Corona Virus/Dow Jones taking a hit/possible recession

[Voltron]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Whew. I love you, brother,

Gladly accepted and returned!

I hope by now you know that I tend not to say things unless I have something to back it up.

but there's a HUGE gap between US workers being "under-paid" when there are people getting $15 an hour to do a monkey's job (when they're not so much "underpaid" as it is more that rents and mortgages cost too much;nobody SHOULD get $15 an hour for putting cheese on a f*cking bun, I'm sorry, but by all means, lower the cost of living, that's something we'll agree on), which is the US version of what you're talking about, and literal children on the other side of the world losing their fingers in Nike sweatshops for two cents a day. And when I hear anyone whine about "violations of human rights" in the US, it's usually some junkie with a needle in their arm bitching that The Man wants them to get their sh*t together and stop being a public nuisance and/or health hazard.

1. Current US minimum wage is $7.25. McDonald's starts you off a little higher.

2. Controlling prices is very much an authoritarian, communist move. A core belief of the GOP and conservatives across the board is that the government has no place in a free market.

And to an extent, I agree. There's certain lines the government shouldn't be crossing in that regard. Price capping is a dangerous area to enter when discussing any of this.

We're not seeing government thugs smashing people's heads in with bricks for having the audacity to criticize their own government. That's Over There, NOT Over Here.

Trump has asked for people to attack protesters and praised their efforts on the follow through.

The US and China ain't even playing the same sport when it comes to who treats its people worse. C'mon, guy.

To sides of the same coin, brother. One doesn't exist without the other.

I agree that it's not good that Chinese and Asian people are being attacked and assaulted because of what one country's government probably did, BUT... well...

Thank you.

For three years, I've watched people loudly advocate for assaulting anyone wearing a Trump hat, anything from "punch Nazis" (with anyone who isn't a Democrat being a "Nazi" by default) to "Shoot the President", all without any irony whatsoever, and I've even seen little kids gang-assaulted and beaten so badly on the school bus just for wearing a red hat... "because they deserve it", so... Tit for Tat, I guess?

There's a lot to unpack here.

1. The term Nazi has been thrown around so much that it doesn't have much meaning or impact anymore. Sumac called liberals Nazis the other day. I don't think anyone knows what Nazism is.

2. Again, Trump has openly called for violence. That was answered. By a Neo-Nazi, oddly enough.

3. And then some by the MAGA bomber.

Like, I personally don't think violence should be used unless someone hits you first, after which all bets are off.

There's a lot to discuss here, too. The 2nd Amendment exists for a reason. Jefferson even said it was to kill the government should the government over step it's reach.

What bothers me most about it is that during 8 years of Obama, there were no militias rising up to take out the dictator.

All jokes aside, tit for tat is an eye for an eye. That leaves everyone blind.

BUT, Liberals and progressives have been advocating violence over Words and Ideas for a very long time now,

so they have no moral high ground to claim at the moment. They can't act outraged if people are getting beaten up for bad reasons, when they've been TELLING people to beat people up for bad reasons for years now. THIS is where that "Punch Nazis" sh*t gets everyone. I've been trying to calmly explain that to my friends on FB who've been loudly calling for violent anarchists to overthrow the government for years: "It's all well and good to incite violence until people you DON'T wanna see getting punched in the face are getting punched in the face. Nobody should be punching anyone."

Hence no tit for tat. But we're talking about the fringe lunatics here. Regular people don't make the news. We aren't interesting enough. The insanity eventually bleeds down to us, though.

I agree, violent racist outbursts are not good. I am not happy that is happening. The virus still came from China, regardless. I simply wish people understood that it's not a problem you can punch away.

I don't think anyone is unfamiliar with the origin of the disease. That's not what's being contested.

What I'm saying is that if I attach a name to something, it acts as an attack on everyone and everything that name is associated with.

During the government shut down, I changed the title of the thread to the Trump Shut Down and the conservatives on the board lost their mind. This despite Trump literally claiming responsibility for it ON TAPE.

