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prowler4 09-04-2002 03:30 PM

Original Cartoon question
 
What the hell happened to the turtles? In the last couple seasons, from the eps I downloaded and watched, what is with this turtles fighting aliens bs? What happened to shredder? Besides Dregg is gay lol. :D

Nickokapo 09-04-2002 05:30 PM

Re: Original Cartoon question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prowler4
What the hell happened to the turtles? In the last couple seasons, from the eps I downloaded and watched, what is with this turtles fighting aliens bs? What happened to shredder?

I don't know, i haven't seen many episodes, but i think shredder gets deffeated and dissapears...and this dregg alien which i don't like takes his place...he comes back with krang latear in the series anyways :D
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Originally Posted by prowler4
Besides Dregg is gay lol. :D

http://twiki.org/p/pub/Main/RobokopSuxors/gaydregg.jpg

Tinselcat 09-04-2002 06:49 PM

rotflmao!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

prowler4 09-04-2002 06:54 PM

Nice picture :lol: :lol: :lol: :D But it proves I'm right. HE IS GAY! Hell he looks, in that pic, like a member of the village people! aka a bunch of gay guys wearing tight pants and no tops.

Deathknight 09-04-2002 07:17 PM

Here is what happens to shredder that he is finally defeated at the end of season 8 to the best of my knowledge. At the end of season 7, the turtles send the techndrome back to dimension x without Krang, Shredder, Bebop or Rocksteady. After that the creators no longer wanted Shredder and Krang because at a last attempt to save the show they made it serious and as we all know shredder and krang are nowhere near serious. So in season 8 Shredder and Krang had a total of 3 appearances. In the last ep of season 8 (Turtle Trek) Krang finally makes a new dimensional portal and they go back to dimension x to get the technodrome. A dimensional portal takes up an incredible amount of energy (as you would guess) so Donatello picks it up on the Early warning system. They trace the signal and go after Krang and Shredder. Krang scrambled the coordinates of the portal however so the tmnt have to find the technodrome. When the TMNT eventually find it they have one final battle with Krang, Shredder and Bebop and Rocksteady. At the end of the battle the turtles destroy the technodrome's engines right next to a pit where a giant squid-like creature is. The squid-like thing pulls the technodrome into the pit and basically crushes it (meaning the end of Krang and Shredder.) However, Shredder and Krang return in the season 10 3 parter. the first ep is Beginning of the end if your interested.

Kali 09-04-2002 07:41 PM

Well, I was gonna bitch about using "gay" as a negative term...

But that picture's just way too funny, so I'll spare you all. This time.

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan 09-04-2002 08:53 PM

More Information
 
Just to add to what Deathknight said . . .

Dregg and his minions immediately opened up 1995, and he was featured in all eight episodes of that season. Supposedly, he was defeated at the end of this season and that was to be it. No more Ninja Turtles.

Shredder, Krang, Bebop, Rocksteady . . . you name it, they didn't appear during the entire season. The only regulars who made the final cut for 1995 included the four Turtles, Splinter and April. No Rat King. No Irma. No Technodrome. Heck, the Turtle blimp's final appearance was during this season, the season-opener, "The Unknown Ninja."

How the final season (1996) came to be is something I don't know. There were eight episodes in this season, all featuring Dregg and a whole new set of bad guys. Shredder and Krang made appearances in three episodes during a three-part trilogy this season:

"The Power of Three"
"A Turtle in Time"
"Turtles to the Second Power"

One of Dregg's minions ran into Shredder and Krang when he was in Dimension X. Dregg thought that someone with knowledge of the Turtles could help him in his conquest to destroy them. So he brings Shredder and Krang back, they double-cross him in, like, two seconds and, in Krang's words, "try to pick up where they left off."

Apparently, not even a giant squid can stop Shredder and Krang. As for Bebop and Rocksteady, apparently they weren't so lucky. They were not with Shredder and Krang, and they were never mentioned. We can only assume that they are "terminated." In other words, they were written out of the show.

I am not exactly sure what happens at the end of this triology; my memory escapes me. I know along the way that Dregg manages to capture the Turtles, Shredder and Krang. He uses their energy to become some super-mutant or whatever. But, in true cartoon fashion, all hell breaks loose. In the end, however, Shredder and Krang are beamed somewhere (back to Dimension X, I believe), and Dregg is defeated. Also a thing to note: Carter leaves the show. I don't know why, but I can only guess that he suffered the same fate like so many of the show's great cast - he, too, was written out of the show.

