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Originally Posted by Leo656

"Addicts". Feh. Kill 'em all, waste of f*cking resources. You'll never hear me say different.

You have my sympathy. I've dealt with similar stuff for a large part of my life and I've got to the same conclusion.

Of course, some people will cry "b-b-but they just need more compassion and empathy", but I think those people never dealt with several years of abuse at the hands of the same person, despite your desperate pleads for them to stop.

It is easy to pretend that you are nigh-saint and full of compassion and empathy...until some freak turns your life into nightmare for several years in the row.

Originally Posted by Redeemer

Dude settle the hell down. I thought you were insinuating that the Chinese government created and released this virus into the public. Also look up "Transference" you keep transferring attributes and ideals of one set of people on to another without cause....

I've got facts for you and your answer is: "you are transferring **** on people".

I do not blame all people of China, I blame only those who were trading and eating ****, as well, as their government for doing nothing about it. It has nothing to do with race.

If you see here "racism" than it is you who are racist, because, you are automatically assume that culture = race and that all Chinese has the same culture.

Originally Posted by Redeemer

also you call me fragile? You are the one who just lashed out and snapped back at me, resorting to insulting me by insinuating and labeling me as "fragile".

If you consider that an insult, I dreading to think how you'll react to REAL insults. Must be some fascinating breakdowns.

Originally Posted by Voltron

Right. Because no one eats anything "weird" anywhere else. Or people aren't hungry anywhere else.

Show me market of roadkills in USA and places in the country where people are treating them as a normal food.

Also, "people are hungry" is a nonsense deflection. If your "food" potentially can kill yourself and cause an epidemic, you'd probably should think twice before eating it. Also, China does not live in the ****ing middle ages. They are fairly modern country with a big infrastructure.

The only reason those markets exists, because, of "tradition" and apathy or corruption of Chinese government. But, of course, we shouldn't say that, because, precious China feelings gonna be hurt. Or is it feelings of people on Internet? What about people who had died because of their negligence? What about people who will die because of it? Do you even care?

Originally Posted by Voltron

Ok, this is going to be fun.

You love facts. Well, I've got some in one of the previous posts of mine in a form of a report from the respected source about the issue.

Originally Posted by Voltron

This implies that viruses start due to the unsanitary, barbaric behavior of the local people.

Carry this over to swine flu, which started in the American mid west, and IMJ (from the midwest) just called his family filthy savages.

Now, I don't believe that's true. But why IMJ would openly say that is beyond me. Maybe it's because he, like the rest of the brain trust demanding the Chinese take the blame for this, are not the brain trust they want to be.

It doesn't matter. What matters is that it is racist. Demonstrably so. And when you try to disprove that, you end up making ambiguous claims about your family's relationship with pigs.

I'd caution you against that.

Ah yes, blaming well documented unsanitary conditions and apathy of government is racist.

People like you are responsible for Rotterham and other stuff like that. You don't care about human lives. You care only about appearance. As long as nobody says a bad word - everything's fine. People can be raped and die by the thousands, but at least no-one says a bad word and you can pretend to be a good person.
I just wonder, what it's like to live a life full of lie?

Also, your "facts" are trash. You are comparing tiny amount of cases against 200k+ infected throughout the world. And an outbreak, which had happened back in 1918. ****ing 102 years ago!!

Originally Posted by Voltron

I don't think anyone is unfamiliar with the origin of the disease. That's not what's being contested.

What I'm saying is that if I attach a name to something, it acts as an attack on everyone and everything that name is associated with.

You just confirm that you are a racist because, in your mind, putting blame on relatively few people for eating crap and bureaucrats for allowing to do so, somehow transforms into accusation against ALL Chinese.

Originally Posted by Voltron

My point is that this is a racial thing. And no amount of arguing is explaining is going to change that. It's the same as calling AIDS Gay Related Immuno Deficiency. Not really all that helpful to start pointing at homosexuals and saying "look! they're diseased!"

If that's a trolling it is a very bad one.

Originally Posted by Voltron

No, it isn't. I don't live in the United States anymore. I fled during the Obama years and moved abroad. I'm a racial minority here and no one really gives me **** for it.

Ah, why I am not surprised.

Originally Posted by Voltron

The social crime is using an umbrella term to vilify everyone in a region. The joke being that you're not in any way, shape, or form responsible for swine flu anymore than the general population of China. But we're still calling it the "Chinese virus" because. . . what? Are you saying we should force China to change the way they live? Isn't that imposing our will on another person? Are you not against that?

If they "way of life" resulted in 8000(!!!) dead in a matter of few weeks, then yes, **** their way of life. Also, general population of Hubei IS responsible for this.

I wonder, would you be so compassionate, if one of your loved ones died because of this virus? Would you still say "their way of life is precious, we shouldn't impose ourselves on them"?

Would you say that in a face of people who lost their loved ones?

And in general, would you say that to the women who suffered at the hands of religious extremists?

By your logic, people shouldn't oppose Nazis, because, it's just "their way of life".

Originally Posted by Voltron

We've had presidents who were convicted of war crimes. We also have towns with no reliable plumbing.

Towns with no reliable plumbing are not the same as market full of unsanitary **** causing thousands deaths.

Originally Posted by Voltron

Of course I'm the hero! I'm super great!

All joking aside, I do typically stand by my BS. Both in real life and online. I've been pretty gentle with you guys, too. I've reigned it in over the years.

If you want to start a hate club, you wouldn't be the first.

So much posturing.

No-one buys it.