My point is that this is a racial thing. And no amount of arguing is explaining is going to change that. It's the same as calling AIDS Gay Related Immuno Deficiency. Not really all that helpful to start pointing at homosexuals and saying "look! they're diseased!"

But I knew it was only a matter of time. Human beings are inherently tribal. ALL human existence is about "Us vs. Them".

No, it isn't. I don't live in the United States anymore. I fled during the Obama years and moved abroad. I'm a racial minority here and no one really gives me **** for it.

Always was, always will be.

If you make it.

That's why it's not going to get better; it's in our DNA, and you see how little it takes to bring it out of us.

Or we could just pull the frame back a bit and see that something that started in one place infected the whole world. We're irreversibly connected now. That's why this xenophobic stuff isn't going to play out. We can't untangle ourselves from each other.

Doesn't even have to be racial; we advocate violence and death because someone wears a red hat.

You know someone just unfurled a swastika flag at a Sanders rally, right? The man had relatives killed in the Holocaust.

Maybe don't act like third-world barbarians? I did just see a study that heavily implies that it DID come from eating bats. Okay then. WHAT RATIONAL F*CKING PERSON DOES SH*T LIKE THAT?

Americans eat roadkill, dude.

It's like I was watching some show on Discovery Channel recently, and the host dude was in some local village and they invited him to take part in an ancient ritual in which they all drank a bunch of cow's blood, which was poured into a cup straight from the jugular vein. And I'm sitting here thinking, "YEAH, wow, nothing like a big cup'a AIDS blood to make me feel like one'a you guys."

Drinking blood is a pretty common practice the world over.

[Voltron]

Sure, better healthcare. Social safety nets. Fine. People ALSO need to look at what year it is and stop acting like its 500 years ago, and writing it off as "Cultural Differences". Government-run healthcare isn't the solution when some idiot looks at a rabid animal and thinks it'll make a tasty treat. That's a f*cking End-User Problem.

I don't understand what you're trying to say here. Getting mad at someone for burdening the system is fine, but it's always going to happen. And in varying degrees. People eat unhealthy. People smoke. People drink anti-freeze.

I don't care if we have to save dumb asses. We already are. There's 7 billion people on the planet and at least one of them just argued that they're partially responsible for swine flu. I don't want to bar people just because they aren't killing it in the education department.

There ARE no "cultural differences", we're all human beings. What affects one, affects all. Someone's scumbag behavior in another hemisphere creates a butterfly effect that kills people half a world away. If a person needs to be TOLD, "Don't eat bats, dude," then THAT PERSON is a f*cking idiot, and whoever raised or taught them needs to be held accountable for putting sh*t

I dunno. I just watched a documentary on the Unabomber. Felt really bad for his family.

because telling people that it's not okay to eat diseased and infected meat is "racist"

There's speculation that we've seeded prions through our poorly run meat industry. We could be sitting on an incurable pandemic that drives everyone nuts in 30-40 years.

IT'S COMMON SENSE! JESUS!

So is washing hands. But the first guy who suggested was sent to the mental asylum.

It's like telling someone to wipe their ass is "racist".

Ironically, a Chinese invention!

"Well, some countries don't have indoor plumbing." YEAH, WELL, those countries not-too-coincidentally are run by drug kingpins and terrorists, maybe get your f*cking priorities straight and not let people like that be in power, and then you'll HAVE good things.

We've had presidents who were convicted of war crimes. We also have towns with no reliable plumbing.

Sh*t like this more than anything makes me think sometimes that a One World Government is the only solution. I don't WANT that, but... when so much of the world's ills are simply due to "cultural differences", well... then maybe "culture" needs to go away and we all need to agree on what year it is, and what The Rules are.

It's weird to hear that, since that's also a tremendous fear of the right.

