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CyberCubed 04-01-2024 10:36 PM

Forgotten older plotlines in IDW
 
This is basically for stuff even prior to Sophie's run.

1. Maligna (the Archie series alien bug queen), was introduced in the Turtles in Space arc as a major threat saying she uses her hive of bugs to harvest planet after planet. After that mini she was never brought up or mentioned again.

2. The orphans that Michelangelo was protecting from Splinter when he took over the Foot Clan and is a major plot point of the City at War arc. These orphans were sent to Dimension X to prevent Karai from also recruiting them as Foot Clan members, and they were with Harold and Fugitoid, but then they were never mentioned again. Harold and his wife are actually back on Earth now, but the orphans have not been seen prior to Sophie's run. Where are they and what are they doing? Karai probably isn't going to recruit them again so why not bring them to Earth.

3. Metalhead wanted an alliance with Bishop to visit Area 51. This was kinda tossed under the rug and forgotten when Bishop died and Krang took over Metalheads body.

4. The Turtles mystic training, so many issues dedicated to this and it never really had any actual payoff?

5. Mutagen Man and Mondo Gecko completely disappeared after post issue 100. What happened to them?


There are some more but they're still technically around in Sophie's run so I can't say they're forgotten, like if the Triceraton/Utrom stuff will ever be resolved but I guess we'll have to still wait on that.

neatoman 04-02-2024 02:14 AM

Ah, I see that IDW continued the tradition of the Mutagen Man being forgotten despite being potentially useful, bravo.

TheLabRat 04-02-2024 02:26 AM

After #100, the ninja magic became more like the plot devices. Like In AG arc, the writer want you to believe that Hob is actually the good guy and Magneto. Raph even uses his newly learned ninja magic to lie detection, and it turns out that Hob is telling the truth, because he is indeed the good guy. Haha!

Another worst is they actually took mystical stuff from Leo when they showed that Donnie would be a mad wizard in the future instead of a mad scientist.

CyberCubed 04-02-2024 04:35 PM

Also another oddity remember when Alopex wore a green bandana to match the Turtles? That was really short-lived wasn't it, I think it only went on a few issues and then Alopex got mad at Raph again and left the whole team in the last few issues lol.

I've been looking over the last number of issues and realizing how many things are just rushed, forgotten or glossed over. Did anyone ever find out the Weasels killed Man Ray? Did people just...not care he's dead? Did Old Hob ever find that out? I don't think he did.

Mona Lisa's issues with her parents was never brought up again, not that anyone cares. April survived an attack from Baxter's slithery lizards or whatever they were, and then she just stayed in the lair and none of the Turtles care about getting revenge on Baxter for April almost being eaten. Baxter's whole story being Mayor kind of fell flat too and I'd rather he had just been arrested at the ending of Armaggeddon game, he's just there now.

TheLabRat 04-03-2024 04:40 AM

Future Raph did talk about Ninjara/Umeko, which mean Raph is done with Alopex. Ninjara will be his new girlfriend. This is main problem with IDW TMNT. Do we really need Nova Poose and Four Winds when this comic already has Neutrinos and The Pantheon?

Bahamut810 04-03-2024 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1987793)
Mona Lisa's issues with her parents was never brought up again, not that anyone cares.

I do. One of the few things in Sophies more socially-inclined run that I was interested in was that. Dont forget when she found out that the TMNT were mutated from animals and she was SO SUPRISED AND INTERESTED she never brought it up again.

CyberCubed 04-03-2024 11:28 AM

Mona Lisa felt like she was originally going to have a bigger role but then Sophie kinda forgot about her as she went on. Mona was one of the first new major characters introduced in the Mutant town arc too after the weasels.

We also have Regenta now touring with Sally and I'm also wondering if that "Sally being mayor of Mutant Town" thing is going to be forgotten about as well. She was supposed to run for mayor and it never happened.

GameCobra 04-05-2024 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1987848)
We also have Regenta now touring with Sally and I'm also wondering if that "Sally being mayor of Mutant Town" thing is going to be forgotten about as well. She was supposed to run for mayor and it never happened.

Actually, I think that's going to be taken advantage of and it'll be Baxter Stockman Vs. Sally.

I honestly wish they stuck with the idea of Mona Lisa and Donatello hanging out more and developing that between them. It was starting to look so good. I get that she couldn't handle the romantic part, but I'm pretty sure she would've been curious why he's so smart and go from there at least, romantic or not.

Dr. Barlow maybe a mouse now, but I can see him returning. More theatening even.

One last thing on my mind: Mikey did mention rebuilding the Dojo after it caught fire. Will they get Alopex and Jennika back and fix it properly someday? That would be awesome.

TheLabRat 04-05-2024 05:29 AM

Why does Krang need Hamato family DNA? Did he really foresee something, or can the reincarnation system be artificially controlled through science?

CyberCubed 08-22-2025 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 1987757)
This is basically for stuff even prior to Sophie's run.

1. Maligna (the Archie series alien bug queen), was introduced in the Turtles in Space arc as a major threat saying she uses her hive of bugs to harvest planet after planet. After that mini she was never brought up or mentioned again.

2. The orphans that Michelangelo was protecting from Splinter when he took over the Foot Clan and is a major plot point of the City at War arc. These orphans were sent to Dimension X to prevent Karai from also recruiting them as Foot Clan members, and they were with Harold and Fugitoid, but then they were never mentioned again. Harold and his wife are actually back on Earth now, but the orphans have not been seen prior to Sophie's run. Where are they and what are they doing? Karai probably isn't going to recruit them again so why not bring them to Earth.

