Avatar: Seven Havens (The Legend of Korra sequel)
 

The third Avatar series is announced on the 20 year anniversary of the first series:

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...302381232.html

I've never seen any episode of Avatar ever. All I know is that most everybody liked the first series, I know at least a lot of people liked the Korra show which I think either went lesbian at the end or a bunch of people just wanted it to (I'm not sure now, honestly), I know everyone hated the Shyamalan movie and I know the original Avatar people worked on the Netflix show but quit because Netflix can't help themselves with their injections of garbage into proven IPs... so I guess it's good that the original Avatar people get another go of things on their own terms again?

I already knew much about this show from leaks but I guess it's fine to talk about it now that we have everything officially confirmed.

In short, the whole thing about this show completely overhauling the setting like this makes me wonder if the original show was ever suited for sequels. Yeah there is the reincarnation angle, which does allow for massive time skips between shows and new characters to be introduced but I'm not sure that is enough.

The original show is set in a really tiny world, the four nations really are confirmed to be everything there is too it, the fact that the literal north and south poles are frequently visited confirms that this is all there is to it. As if that wasn't enough, the fact the entire show took place over the course of one year and that the main characters zig-zagged across the entire planet in their journey from the south pole to the north pole within the first season and had no problem continuing to do so throughout the rest of the series with implied weeks/months long periods staying in one place, seems to imply there really isn't much that we don't see of this world. Oh, and most of this travel? On animal back, not motorised vehicles but on the back of an animal and much else on foot. Granted, we don't quite know how fast a magical flying Bison but it can't compare to an airplane because they don't seem to experience turbulence.

So while each new show may feature new characters and some changes to the political landscape... The geography and cultures are pretty much set in stone, not even the magic system allows for much flexibility because it all has to be some variation of element manipulation. So this world isn't just tiny in terms of how many nations there are, it's tiny in scale alone. Other fantasy franchises tend to get around this problem by not anchoring everything down. Elder Scrolls makes sure each new installment takes place in a tiny part of the setting of Tamriel as to not lock anything down too much, while also making it clear that Tamriel itself is just one tiny part of planet Nirn in case they ever do exhaust the world building. While another approach is in Final Fantasy, where each new installment explores the entire world but each is basically a reboot with its own world, thereby not really being stuck with the same nonsense every time.

Saying that the planet has been nuked and now everything has been completely overhauled seems like a really desperate attempt to keep things fresh. Then again, it's either doing something like that, going to space or pulling a Dragon Quest II and III style retcon if you want to keep the same continuity and those may not be good no matter what. I'm not too sure this was ever a good thing to turn into a larger franchise.

Korra has bunch of controversies about it's storyline beyond the ending. In general it's been pretty heavily criticised for the fact that once the whole equaliser arc wraps up, the plot just comes across like it's made up arc by arc with no clear direction or attention paid to how the decisions would affect future stories.

As for the original show... While there is much more planning than in the sequel, not that much feels random... I kind have a hard time describing it as being that good. I already mentioned that the world building doesn't leave enough room for much new beyond what the first season established, but arguably more important than that it quite often tends to cut some weird corners (the animation in season one has bizarrely low framerate in action scenes for example) and way too much the humor is really cringeworthy. There are plenty of thing to appreciate but the show in general is hardly this amazing thing that so many hype it up as, it's mostly just an OK kids' show that doesn't treat the audience like idiots that just need to be placated for twenty minutes to give their parents a break.

Oh, and yes, the Shyamalan movie is garbage not worth anyone's time. I haven't touched the Netflix show because why the the hell would I? From my understanding it's basically just the original show remade in live-action, and like I said, the original show is really just OK and I don't see how live-action would improve it.

Will there be a last minute out of nowhere lesbian ship confirmed in the last 30 seconds of the final episode like last time?

Well, the new Avatar is meant to be like eight years old this time, so unless there a time skip or we're talking about other characters being the subject of that, I'm not really seeing them putting any emphasis on that here.

I must say though, it's kind of odd how influential that moment was. It's like American kids' cartoons went from never mentioning homosexuality to having the majority of them featuring a lesbian couple almost overnight, many of which even did the exact same thing by having it be a final episode reveal. Not sure if that was because a lot of cartoon writers always wanted to do that and now felt the gates were open, or if producers thought it would make them money if they copied that exact thing. I'm kind of leaning towards the former because I know Bruce Timm and Greg Wiseman had a tendency to hint that many of their characters were gay way back in the 90's.

I think Avatar The Last Airbender is overrated, and Korra is a dissapointment though an ok show. They kind of set themselves up for failure by trying to modernize the avatar world. They should've kept it a fantasy where technology doesn't really evolve., having cars and giant mechs in a steampunk world was a huge mistake.

Whatever happened to the 4 avatar cartoon movies people were talking about. I remember the speculation that one would be about avatar Kyoshi,and one about an adult Aang.

I’m going to assume adults will be entering the picture to help them allowing romance and allow Korra characters to guest star like what happened in Korra. It’d be funny if Mako was the one character to die do to the fandoms dislike of him.

What did you guys think of this show?

It's fine so far, the side characters are all really bland though and look poorly developed. Even design wise, they look like background characters from random shows. Of course the main character Jae is a homosexual. I wonder if they will be able to show an on-screen gay kiss at some point.

I like the two main Avatar girls, but their backstory needs a bit more work. Why did their parents try to separate them (was it just because they found out Nisha was an Avatar?) and are they dead. Of course with Korra we don't know what happened in the past but assumingly she helped save the world and that will be explained.

Animation is also not that good, the fight scenes felt like slow motion compared to previous shows. Maybe the budget can improve in the next seasons.