Because ultimately, that's the only way any of this stops. If some people are SO stupid, that they don't know better than to eat f*cking bats, then a New World Order really is the only way. One race, one language , one economy, and ONE set of rules for all of humanity to live by. If the alternative is death and anarchy, well... maybe it's better that way.

It could be argued that a one world government already exists. The provisions in a lot of the international trade deals cede our sovereignty to corporations. These same corporations have interconnected our world, allowing these viruses to spread.


Also, this is exactly what ended up killing the Native Americans. There's not a whole lot here that we can't say about ourselves, either.

[Wildcat]

So I wasn’t sure about posting this because I thought it might be too silly or out of place. It was just a fun thought to lighten the mood. I’m not actually expecting this.

It’d be cool if aliens showed up to save earth from this virus. Like what if they’ve never truly revealed themselves because they were waiting for a big enough reason? Something so significant they thought it was time to help us so they give us a cure because a vaccine would take too long.

What if this alien race never intervened before because they wanted us to learn things for ourselves but because humans and the planet were threatened they felt they had to step in.

Hope this didn’t come off stupid or inappropriate. Just things run through your mind. Ya know chaos emeralds are also used for healing

[Voltron]

You can't hide your bad argument behind a "racist label", but if stating the origins of the virus issue, and the conditions which released it into a human population is racist, then I am proudly that according to your use of the label. There is no social crime in saying that a pandemic originated from where it originated and having some disgust at the conditions through which it was introduced as a problem. The real social crime is censoring conversations by virtue of your opinion or shutting down conversations through phony shame tactics like calling someone a racist.

The social crime is using an umbrella term to vilify everyone in a region. The joke being that you're not in any way, shape, or form responsible for swine flu anymore than the general population of China. But we're still calling it the "Chinese virus" because. . . what? Are you saying we should force China to change the way they live? Isn't that imposing our will on another person? Are you not against that?

And Voltron? You're using that term "racist" pretty liberally. Are you confident that your own online behaviors and commentary and history is that airtight that it wouldn't succumb to the current socio-political-work climate that you use here as a manipulation so frequently?

I'm sure I would!

Is your own posting and screen capped history so airtight that you'd be open to anyone in your home, education, work or social life reading an appropriately cultivated history of online postings, group joining, incoherent ramblings, etc but you'd be exonerated for it in the current social and work climate?

I try to keep the extreme left out of my life. Despite popular belief, I'm not that far to the left. I'm just not insane. I'm also willing to let people call themselves a "non-binary asexual androgyny" or whatever suits them because it doesn't impact my life in any way. There's way more important things to worry about than Geena Davis or Captain Marvel.

If it were tested in real life, how would you fare? What if your online history and behavior wound up "cancelling" you? What if your online history got you labeled you as a racist and you were fired for it? It's easy to do nowadays when people have the same standards as you have employed here, right? Would you still employ those phony tactics on other people? Do you think that you are immune to the phony arguments and manipulations that you've employed here in interactions with other people? The ease by which people pencil whip these things? Do you think that someone can't demonstrate your "racism" or "bullying" or whatever easily pencil whipped nonsense manipulators use nowadays to have people or conversation "cancelled"? Do you think your own tactics can't be flung against you to impact your life?

I mean. . . I already said they'd go ape ****. I don't know what more you want.

Or haven't you realized that you aren't the hero -

Of course I'm the hero! I'm super great!

All joking aside, I do typically stand by my BS. Both in real life and online. I've been pretty gentle with you guys, too. I've reigned it in over the years.

If you want to start a hate club, you wouldn't be the first.

[TommyT]

Originally Posted by TommyT

I'm betting on April 1st. I'm thinking we need to start a pool, make it interesting...

Is nobody going to update that second hand and move it closer to ****ing midnight? Are we really being this lax with tradition? We’ve got to be closer to 30 seconds by now! Where are the science nerds to do the big photo op!

Must I do everything myself!!!

