Robocop or The Crow?
 

Talking about the originals only.

I'm going for Robocop. But The Crow is pretty damn good as well, of course.

What a "Left Nut or Right Nut" question. :lol:

They're both so good and so different I couldn't answer this one with a gun to my head. Or my nuts. Sorry, guy. Once again, I've failed you.

Polls like these are supposed to be difficult. Don't worry.

I slightly prefer Robocop because I've never been a goth. Therefore The Crow just doesn't resonate with me as much, I suppose.

Perhaps there's more reasons as to why I prefer Robocop overall, but that might very well be the most defining one

I'm not a goth either and I actually find "the culture" rather ridiculous but there's just so much to love about The Crow that it defies all genre boundaries. Eric Draven is just one of the coolest protagonists ever; like it'd be worth being dead if you got to come back as That Guy for a night. He's just so suave, and his one-liners are impeccable.

Just an incredibly well-written movie that borders on timeless; I mean, it's very "of its era" because the whole Goth subculture was really in full force back then, but at the same time, the movie itself feels pretty timeless. I watched it fairly recently and it still holds up, not dated in the least. Soundtrack's also awesome.

Now, Robocop IS a little bit dated - by design it's Pure 80s from A to Z, and some of the special effects are absolutely horrid, especially Dick Jones falling out the window at the end which is just plain unforgivable. But it's SO good otherwise that I can't even be bothered to care about any of that. And it works on so many levels; it's a straight-up action movie, but it's equally a cutting social commentary packed to the brim with satire. Even if a person is too thick to get the satire, it's still a fantastic action movie. I think that's why it resonated with kids, as well (even though they weren't supposed to watch it, we all did anyway); kids wouldn't "get" it, but Robocop was pretty much a super-hero and they'd still get some of the jokes. The fact that kids co-opted it kind of ruined the franchise by accident, but hey, Kids Like Cool Sh*t, and that was a very cool movie, so it was really unavoidable.

If we were grading on points then The Crow would be ahead on a technical level since there's no instances of bad special effects like the one or two really bad shots in Robocop. But I don't like to grade things that way. As far as Pure Enjoyment, I really couldn't pick. They're two movies I'll watch anytime and never get sick of. Although I do try and space it out just to be completely sure of that.

Sure, from a technical standpoint, The Crow might very well be a better movie. Besides The Crow is younger than Robocop. Robocop is from 1986 while The Crow is dfrom 1994.

I'm just talking about personal preference here. Both classic action films that anyone can pretty much enjoy. I happen to like Robocop a bit more. But I can very well understand why many others prefer The Crow.

There is no right or wrong answer here.

The wrong answer would be "I don't much like either one". In which case I legitimately do not want to know that person.

Or at least, I never, ever want to talk about movies with them.

Robocop by miles.

I can understand the first 1/3 of your answer but not the latter 2/3s.

There's just so much more going on in Robocop. The Crow is great, don't get me wrong, but Robocop has so much more to it. The satire, the commentary, the nuance, even the endlessly quotable humor, Verhoeven at the top of his game. The Crow is fairly simple when you think about it.

Thanks. I don't altogether disagree I just appreciate it when people give lots of details. Gives me something to read.

Contrary to what some may believe, I don't love being the PRIME occupier of real estate around this place.

I voted RC only because I saw that years before ever seeing the crow... both are great but as previously stated, so different. Just don't go into the follow up movies... or tv show... or reboot... lol

Robocop 2 is at least watchable, which can't be said for any of the Crow sequels. It's not a great movie and it doesn't come close to the first, but there's definitely some fun to be had with Robocop 2.

The part where the one failed Robocop clone just pulls his head off, screams and falls over is legit one of my favorite movie moments in history. :lol: I used to wear out my Rewind button on that. Yes, I can occasionally be easily amused by Dumb Sh*t.

Also, the way the mayor says "Drugs... people do drugs" in that one scene is so peculiar and over-the-top that it's become a weird inside joke between my wife and I. Like I'll mimic that whenever we're watching a movie and someone starts shooting up or doing blow, or something, and she'll crack up. :lol:

So yeah, I don't hate Robocop 2. If Robocop 1 didn't exist it would seem a lot better, but as it is it's... fine.

