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Coola Yagami 05-11-2004 09:14 PM

who's funnier? Classic Raph, or the new Mikey?
 
Raph was the witty one of the old show, and now Mikey seems to be full of wisecracks in the new show. Which of the 2 is funnier?

Jo Dawn 05-11-2004 10:11 PM

Um... that's kinda hard to say... as, uh... They both have their "moments"... but I was never one for "silly"...

But I'd have to go with the new Mikey. Even though he sometimes gets to be a little much, he's alot funnier. Especially since he uses alot of pop culture references...

EDIT - Sometimes I think that the New Toon Raph is just as funny (if not funnier) as Mikey, with some of the comments he makes. And Leo and Don both have their funny moments, too. :)

Then again, it all depends on your definition of "funny", and your own sense of humor.

Dane E5R 05-11-2004 10:15 PM

Jeez, this is a hell of a question. While Raph may be my boy in ANY incarnation, I gotta say the new Mike's funnier.

Barkworm 05-11-2004 11:25 PM

I don't think the new Mikey's funny but most of the time darn annoying. Raph gets my vote.

Zachatello00 05-12-2004 12:00 AM

Well, the humor was well balanced last go around with Raph being a smart a$$ and Mike being a goofball. It was almost like Chandler and Joey humor, if you're a friends fan. No one would say that Friends would be just as funny without Joey, or vice versa.

That being said, I think that 4kids relies a little too heavily on Michelangelo for humor. I agree with Jo Dawn, that each turtle is funny, Raph too with his attitude, and the banter between the turtles is great. But without sarcastic Raph, sometimes Mike just comes off as the younger sibling who just gets on everyones nerves. Like, for example, in Notes from the Underground when the turtles are fighting these deadly monsters, Mike is going on about Don (I think) calling him sensitive. I just wanted to say, "Mike, shut up and fight!"

Mind you, I think Mike is stinkin' hilarious. I love him and wouldn't change his character in the least. Nor would I change Raph's in the new toon, since he's supposed to be that way. Sometimes though, Mikey's a bit much.

Could that BE any wordier?

Nosferatu 05-12-2004 02:28 AM

I guess I'll say Mike.

I never really found the original cartoon's Raph very funny. He had his moments, but for the most part, I didn't care for his comments.

So that means that ol' Mikey wins by default. I haven't seen much of the new show after the whole Utrom thing with Shredder, but I prefer Michelangelo's humor in the new show over Raph's in the original anyday.

Jo Dawn 05-12-2004 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachatello00
That being said, I think that 4kids relies a little too heavily on Michelangelo for humor.

Ditto.


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...and the banter between the turtles is great. But without sarcastic Raph, sometimes Mike just comes off as the younger sibling who just gets on everyones nerves. Like, for example, in Notes from the Underground when the turtles are fighting these deadly monsters, Mike is going on about Don (I think) calling him sensitive. I just wanted to say, "Mike, shut up and fight!"
Again, I agree. :)

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Mind you, I think Mike is stinkin' hilarious. I love him and wouldn't change his character in the least. Nor would I change Raph's in the new toon, since he's supposed to be that way. Sometimes though, Mikey's a bit much.
I agree with everything you've said here. I love Mikey, I truly do... He is who he is, and that's great. And he's so funny. But sometimes...

Needless to say, I still wouldn't change Mikey for anything. :)

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Could that BE any wordier?
:lol: :wink:

Mondo J. Gecko 05-12-2004 12:52 PM

I'm voting old school raph... he was classicly sarcastic.... :D

Jester 05-12-2004 02:14 PM

Jester votes for raph....i mean just read my siggy...those are classic lines....many of mikeys jokes fall flat...even to his brothers. Don't get me wrong Mikey's a bright spot of humor in the new show...but sometimes he's over the top like here:
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...and the banter between the turtles is great. But without sarcastic Raph, sometimes Mike just comes off as the younger sibling who just gets on everyones nerves. Like, for example, in Notes from the Underground when the turtles are fighting these deadly monsters, Mike is going on about Don (I think) calling him sensitive. I just wanted to say, "Mike, shut up and fight!"
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i totally agree....though orther things like the "Oh yeah u should be the one saying farewell, uh, to yourself" from shredder strikes back is pretty funny, but raphie still gets the last word with "Oh yeah mikety that got him!"