Doomsday clock

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Voltron

Actually, you should mail it to me. I’m finally vindicated by your own heroes. You should be protesting their betrayal of your values,

Not at all. My very liberal governor did this. One hour after the press conference a week ago, everything fell apart here. Whether right or wrong. I am able and very willing to work and will be made to not be so... probably any day now. A stopgap to contend with something we're literally being forced into against our will, forced out of our jobs, isn't the same thing as "fwee evweething foh awlll foweverrr!" It's not a very difficult distinction.

t's the same as calling AIDS Gay Related Immuno Deficiency.

Not remotely. If there was a country called "Gay" and it originated there, then yes. Or more on point, if it simply manifested in homosexuals one day as the origin story (hint: it didn't), then also yes. Not even close to apples to apples.

Also, always a fun resource every time someone says "some racist did this!"/"Trump 'inspired' this!"

https://www.attacksontrumpsupporters.com/

[Voltron]

Not remotely. Definitely.

You said Robocop could be considered chrome washing in reference to white washing. You're not on good footing here.

Also, a stop gap is very much welfare. No one ever argued for free everything.

[Leo656]

Yeah, I had to go handle a situation.

Off-topic Update from earlier: So her Dad wouldn't stop screaming at the walls and we're all fed up, so I finally went and told him to knock it off, again, because it was almost 3am and people are trying to relax. Loud words were exchanged, he spends the better part of a half hour screaming at me that he doesn't HAVE to shut up, it's "his house", he wants everybody dead, yadda yadda, we're all trash, yadda yadda... I keep saying, "We can ALL have peace and quiet the second you knock this off, so KNOCK IT OFF and go to bed already, like we're all trying to do." No dice. So it gets loud, and then out of nowhere he reaches under the bed and whips out the BIGGEST f*cking knife you've ever seen, gets up and starts coming at me with it. Like literally, 6 inches away from me, walking towards me and laughing. My wife was taking a piss, I holler, she calls 911. His wife comes barging out of the bedroom and sees him trying to hide the knife and wrestles it away from him, while he meekly tries to pull a "I din't do nuffin."

The cops seemed less interested in me, since they didn't SEE the knife incident, but they didn't so much like hearing about how he slapped my wife in the face earlier. He tried crying the blues swearing that we beat him up, as he usually tries to, but they didn't want to believe him this time for whatever reason. So they called an ambulance and made him go to the hospital for "psychiatric evaluation". Too bad we didn't get him with the knife on camera this time; last time he pulled that he got locked up for a week.

So yeah, I'm a little bit shook, so I think I'm gonna step back from this chat for the moment because I'm not really in the mood for it. Might chime in later. Really need to relax. I WILL say, this dude's been drunkenly screaming at the TV for three goddamn years about wanting to shoot Trump, and anyone who likes him, in the face. SO, to the Dems, I'll just say, "Claim your own." I know TOO many of these kind'a people, but they only vote Blue. Perhaps it's different elsewhere; meanwhile, there's a guy next door with a giant f*cking Trump flag on a pole outside his house and he never makes a peep. People can pick whatever side they want, and if it's different elsewhere or for other people, then good, fine, whatever. I can only call what I f*cking see. And what I *personally* am "lucky" enough to see, is a drunken asshole who spends his days screaming about killing Trump and his nights screaming about killing us.

I love my wife but we're only here at her and her Mom's insistence. I can't live like this anymore.

Anyway, yeah, I don't know brother. There's a lot I wanted to address in your post, Voltron, but right now I'm just not in the mood.

UPDATE: Oh, yay, they already released him from the hospital because obviously there's no room for him. TAKE HIM TO JAIL, ASSHOLES. "We didn't SEE him threaten you with a knife." But his wife's testimony that she had to wrestle the knife away from him means nothing.

Yeah, someone in this house is not going to survive the week. Just not sure who it's gonna be that goes.

I knew he was gonna pull this sh*t since there's no way to be punished for it since we're under "martial law". I f*cking KNEW IT.

