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Andrew NDB 04-18-2023 01:41 PM

Weird stuff in Star Wars?
 
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It occurred to me there is a lot of really weird things in Star Wars that are sort of just brushed off by casual fans but stand out as pretty weird when you stand back and look at it from afar.

A couple of things:

* Droids' AI. From C3PO-level droids to the smallest, stupidest droids (like the pit droids), they ALL seem to gifted with full, sentient AI, right out of the box. With unique and complex personalities, moods, etc.. And this is never so much as even mentioned anywhere, ever. Why is this a thing? Is it by design (and if so, by who? is "the maker" an actual thing?) or accidental? And is this even a good idea?

* "Lightspeed." There's so many mentions of "we need to make the jump to lightspeed" or "going into lightspeed now" or "OK, making the jump to light!" But we know that it CAN'T be lightspeed, not if it's to make any sense. Like, even if we developed a drive that could enable us to travel at lightspeed tomorrow, it'd take us 5 years to get to our nearest star system. Yet you have stuff like Anakin traveling from Coruscant to Tatooine in like an hour.

* Lightsabers. So it's like "hard light," yes? About as hot as the sun, able to quickly cut through any metal surface quickly, but "stops" if it hits another lightsaber? I can think of several things wrong with that right off the bat.

Cowabung-Gal 04-18-2023 01:50 PM

Anakin apparently has a PSP:

https://i.imgur.com/CfiNxmU_d.webp?m...fidelity=grand

Dpooly84 04-18-2023 02:03 PM

You could literally do this to any movie or show.

CyberCubed 04-18-2023 02:28 PM

Given the lightsabers immediately slice something off, I can never understand how Jedi don't accidentally cut off their own limbs. Especially when they're swinging around the lightsaber like madmen during fight scenes or training scenes, just one slip of the hand and that light saber could cut off your own arm or leg in one slice.

Those things are damn dangerous. Yet the characters treat them as if it's nothing dangerous at all, even while standing around non-Jedi characters.

frank_one 04-18-2023 03:37 PM

- When they say they are "jumping to lightspeed" they could as well mean lightspeed x100 or something. There's no reason they have to specify the actual speed.
- The droids' AI that seems to be gifted to them "out of the box" could be just that. An AI module or chip or board that can be plugged inside a robot's main circuitry. You put it in, you set some pameters (personality, intelligence..) and that's it. Who makes them? Someone. Maybe they are so common that you can find used ones around.
- We don't know the actual technology behind lightsabers and how they work. How come the jedi knights don't hurt themselves swinging them around? Because they are highly trained superhumans, few of a kind.

neatoman 04-18-2023 11:27 PM

Let's see what I can think of off the top of my head:
  • The racing pods essentially just being cockpits hanging hanging off jet engines with cables seems like an incredibly bad idea.
  • Trying to figure out how evolution would even create a creature like Sebulba.
  • C3PO calling R2D2 a "glob of grease", as if fat jokes would mean anything to a droid.
  • That non-canon crossover with Indiana Jones, in which Chewie is the origin of the Bigfoot myth and spares Indy's life because he looks like Han.
  • The original Death Star being built in 20 years but the second taking less than 6.
  • The Phineas and Ferb crossover being an official part of the franchise.
  • The fact that multiple episodes of Detours were completed and the show was simply just not released because Disney thought it would be embarrassing.
  • Boba Fett being a character they made countless stories about despite the fact that he barely did or said anything in the movies and I'm pretty sure his name was only ever yelled out by Han right before he got knocked into the pit.
  • The decision to make Luke and Leia twins after they had already kissed.
  • The Imperial Walkers being way worse designed than the Republic Walkers, even though they could have just kept the better design.
  • Weird pointless contradictions like establishing a human engineer for the Death Star long after the Geonoshans had been established.
  • The fact that Jango Fett was even involved with the assassination attempt on Padmé when that just caused problems.
  • The New Republic needing a "Resistance" to fight the First Order, even though logically the First Order would be a rebellion themselves.
  • The Orange thing having Anakin's lightsaber and just brushing it off as "a story for another time".
  • Darth Maul somehow ending up on a trash planet with mechanical spider legs.
  • ... Every single fucking thing about Episode IX...

CyberCubed 04-19-2023 12:25 AM

After the prequels it doesn't really make sense that Yoda got "so old" in just...20 years? I mean his species lives for over 800+ years, so even up to Episode III he was jumping and bouncing around fighting Palpatine with his light saber.

In Episodes 5 and 6 Yoda is written like an old man where he can barely move or do anything and always seemed tired. In-universe this is only 20 years after Episode 3...and even if he was just doing nothing on a swamp planet for two decades, it doesn't make sense someone of his species would age like that.

They wrote Yoda as if he was a human. As naturally say a 50 year old to 70 year old would be a lot different, but Yoda's species doesn't make sense for that.

IMJ 04-19-2023 10:14 AM

The short answer to all of these observations is that "Star Wars is like Santa Claus - completely implausible and for kids in every way".

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1960935)
After the prequels it doesn't really make sense that Yoda got "so old" in just...20 years?