I remember there being a Robocop cartoon series when I was a kid. I watched one or two episodes, but don't remember it at all.

But looking back, it's strange that they made a Robocop cartoon series. The Robocop movie was definitely not for kids. So to turn him into a 20 minute long toy commercial was... strange.

Oh yeah, it didn't last long but it had a bit of a following, and Kenner did a toy line for the cartoon as well. I had the Robocop figure, ED-209 and the motorcycle. I really wanted the car (everyone did) but I didn't get to have it (no one did). The big thing with those figures is that they all shot caps. Not even the "safe" rubber ring caps, like Thunder Punch He-Man used. The paper ones that would go up in flames if whatever toy you were using them in got too hot. Back when you could give that kinda stuff to kids. F*cking awesome. I still remember the smell.

The Robocop movie definitely wasn't meant for kids, and kids didn't even "get" most of it, but the character and concept were undeniably "cool" and kids just looked at it like a really violent super-hero movie. Plus, by the time the cartoon came out, the edited version had been all over TV so most kids had seen at least SOME version of it. Stuff like Beetlejuice wasn't made for kids, either, but that's something we don't give kids enough credit for nowadays. Kids will seek out Cool Sh*t on their own even if it's not made for them. And they'll always be able to handle it, unless they're hypersensitive and sheltered.

Yes, that is true. Kids in general end up watching violent movies and playing violent games. A lot of parents don't care about ratings and it's not like they're constantly watching over their kids.

I mean, when we got cable and Internet it didn't take me long to find porn on both the TV and the Internet even without looking for it. All of this when I was in 5th and 6th grade only. Didn't exactly scar me for life.

Robocop. I do like the crow movie though.

Yeah... if we want to talk Robocop sequels vs. Crow sequels? Oh boy, Robocop wins that one, too, and easily.

Robocop 2 is an oddity to me. I loved it as a kid, didn't like it as much as an adult, but on a marathon a year or two again I found it pretty good. The police striking stuff now made a lot more sense. I still don't like them getting away from the "aesthetic" of Robocop 1. The way they made OCP look and feel, even the look of the boardrooms... that kind of stuff. And the commentary/parody stuff was a little more watered down/generic. Robocop 3, it's not hard to point to a ton of very silly, very kid pandering moments... but there's also at least a few pretty strong ones.

I vaguely remember liking that third Crow movie a little. I think that one was OK. They were trying, and trying something new. Sh**ty of Angels and that Furlong one, true sh** sandwiches.

Robocop an 11 out of 10. Timeless. Perfect. It's next to "Predator" for me in how I could watch it anytime and still be amused. Robocop 2 a 7 out of 10. Robocop 3 a 5 out of 10. The Crow a 9 out of 10. Crow 2 a 3 out of 10. Crow 3 a 6 out of 10. Crow 4 a 1 out of 10. I remember the Furlong one making me angry and I remember it being trapped in post production hell for years and looking forward to it.

I didn't know there were that many Crow sequels, I've not seen any of them, though I might not be missing out given how they are rating in this thread :lol:

Robocop is my 2nd favourite movie of all time. so it's an easy one for me.

Also WCW's Sting became the Crow, but it was Robocop who saved Sting from the Four Horseman. Ergo Robocop > The Crow. Wrestling logic.

I only saw the pilot "movie" of The Crow: Stairway to Heaven. It's pretty bad. It's in the same vein as the Hercules and Xena shows as far as its camp and lack of production values, except it takes itself seriously, which those shows did not.

I can only speak to the first two episodes (which were stitched together to make a "movie" which they then released on VHS), but supposedly that's where the show peaked anyway. Imagine a practically G-rated remake of the first Crow movie, with a lot more stuff going on in the daytime, and Top Dollar has short hair. He also morphs into a snake when he dies, for some reason, something about Good vs. Evil and the Crow being an animal avatar for Good and the Snake being the avatar of Evil. It's very stupid. And then instead of going back to Heaven and being reunited with his girlfriend after killing all the bad guys, Draven is stuck on Earth until he does a certain number of good deeds.

It's very melodramatic and soap-opera and not like the first movie at all. Some people say it's the worst thing in the entire franchise, and considering the sequel films that's no easy task. But yeah, just think "The Crow by way of Hercules: The Legendary Journeys" and then think of anything else.