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: Kill your local "addicts" today, kids. They're just taking up space and you'll be doing a valuable public service. It's literally Them or You.

[Voltron]

Point made.

My neighbor shot his wife when he found out she didn't vote for Trump. Sad incident. Earlier he insisted we all put Trump stuff on our front yard to show solidarity. Got into a fist fight with another neighbor who didn't share his enthusiasm. Guy shouldn't have been out of prison but. . . oh well.

I also read the attacksontrumpsupporters.com that Andrew put up. Apparently he didn't. Some of them weren't attacks. A few of them weren't on Trump supporters. And one was actually a right winger distributing anti-semitic literature in a predominately Jewish neighborhood. So I guess these guys didn't read their website either. Weird.

Interesting that there were deaths that I could find, either. I searched the top 10.

Unfortunately, the same can't be said on the other side. Trump supporters have spilled blood. . .

[Leo656]

When it's on my street and in my house, I'll gladly throw down a flag.

Right now, I haven't ever had a giant knife waved in my face by a Trump supporter, so I'm thinking of asking the neighbor if he's got a spare room. His house is twice the size of ours and nobody over there ever yells. People laugh. They have fun over there. Cops never get called. I'm jealous. I'd take my chances with him and his giant TRUMP 2020 flag over this wonderful "liberal Democrat" and his drunken lunacy.

I'm mostly just venting. This guy's terrible at being a liberal, he just votes Democrat because they keep promising him free sh*t. He's incredibly racist and hates everything and everyone. He wants Trump dead, but all the "n*****s and f*****s", too. He actually BEHAVES more like the stereotypical, cartoon super-villain Trump supporter you read about, except he only votes Blue, because again, Free Sh*t. Makes me wonder how many of them are out there.

In any case, a good example of not judging an entire party by the scumbags who vote for them. I know that, logically. But again, I can only call what I see, and I sadly interact with more people Like This who say they lean Left than otherwise. When I meet and have threats of violence made towards my person by someone in a MAGA hat, I'll gladly call them an asshole.

They must be holding those people somewhere else, though. I wouldn't doubt it if NJ truly is some kind of parallel universe, where the Conservatives are the sane people and the Liberals are the unhinged psychos. BUT. That's the reality of life in my little neck of the woods. I can't explain it, I just Observe and Report.

I've also been holding a piss for FOUR HOURS because the bathroom is downstairs and I really don't want to deal with this piece of sh*t. Ya boy's got the life, man.

[Voltron]

Yeah...

I'm sorry man. Sounds like the guy has worse problems than politics. If you need to vent proper, I got an open ear. I'm not an asshole all the time.

Take care of yourself, bro.

[Leo656]

I hear ya. Doing my best.

Like, the cops laughed about him slapping my wife/his own daughter in the face, because they didn't see it and she only had a little red mark. Literally laughed. The knife, less so, but again, "Well, we didn't SEE it, so..."

I cannot STAND the "jury of your peers" thing. It's not true! "Peers" would involve people who knew the people involved so they could make a valid judgment based on precedent and behavior. "Impartiality" has no place in matters such as these. In the eyes of the "impartial" law, he's a generous old coot and we're freeloaders, despite the fact that his own wife has BEGGED them to get him the f*ck out because he's even pushed her around more than once, and they've repeatedly refused. Mostly because he was a Marine once upon a time. The ONE time I got involved, *I* did the time for it. So I can't even protect them without risking being arrested, because they just do not give a sh*t at all. "His name is on the lease, he can threaten or beat up whoever he wants. What YOU guys can't do, is put hands on HIM or you go to jail." Pretty sure that isn't true, BUT, I'm not the one wearing the badge, and they've said it SO many times, that... well...