In the final episode of the season, "Divide and Conquer" the Turtles travel to Dimension X to get Krang's android body so they can do battle with Dregg. We get to see the body, the Technodrome, and there is a sense of closure at the episode's end. That is how the cartoon ended . . . until recently.

The 1995 season was terrible. The animation sucked, the stories were lame, and the only reason I watched was because it was the Ninja Turtles. The 1996 season was an incredible improvement, helped by the fact that the animation resembled that from 1994 and the stories were better. It also helped that the writer, William Scott, knew how to use his characters. God bless him for bringing back things that everyone missed, things like Shredder and Krang and the Technodrome. And the VAs for this season seemed more into their characters since the 1993 season. Michaelangelo didn't sound so bored anymore, for example.

Anyway . . . now that you have read my book, I hope this helps. If you have any other questions about these last two seasons, I will see if I can answer them.

"We really can handle anyone or anything!" - Leonardo, from "Divide and Conquer"

Nickokapo 09-04-2002 10:14 PM

Woah, that's a long post :o :lol:
I didn't mind carter being written out of the toon, i don't like him...but they got rid of bebop and rocksteady too :dead: oh well...everyone was too serious in that season so even if they were in that season, i don't think it'd make it *that* better... :oops:

Karpo_007 09-05-2002 02:41 AM

i didn't read those cause i don't want to be spoiled... i wtching 4th season right now...

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan 09-05-2002 05:32 AM

You're watching the fourth season? That's one of my favorite.

1990 was pretty much at the peak of the Turtles popularity. That's when they started airing on two networks (FOX and CBS), and it's also when the first movie came out.

There are many wonderful episodes from that year. Heck, they're all really good. The writers really hit their stride in 1990.

"Someone -- or something -- is pounding on the hull."
"Well, whoever it is, tell them we don't want any!"

Shredder and Krang, from "Turtles at the Earth's Core"

Cherubae 09-05-2002 05:50 AM

Veronon's last appearance was in 1994 :cry: :( I can't believe the wouldn't of included him in the '95 and '96 seasons.


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Raphael 09-05-2002 07:28 AM

Sorry for sounding stupid, but what does VAs stand for?

Nturtle 09-05-2002 07:34 AM

voice actor, I think

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan 09-05-2002 07:59 AM

Yes, VA stands for Voice Actor. This stands for the actors whose voices are provided for the characters.

When I said that Michaelangelo sounded bored, its because the VA really did sound bored. Usually, Mikey has a real excited voice, but in the 1994 and 1995 seasons, he just didn't have that Michaeangelo charisma that we love. It was better during the 1996 season, however.

Sorry for the confusion. :)

"Krang, you musn't worry so much! You'll put lines in that handsome face of yours." - Shredder, from "Turtles at the Earth's Core"

Deathknight 09-05-2002 11:27 AM

Probably the main reason you don't see Vernon in season 9-10 is because April was fired in season 8.

"Must I hold your hand every step of the way?" -Krang, Tower of Power

azure turtle 09-05-2002 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kali
Well, I was gonna bitch about using "gay" as a negative term...

But that picture's just way too funny, so I'll spare you all. This time.

Yes, be careful with how you use the word "gay." We don't want to offend anyone.

*snicker*
But I gotta agree... That pic was funny. :razz:

I never did catch any of the last few seasons of the cartoon. I started losing interest when the turtles' looks were changed.

prowler4 09-05-2002 02:25 PM

Sorry let me be politically correct. Dregg is "seeking an alternitive lifestyle." That better? :D By the way I have a question. How come on IRC alot of episodes don't have the theme songs? What the hay?

Karpo_007 09-05-2002 02:29 PM

because the files are smaler without them....

prowler4 09-05-2002 02:32 PM

But that's mean! :( I like the songs.

Nickokapo 09-05-2002 04:01 PM

Hmmmmmm...well i'll tell you in which divx episodes the 3 intros are, so that you can cut them and paste them in any ep that's missing the intro with virtual dub.
1st opening: Turtle tracks (TV Rip version, the VHS Rip version doesnt have the intro)
2nd opening: Planet Of The Turtleoids (Part 1)
3rd opening: Get Shredder
As for the ending, which is also cut out of every episode...well i don't know how many endings the tmnt cartoon had...i only know of 1, and it is in the episode Shredder Is Splintered, if i remember right...you can get that one from kazaa.
Edit: there were other openings...i'm not going to list them all here because i don't know how many there were...but here's a pic of the one i found in Planet Of The Turtleoids (Part 2)
http://twiki.org/p/pub/Main/RobokopS...oidsEnding.jpg
Heh...fred wolf...must've been one of willie coyote's brothers.


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