Misfit 05-12-2004 02:21 PM

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Which of the 2 is funnier?
DAMN, that's like asking me to choose between a Dairy Milk or a Milky Bar. I just can't do it! Argh!

Drtooth 05-12-2004 03:13 PM

Yeah/... both have moments over the other. Sometimes Rob Paulsen Raph is funnier, sometimes Mike... I dunno... hard choice. As long as that guy from the red sky didn't voice Raphael Raph was the man ... though there were FAAAAR too many cow jokes in that one episode. What was it? The Mutegen Monster... something like that.

But I have to say, I almost hwarfed up a lung when Mike said "At least it wasn't 'Kowabunga!'"

MGMae 05-12-2004 03:48 PM

As pointed out - there's a comedic element to all of them. But I honestly can't compare old Raph and new Mikey, it seems like apples and oranges to me. :lol:

Old School Raph was based on the principal of "cool but rude" - new Mikey is based on the principal of Pop Culture Junkie.
Old School Raph was sarcastic, snarky, sometimes dry - new Mikey's the type to slip on the banana peel for a chuckle.

(Although I do remember the old episode where Raphael tried to be a stand up comic...sort of. I know I saw it, anyway :D)
So that makes it a matter of taste right, and since I have no discernible taste and like all kinds of comedy, they rank pretty even. :lol:

But Michelangelo wouldn't be as funny in the new cartoon if he didn't play fall guy. Like all good comedy teams, he sets himself up and Raph plays straight man. So! If Mikey's funnier in the new cartoon, he owes it partially to Raph. :)

J Legault 05-12-2004 03:54 PM

Old Raph isn't anywhere close to the original Raph. I like him the most. Not saying the old Raph is bad, but Rob Paulsen did a good job for old Raph.

The Old Toon Mikey used old jokes in the old show but the New Mikey is what makes the New Series fun to hear or see, his impressions of Arnold, Batman, Shredder, Gary Coleman, Steve Irwin, or something else from Television.

Indigo 05-12-2004 04:21 PM

I LOVE Mikey, no doubt about it, but old Raph wins my vote.

Sarcastic comedy is more my thing.

Taloniss 05-12-2004 06:00 PM

I voted Raph. Both are funny, but it takes a sharper wit and more creativity to come up with sarcasm that's funny then it does to spew pop culture references, so Raph wins in my book.

Buslady 05-12-2004 07:18 PM

The old Raph is ok, I really like the new Raph so much better. He's more in character, he can crack a joke once in awhile but mostly he's intense and serious...I love that.

So my vote goes for new toon Mikey. Movie Mikey's funny too...

TournamentFightersOwns 05-12-2004 09:06 PM

Old Raph Vs. New Mikey
 
I liked how Paulsen's Raph was somewhat of a wise-cracker,yet serious,while Mikey was a "surfer-dude" type.


The new show,though...Mike's much more of a dork,and I love his pop-culture references,which the old show didnt do too much of.

New Raph is fun to watch ,and he's my fave on the new show,but since this is Old raph vs. new Mikey,I'm going to go with New Mikey on this one.

[email protected] 05-12-2004 09:28 PM

Definatly the new mikey because of him imitating darth vader and other funny stuff. The old toon raph was just sarcastic.

DrSpengler 05-12-2004 10:36 PM

Raph, without a second thought.

The New Toon Mikey is more annoying that funny. Especially in Turtles in Space. I just wanted to strangle him. That and the fact that he calls everything his "babies". His snackfood, his stomach, his nunchakus...the joke wasn't funny the first time.

Raph, on the other hand, was funny more often than not. his humour was different than New Toon mikey and, dare I say, reasonably intelligent.

MGMae 05-13-2004 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Buslady
Movie Mikey's funny too...

Oh yeah! I forgot about Movie Mikey. Can't beat "Ninja kick the damn rabbit." :D
Unless you have porkrinds.

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