But that's what I mean about "being judged by a jury of my peers". Find twelve people who KNOW this guy, and put them in those chairs. Let me end him, for the good of all humanity, and all twelve of those people will say, "Oh, THANK GOD he's gone, give this man a medal and a parade!" That's the truth. BUT. To an "impartial" judge and jury, I'd be some punk who murdered a defenseless old man, rather than a hero who set people free from living under the tyranny of a monster. And I'd be punished. That's not justice. "Justice" would be me twisting off his head for even threatening to hit my f*cking wife. But I can't do that.

So yeah, we're stuck in lockdown with a f*cking monster indefinitely because some f*ckwit ate a diseased wild animal for ha-ha's. I am NOT in a good f*cking mood.

[Voltron]

Is there no way to tape him? You have a phone or some kind of recording device?

The story of police inaction in these cases tends to be pretty common. There's a lot that goes on in that, none of which is going to be particularly helpful to you.

If you can record the guy in some way (which doesn't sound like it'd be that difficult) then it would give a better foundation for pressing charges.

[Leo656]

Actually the last time he pulled the knife gimmick, like a year or two ago, my wife had him on camera, thus why he actually got arrested (they actually barged in with guns drawn for that one). Nothing came of it, though. "Catch and release". Didn't even pay a fine for making Terroristic Threats. I've paid THOUSANDS of dollars in my life just for f*cking yelling at people. Dude gets caught on camera waving a knife around and saying he's gonna kill someone with it, and the best thing the cops can say is, "Well, next time maybe let him cut you a little, you'll have a better case."

When he slapped her, she was apparently on her way out of the bathroom and didn't see it coming. And likewise, she was in the bathroom when he came at me with the knife and thus didn't get to catch him. She's been apologizing over and over but I'm like, "It's not your fault, this isn't normal and thus you couldn't have predicted it."

We'd pretty much just have to hide a camera and let it run 24/7 because he tries hard to play the fool when he gets caught in the act.

His wife doesn't wanna lose the house so she's been more lenient than he deserves with this sh*t, despite hating his guts. She's getting old, doesn't wanna downsize because we have a big chunk of property... I mean, I get it. She wants SOME stability, but him even being here is counter to that. They pretty much live in separate rooms and hardly interact. And he plays the shared mortgage for all it's worth, too; whenever he gets arrested or taken away, he just reminds her that he can stop signing over his check, so she lets him come home. And the cops remind her, "You can press charges, but you're gonna lose the house if you do." So she never does. She had a restraining order a few months ago, but again, she had to drop it.

I think she'd just rather have him die, and then we have to move because of THAT, rather than be forced to give it all up because of his sick little games. He's supposedly got some kind of tumor on his liver so the three of us are hoping like hell that it finally does the job. Not soon enough for me. People like that, miserable, hate-filled people who get off on other peoples' suffering and misery, seem to live figuratively forever.

Like, if you ask him WHY he acts like this, it's "Because I can! It's MY house!" And legally, yeah, that's all that matters. My own Dad used to pull similar sh*t and even when I was a minor they never did sh*t to stop it. I once had a Prosecutor tell me, "As far as I'm concerned, your Dad could beat you to death and I wouldn't punish him for it, I'd assume he had a good reason for it, because he's your Dad and you're just a punk kid as far as I know. That's how it was in my day, and the way it should be now." And that's a guy responsible for the enforcement of the laws, who advises the judges on how to sentence! If that doesn't completely wreck any and all faith you may have in "The System", well then I don't know. That was pretty much when I officially threw up my hands and started following my own "law", since the real one ain't good for jack sh*t.

Like, I "behave" because I don't like being in jail, and don't feel like I deserve to be there. But not because I have any respect whatsoever for anyone wearing a uniform or a badge, I absolutely do not. Those people are worth less even than the meaningless words on paper that my taxes pay them to ignore completely. "The Law" says that I'd be a criminal for killing this guy; common sense says I'd be a hero.

Regardless, I wouldn't get my own film franchise for doing the right thing, I'd just rot in some sh*thole. Because that's what's "fair". And people wonder why I don't believe in things.

I don't know. "One day at a time," right? But if it's THIS bad already, then Jesus, I don't know how we're gonna last X weeks like this.

