. That's a huge reach and doesn't make much sense but that's all I got at the moment.

Jester 06-17-2021 10:03 PM

Disney wiki says:
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For some reason, the slippers do not revert when the magic wears off, like the ball gown does when the clock strikes midnight, which suggests that they were actual glass ones. Cinderella thanks her Fairy Godmother for letting her keep them.

In the live-action film, it's heavily implied that the reason the glass slippers didn't disappear was because they were pure magic and did not derive from an already existing object. Instead of transforming Ella's current shoes, her Fairy Godmother asked her to remove them and she conjured up the glass slippers onto her feet.

Leo656 06-17-2021 10:33 PM

I mean, sure? Why not? Once you get into "It's Magic" you kinda don't need to apply any logic to things anymore, anyway. I guess that's as good an explanation as any other.

Mayhem 06-18-2021 02:37 AM

At least glass and not squirrel fur, would have been interesting in a DIsney film :lol:

CyberCubed 06-18-2021 08:53 AM

The Fairy God mother is also widely considered to be one of the first popular deus ex machina in fiction. Cinderella has all these problems and would never be able to go to the ball, but the Fairy Godmother appears out of nowhere and gives her a dress, carriage, glass slippers, turns her animal friends into horses, and let's her go there to meet the prince

The entire story of Cinderella is based on deus ex.

sdp 06-18-2021 09:08 AM

That's why Cinderella III a twist in time retcons so the original movie never happened.

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Cinderella III is also supposed to be "better than the original" and not from Disney's PR but actual reviewers and animation fans. II on the contrary is supposed to be horrible and also retcons a bunch of stuff from the original.

ABrown 09-01-2021 11:26 AM

With Cancel Culture going on, I figured Disney de-cannonized Cinderella anyway.

But speaking of Cinderella, does anyone know if a nuke has been created that's strong enough to take out the whole planet? Cause if so, I wanna borrow it.



oldmanwinters 09-01-2021 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ABrown (Post 1904215)
But speaking of Cinderella, does anyone know if a nuke has been created that's strong enough to take out the whole planet? Cause if so, I wanna borrow it.

I saw a preview for this the other day. Fairy Drag Mother? Geez.

Coola Yagami 09-01-2021 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jester (Post 1895337)
Disney wiki says:

I mean... I guess? But that should just mean that instead of it transforming back into a regular shoe or whatever, it should just flat out vanish.

Allio 09-01-2021 03:31 PM

I just go by finders keepers rules. The prince found the shoes, thus belonging to him, while everything else that belonged to Cinderella changed back.

cammy85 09-02-2021 10:01 AM

II was supposed to be a pilot for a new show like Belle's Magical World was for Beauty and the Beast. But neither went well and so we got better sequels. At least better than mine where Lady Tremaine kidnaps and ransoms the prince in eexchange for Cinderella and every osng is a variation of Bad To The Bone. :P

III indeed was far superior and gave Cinderella a high level of badassery. "BAD kitty!!"

IndigoErth 09-02-2021 02:19 PM

I always assumed she was just allowed to keep them as a souvenir...and that the Fairy Godmother kind of knew something would come of it, helping Cinderella out more than just simply letting her go to the ball, instead also helping her out of that crappy life.

Surely if a fairy godmother is moved enough to show up to grant a wish because you're sobbing over not getting to go to the party because your life is horrible, she might be moved to actually help do something about that, not just send you to it only with the intention of letting you go back to your rotten existence after.

Even if Disney themselves didn't think that through, it would make sense that she could have been pulling strings in the background. Losing the shoe on the steps could have also been her doing.

MsMarvelDuckie 09-02-2021 06:15 PM

Since it's based on a much older tale, I'd say it's more a result of the older version leaking through. In the Chinese version of the story, the gown and slippers were made from the bones of a magic golden carp. Since the fish had used the last of its magic to create them, they only lasted as long as the spell did, unless separated from the rest. Hence why the slipper remained behind. I think there is an Egyptian version as well, which is similar. Both far predate the one Disney based their movie on.

ranger_scout 09-02-2021 11:38 PM

In the 2015 live-action Disney film, the Fairy Godmother had Cinderella take off the shoes she was wearing and magically put the glass slippers on her feet. So, the slippers were not made out of something else. Maybe that’s why they didn’t expire at midnight.

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Originally Posted by ABrown (Post 1904215)
With Cancel Culture going on, I figured Disney de-cannonized Cinderella anyway.

But speaking of Cinderella, does anyone know if a nuke has been created that's strong enough to take out the whole planet? Cause if so, I wanna borrow it.



I’m not going to see that. It reminds me of Descendants. I don’t like modern music being used in movies set in fairy tale type settings.


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