3. Metalhead wanted an alliance with Bishop to visit Area 51. This was kinda tossed under the rug and forgotten when Bishop died and Krang took over Metalheads body.

4. The Turtles mystic training, so many issues dedicated to this and it never really had any actual payoff?

5. Mutagen Man and Mondo Gecko completely disappeared after post issue 100. What happened to them?


There are some more but they're still technically around in Sophie's run so I can't say they're forgotten, like if the Triceraton/Utrom stuff will ever be resolved but I guess we'll have to still wait on that.

Looking at this now they did address Metalhead and the missing Mutanimals so that was good.

Weirdly they never wrapped up the whole Utrom/Triceraton on Burnow Island plot. What are they going to do with them?

Also Maligna never returned yet, which is too bad. Would like to see her in a major story arc.

hypered1 08-22-2025 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 2013160)
Weirdly they never wrapped up the whole Utrom/Triceraton on Burnow Island plot. What are they going to do with them?

Pretty sure Seri is the only Triceraton left and with Krang and Ch'rell both gone it just leaves peaceful Utroms on Burnow Island.

CyberCubed 08-22-2025 08:30 PM

Didn't they want to find a new planet in space to settle down on? I don't remember, but it didn't seem like they planned to stay on Earth indefinitely. I'm just surprised they haven't followed up on them at all since the Armaggedon game ended.

TheLabRat 08-22-2025 09:30 PM

I remember there was a future Raph who came from another universe that was destroyed by Armaggon. In 2023 annual comic ending, he was attacked by foot ninja, and never appears again.

Dancefloran 08-23-2025 07:38 AM

The only forgotten characters I can think of are Maligna, Future Raph, Dan (Spirit Tanuki), Wyrm and Zog !

Well, the IDW universe has become so large that I can't blame the creative team. Good thing they have the Sourcebook now.

As for the Kuji-Kiri, well I agree that it was a cheap Nen (Hunter X Hunter ref), it was always a plot device and they already put limits to "justify" the fact characters are not using it. To be honest, some of these abilities are useful only in certain circumstances and Donatello has a very good reason to not use it. Perhaps we'll see Kuji-Kiri again in the future

TheLabRat 08-23-2025 08:50 AM

They made another excuse that why Karai wanted to attack the turtles was because they had carry these magic secret, but at the same time the turtles seemed to have forgot these technique they had learned.

They even forgot that Leo can travel to spirit world, which mean that when Leo was in India, he could actually use this method to find the other ancient spirits and seek their wisdom instead of wanting to be eaten by soft-shell turtles.

Dancefloran 08-23-2025 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TheLabRat (Post 2013172)
They made another excuse that why Karai wanted to attack the turtles was because they had carry these magic secret, but at the same time the turtles seemed to have forgot these technique they had learned.

They even forgot that Leo can travel to spirit world, which mean that when Leo was in India, he could actually use this method to find the other ancient spirits and seek their wisdom instead of wanting to be eaten by soft-shell turtles.

Agreed, Karai's motive for killing the turtles were forced. But it was implied that she felt threatened by them. And it is true that as Splinter's sons and Shredder's disciples they could claim the Foot clan legacy, but that would be out of character. Or perhaps was the Dragon manipulating her ?

I was just thinking there was another forgotten IDW character : Dreadmon ! It would be nice to see his reaction to the new world

CyberCubed 08-23-2025 10:29 AM

It's not like every one-off mutant has to come back, Wyrm and Dreadmon weren't part of any major stories. But characters like Maligna did seem set up to be a threat but then just disappeared. Hopefully she's involved in some future Dimension X story.

I'm sure Future Raph is going to be followed-up on, that was too big a deal. And yeah, those orphan kids Mikey trained with are still in Dimension X apparently? Harold and his wife came back so why didn't they? What are they doing there? I doubt Karai cares about them anymore.

Can someone remind me if there are any Triceratons who weren't killed off besides the Regenta? I don't think she made any mention of her being the last of her race.

hypered1 08-23-2025 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 2013177)
It's not like every one-off mutant has to come back, Wyrm and Dreadmon weren't part of any major stories. But characters like Maligna did seem set up to be a threat but then just disappeared. Hopefully she's involved in some future Dimension X story.

I'm sure Future Raph is going to be followed-up on, that was too big a deal. And yeah, those orphan kids Mikey trained with are still in Dimension X apparently? Harold and his wife came back so why didn't they? What are they doing there? I doubt Karai cares about them anymore.

Can someone remind me if there are any Triceratons who weren't killed off besides the Regenta? I don't think she made any mention of her being the last of her race.

Unless any Triceratons survived being used as hosts by Ch'rell and his minions it was implied that they were all dead by the end of the AG.

CyberCubed 08-23-2025 11:13 AM

Hm, really, I'm surprised, I don't remember anything being said about that at all. Regenta didn't seem the least bit sad that her race was killed off, wasn't the last we saw of her she was touring the world with Sally? And that was awhile ago too.

Killing off all the Triceratons like that would be pretty surprising, I just assumed only some of them were used as part of the Utrom army and not...all of them?

Dancefloran 08-23-2025 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed (Post 2013179)
Hm, really, I'm surprised, I don't remember anything being said about that at all. Regenta didn't seem the least bit sad that her race was killed off, wasn't the last we saw of her she was touring the world with Sally? And that was awhile ago too.

Killing off all the Triceratons like that would be pretty surprising, I just assumed only some of them were used as part of the Utrom army and not...all of them?

Well, Seri held a funeral during the Armageddon Game (a very fast paced event where multiple plotlines were told at the same time), there was a line were she said Ch'rell took both her mother and people. It would be surprising to learn that Ch'rell spared any Triceration.


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