Guess we'll find out. Sigh. People living in China (ones who haven't been censored by the government) swear the situation hasn't improved one bit, that the "recovery" is all a PR smokescreen, and U.S. officials are saying there could be widespread shortages for up to 18 months. Still no word on when this sh*t's supposed to ease up. Nobody knows anything.

I kinda wish the Mayans were right. Everything's been pretty sh*tty after 2012 anyway. That would've been a great time to pull the plug. This show sucks.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Holy $hit, man.

[Leo656]

And you know me better than most!

It is what it is. Until society stops coddling "addicts" and starts treating it like Stupid People Making Other People Suffer For Their Own Bad Choices and not like THEY're the ones who need "help", things like this will always happen.

I think the band Stormtroopers Of Death said it best:

"Junkie, crackhead, drugged-out punk
Sleeping in the dirt and piss
Scheming of a better way
Sh*t out of luck, he needs his fix
Dirty, stinky, smelly bum
Rotten teeth and bleeding gums
Lying, crying 'Always me'
Wanter of everything, everything free

Why should I care, or shed a tear?
Life isn't fair, life isn't sweet
Return to the dirt and piss where you sleep
With free dirty needles
And your rotten teeth... go!

Put it off, procrastinator
Jacking off, alley masturbation
Burden on society
Working to fulfill your only true need
Windshield washer, candy man
Garbage picker, counting cans
Bumming change from you and me
And claims he's the victim of society

Free Dirty Needles!

Dirty like you
Push hard to stick
Pincushion prick

Free Dirty Needles for you!"


Granted, This One is "merely" an alcoholic, but if you live with or interact with enough of these people for long enough, you see right through the bullsh*t and that it's all just one flavor of nonsense with a different color of sprinkles on it.

Nobody's an "addict"; they just care more about their own fun and games and don't care who they hurt. They know they're all gonna turn out like this, they just don't care. Our job to deal with it, our job to enable them. I say, round 'em all up and pull the f*cking switch.

But then, I'm simply not very "nice".

[AquaParade]

So what do y'all think of the stimulus proposals?

[Leo656]

Interesting idea. Emergencies are emergencies, after all. We'll see how it actually plays out.

The in-laws pay the mortgage so I'm mostly just worried about food. Thus, the stores being mostly closed and not having anything on the shelves right now worries me the most. No use having money I can't spend, after all. Also don't have a bank account, little bit concerned about how I'm gonna cash any checks that do come my way. But I'm sure there'll be something in place. I *think* the local check cashers are still open, at least part-time? I'unno, we'll see.

I hope the hoarding and panic buying subsides soon, but... it won't. Like it's nice that everyone might get a "free" check outta this whole fiasco, but people gotta eat. Can't eat money. One of the local independent wrestling promotions organized a food drive, that was pretty neat to see.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Interesting idea. Emergencies are emergencies, after all. We'll see how it actually plays out.

The in-laws pay the mortgage so I'm mostly just worried about food. Thus, the stores being mostly closed and not having anything on the shelves right now worries me the most. No use having money I can't spend, after all. Also don't have a bank account, little bit concerned about how I'm gonna cash any checks that do come my way. But I'm sure there'll be something in place. I *think* the local check cashers are still open, at least part-time? I'unno, we'll see.

I hope the hoarding and panic buying subsides soon, but... it won't. Like it's nice that everyone might get a "free" check outta this whole fiasco, but people gotta eat. Can't eat money. One of the local independent wrestling promotions organized a food drive, that was pretty neat to see.

Yeah, money's not really the biggest problem. Food (and toilet paper) is. And if stores close... what, are we supposed to wipe our @ss with the check because we can't get into the stores to buy stuff?

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by Leo656

But not because I have any respect whatsoever for anyone wearing a uniform or a badge, I absolutely do not

It what happens when the requirements for being a cop in the States are hilariously low, and got super short education period.