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ranger_scout 10-04-2022 11:35 PM

Scooby-Doo officially jumps the shark and makes Velma a lesbian.
 
They did NOT need to do this after 50+ years. It was never the original creators’ intent for this to happen nor was it Joe and Hannah Barbera’s either.

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/s...ay-1235392668/

Xav 10-05-2022 12:49 AM

I thought Velma was shown to be attracted to men previously?

Cowabung-Gal 10-05-2022 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Xav (Post 1946034)
I thought Velma was shown to be attracted to men previously?

She was. But it’s the 2020’s; people who have been straight for years suddenly become non-straight without any logical explanation. Even Batman, the charming billionaire ladies man, has a thing for guys now.

Andrew NDB 10-05-2022 01:20 AM

It's obviously progress.

ZariusTwo 10-05-2022 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Xav (Post 1946034)
I thought Velma was shown to be attracted to men previously?

They've wanted Velma to be gay for decades, there were plans to reveal it in James Gunn's movie and in Mystery Incorporated but were blocked both times.

Fred is still the most obvious one to turn gay in my opinion, but that's only because I want Shaggy and Daphne to again be the endgame they so clearly were in the 80s

CyberCubed 10-05-2022 06:28 AM

Jinkies!

Honestly even in 1969 I don't know what Hanna-Barbera was thinking giving her that short haircut and glasses.

RetroReminiscence 10-05-2022 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ranger_scout (Post 1946029)
They did NOT need to do this after 50+ years. It was never the original creators’ intent for this to happen nor was it Joe and Hannah Barbera’s either.

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/s...ay-1235392668/


Welp that explains a lot ????

ProphetofGanja 10-05-2022 09:32 AM

Meh, what a safe/boring choice.

Personally I think it's more interesting if Velma is straight and Fred and Daphne are gay. Shaggy seems largely asexual/aromantic.

neatoman 10-05-2022 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Cowabung-Gal (Post 1946035)
She was. But it’s the 2020’s; people who have been straight for years suddenly become non-straight without any logical explanation. Even Batman, the charming billionaire ladies man, has a thing for guys now.

Well, I mean... Just like Velma, "Batman is gay" has been a joke for decades. Not sure if canonising jokes is a good idea though.

ranger_scout 10-05-2022 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1946045)
Jinkies!

Honestly even in 1969 I don't know what Hanna-Barbera was thinking giving her that short haircut and glasses.

If you watch this video with Nicole Jaffe David, Velma's original voice actress, she said that they pretty much modeled Velma after her. They also wanted her to have a cooky voice like hers.


CyberCubed 10-05-2022 10:11 AM

Kinda blows my mind Scooby-Doo has remained relevant after 50 years. The first series aired in 1969 and its never really went away. I honestly have no idea how it transcends generations like this.

Don't get me wrong I watched a ton of Scooby-Doo as a kid but I'm just shocked its an evergreen property. Outside of superheroes or Looney Tunes I can't think of any other kids property still going after 50 years. Simpsons and Pokemon have nothing on this.

LeotheLateBloomer 10-05-2022 10:31 AM

For some reason, I thought this would be related to the adult Velma spinoff. Guess I was wrong.:lol:

oldmanwinters 10-05-2022 10:32 AM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3la82bYtcPg

Cowabung-Gal 10-05-2022 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by neatoman (Post 1946061)
Well, I mean... Just like Velma, "Batman is gay" has been a joke for decades. Not sure if canonising jokes is a good idea though.

Satire has officially become reality. No wonder Trevor Noah quit.

Coola Yagami 10-05-2022 12:00 PM

I also find it the implication that you can't be a 'non-conventionally attractive' woman without it meaning that you're gay to be rather insulting.

ProphetofGanja 10-05-2022 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1946083)
I also find it the implication that you can't be a 'non-conventionally attractive' woman without it meaning that you're gay to be rather insulting.

yeah that's what rubs me wrong about this whole thing, too

oh well, it's not like it's a big deal in real life

Leo656 10-05-2022 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1946066)
Kinda blows my mind Scooby-Doo has remained relevant after 50 years. The first series aired in 1969 and its never really went away. I honestly have no idea how it transcends generations like this.

Don't get me wrong I watched a ton of Scooby-Doo as a kid but I'm just shocked its an evergreen property. Outside of superheroes or Looney Tunes I can't think of any other kids property still going after 50 years. Simpsons and Pokemon have nothing on this.

Children have incredibly low standards and you simply don't get much more "no standards" than Scooby-Doo.

oldmanwinters 10-05-2022 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1946083)
I also find it the implication that you can't be a 'non-conventionally attractive' woman without it meaning that you're gay to be rather insulting.

My thoughts exactly.

Rugrats had to make the "Empowered Feminist" Mrs. DeVille into a lesbian because if a woman isn't making herself intentionally attractive or feminine, then clearly that's the only explanation...

EDIT:
From my time spent on Deviantart art, I think the perverts are actually way more into lewd Velma art than any other Scooby-Doo character.

Leo656 10-05-2022 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 1946110)
From my time spent on Deviantart art, I think the perverts are actually way more into lewd Velma art than any other Scooby-Doo character.

None of that shows up on mine. Thank goodness. :lol:

See if you can find me on there. :trazz:

IndigoErth 10-05-2022 04:47 PM

Oh... of course, because why wouldn't they. Once again, can't add to a cast, have to change a longtime character instead.

Not a thing against lesbians and have no issue with the idea that everyone deserves some representation, but this imo is just as lazy of a way to do it as the gender swapping stuff.

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1946083)
I also find it the implication that you can't be a 'non-conventionally attractive' woman without it meaning that you're gay to be rather insulting.

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters (Post 1946110)
My thoughts exactly.

Rugrats had to make the "Empowered Feminist" Mrs. DeVille into a lesbian because if a woman isn't making herself intentionally attractive or feminine, then clearly that's the only explanation...

Very much so. The idea (and message at this point) that if a women doesn't fit a specific mold then she MUST be a particular way is getting really, really old. As far as characters go, straight ones don't really seem to be allowed to be the tough girl much anymore. Eesh, let straight women be the combat boots ass kicker sometimes, let the lesbians be the girly-girl sometimes... women come in various flavors and if they are so concerned with representation, well they're rather blindly failing by trying to make it so narrow.

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Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer (Post 1946068)
For some reason, I thought this would be related to the adult Velma spinoff. Guess I was wrong.:lol:

So did I!


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