This one actually kind of makes sense given that when people age they tend to do it suddenly in bursts. So basically the older you get the more quickly you suddenly decline in general.

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Originally Posted by frank_one (Post 1960912)
- When they say they are "jumping to lightspeed" they could as well mean lightspeed x100 or something. There's no reason they have to specify the actual speed.

Yeah this one is pretty good. Basically we just take "jump to lightspeed" as the galactic shorthand but not the quantitative measure.

As in they actually use "warp drive" in Star Wars but because Star Wars is populated with a lot of low-level cities and people they just call it "light speed", whereas Star Trek is largely populated by more advanced, educated civilizations whereby people speak with lesser "lingo" and greater "actuality".

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Originally Posted by frank_one (Post 1960912)
We don't know the actual technology behind lightsabers and how they work. How come the jedi knights don't hurt themselves swinging them around? Because they are highly trained superhumans, few of a kind.

They are never going to show this in Star Wars, but I imagine that there is a comedy to be made somewhere that shows all of the Jedi-in-training who are..... not skilled and routinely making mistakes and cutting off their own limbs as younglings in training. You just don't see those people in the movies... :lol:

Andrew NDB 06-11-2023 02:46 PM

Also, how do starfighter or capital ship shields work in Star Wars? In the X-Wing/TIE Fighter games we see it's not like Star Trek where its a big bubble around, but rather shields that hug the hull of the ship and can be diverted one way or the other. But in the SW movies and Clone Wars cartoon it seems like they don't even really have shields at all? Like how are droids being shot off of starfighters if there's shields?

Coola Yagami 06-11-2023 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1960903)
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* Lightsabers. So it's like "hard light," yes? About as hot as the sun, able to quickly cut through any metal surface quickly, but "stops" if it hits another lightsaber? I can think of several things wrong with that right off the bat.

They have to use some sort of fake swords or whatever during training. They just have to. Even during normal fencing, people wear protective gear during sparring and whatnot so no one gets hurt if they didn't block a sword strike in time... but that doesn't apply with light sabers. There is no amount of clothes or amor that can protect your limbs from being severed, or hell, even getting sliced in half if you forgot to block a strike during a regular sparring session.

Andrew NDB 06-18-2023 05:33 PM

Also, and I'm sure this has been explained somewhere... why are the Separatists fighting the Republic? Like, what is so terrible about the Republic in their eyes that they are willing to sacrifice millions of lives?

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1965023)
They have to use some sort of fake swords or whatever during training. They just have to. Even during normal fencing, people wear protective gear during sparring and whatnot so no one gets hurt if they didn't block a sword strike in time... but that doesn't apply with light sabers. There is no amount of clothes or amor that can protect your limbs from being severed, or hell, even getting sliced in half if you forgot to block a strike during a regular sparring session.

I think you can turn down the settings on the beam to not cut through anything and just make an "ow!" Surely all those dials and knobs on a lightsaber do something.

Mad Dog McMutt 06-18-2023 09:14 PM

Chewbacca is a wookie from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about that. That does not make sense! Why would a wookie, an 8 foot tall wookie, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two foot tall ewoks? That does not make sense!

ssjup81 06-18-2023 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Dog McMutt (Post 1965718)
Chewbacca is a wookie from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about that. That does not make sense! Why would a wookie, an 8 foot tall wookie, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two foot tall ewoks? That does not make sense!

I couldn't help but laugh at this! Love this reference. :lol:

Coola Yagami 06-18-2023 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Dog McMutt (Post 1965718)
Chewbacca is a wookie from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about that. That does not make sense! Why would a wookie, an 8 foot tall wookie, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two foot tall ewoks? That does not make sense!

I mean, Chewie has to eat something. He's surrounded by chubby little snacks.

Mayhem 06-19-2023 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami (Post 1965726)
I mean, Chewie has to eat something. He's surrounded by chubby little snacks.

Why do you think Luke was around the porgs? :lol:

ZariusTwo 06-19-2023 04:29 AM

There is a novel where an Imperial General obsesses with locating Darth Vader's glove, which survived the Death Star

ProphetofGanja 06-22-2023 12:16 PM

Yeah examining Star Wars in any kind of critical light causes the whole house of cards to crumble...

I guess if you want to maintain your enjoyment from the franchise the answer is "don't think about it"

Andrew NDB 09-04-2023 09:02 PM

Question: so... did Dooku know all along that Palpatine was Sidious? I see a lot of folks saying of course he did... but then why all the stuff about kidnapping Palpatine in the Clone Wars show and even the beginning of Episode 3?

MikeandRaph87 09-04-2023 09:09 PM

1. Leia kissing Luke on the lips to make Han jealous.
2. Any concept created by Rian Johnson.

MikeandRaph87 09-04-2023 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB (Post 1974648)
Question: so... did Dooku know all along that Palpatine was Sidious? I see a lot of folks saying of course he did... but then why all the stuff about kidnapping Palpatine in the Clone Wars show and even the beginning of Episode 3?

This should answer your question.



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