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Old 11-01-2015, 03:03 PM   #1
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The Turtle's Love interests

Now that it's officially Canon for all four, is it safe to discuss the love interests with those who are interested?

It seems only yesterday that Don saw April and fell for her. It's been a long road for Donnie, but I think they are finally starting a realistic relationship based on mutual respect and friendship. April has been doing more with Donnie here in the last few episodes. They were cute together in this recent episode, but it was downplayed due to Raph and Mona. It helps that April has really become more likable here lately. I'm not sure what it is about her now though.

Leo and Karai started off hot the moment they met, but outside of her almost kissing him, we do not know where Karai stood with him really. She seemed to hit on Raph a few times too. And then there is the whole "sibling" situation as well. Leo has pined for her for a long time now, but I don't know if we will ever see anything close to what Raph and Mona just had. Someone mentioned that he actually said he loved her, but I don't recall that scene myself.

Mikey and Renet were fun. I never thought Mikey could be romantic, but he pulled it off perfectly. I just love Renet and thought they were fantastic together. Mikey's ability to not be afraid of saying what he feels moved that relationship forward quickly. In a lot of ways it was a lot like Raph and Mona, only with cuteness not aggression. With that being said, did Renet really return his feelings?

Now we have Raph and Mona, while I personally would have liked it to evolve slowly over a few episodes, I guess it worked out crammed into one episode. At times it was realistic and at times it was too rushed, but I guess you could fall for someone fast. Raph is known for rushing into things without thinking, so maybe this is perfect for his personality. Mona was a bit too uncaring at first, but she soon changed her mind about him.

Their relationship depends on what happens in the end. Will the guys revert back to their old selves once they stop the Triceratrons? And if so, will they lose their memories too? Will she come looking for Raph and discover he doesn't care for her or remember her anymore? Will they then start over more slowly the next time? There are a lot of possibilities that the other turtles do not have to deal with. It should be interesting to see what they do.
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Old 11-01-2015, 03:08 PM   #2
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I'm not really interested in shipping in TMNT, but for what I think will happen:

- Mona Lisa will get two or so more appearances while they're in space. She and Raph will interact the same. After that who knows if she'll be seen again once they return to Earth.

- Renet/Mikey is clearly just a joke. Renet sees Mikey as a little kid. Its puppy dog crush.

- Leo/Karai is just going to be sibling rivalry.

- Don/April should have been killed off by now, but it obviously won't go anywhere.
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Old 11-01-2015, 03:24 PM   #3
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Brandon has confirmed that Mona and Sal do appear in at least another episode so already this 'Ramona' has outlived the 80s one night stand
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Old 11-01-2015, 03:27 PM   #4
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I hinted at it when ranting about Mona's debut, but might as well state what I need to say and then take a rest from the drome.

Kelo: This is the only relationship I feel the show has done right, especially pulling the twists throughout the story. What started out as a flirting relationship by the deceiving Karai turned into Leo developing as a character. I loved this story and though it would be disgusting if the two were together, it was a damn good pairing for its drama and development. By far the best of the show.

Dapril/Capril/love triangle: Honestly never been too bothered by the relationship, although Donnie felt shallow starting out. The problem is the prolonged decision of April O'Neil and the writing that makes me annoyed. At one minute progress is made, but then the following episode the development takes two steps back. It has its moments, but really needs a conclusion from the stupidity the relationship can be.

Renet + Michelangelo: Can't think of a decent name, but my gosh this "shipping" is atrocious. Besides the typical Greg Cipes and Ashley Johnson pair up in every cartoon together, this really made me dislike Mikey. Mike was extremely shallow because in comparison to Don who grew to love April and Leo with Karai, what does Michelangelo see in this woman? I see nothing because the whole thing is a one sided mess with Mikey having the cliche love at first sight trope, a very horrible plot device that I ever see. By far the worst relationship of the series; even if it gets better when Renet returns, I still consider it the worst of the show.

Mona and Raph: It's only the first episode before I can fully judge it; despite being the second best so far easily, the road for this one is feels stupid. Raph in comparison to Mikey and Donnie when starting out had a reason for liking Mona Lisa, but the whole episode had him out of character. For now, the handling in the episode of Raph being teased was atrocious and unfair and it feels just as rushed if not worse than Don or Mikey's feelings.

Overall, I don't like these relationships at all. They are extremely contrived and idiotic outside the fan service for shipping and I can't find myself investing in the characters, especially with Don's handling or Mikey's at all. Leo is fine, but I'm hoping to God Raph can fair decently in comparison to his younger brothers. Given his treatment though throughout the series, I won't hold my breath.
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Old 11-01-2015, 03:30 PM   #5
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Someone mentioned that he actually said he loved her, but I don't recall that scene myself.
Well Leo didn't actually say he loved Karai, but the dialogue from the beginning of the episode Turtles in time, implied he still has romantic feelings towards her.

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Raph: Give it up Leo. There's nothing we could do. It's been weeks since we last saw her. When she poisoned us.

Donnie: Yeah Leo if I can't find a cure we might will have to let Karai go.

Leo: It's not that easy Donnie. You should know.

Mikey: Because you're still hang up with April. Just a guess.

Leo: Sometimes you don't have a choice. You think about someone. A lot.
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Old 11-01-2015, 03:52 PM   #6
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May as well weigh in on this one.

Issues with interspecies relationships aside, I think its a good thing that the show isnt afraid to tackle these kinds of things - they are teenagers and going through relationships like this is part of growing up.

I do feel like the show is trying to almost forcibly put each one of them in a different kind of relationship though;

Don / April felt at first like it was aiming for unrequited love. After FTB its harder to say and it may be they are possibly changing it to a slow grow romance between two friends - complicated by Casey.

Leo / Karai was flirting with the enemy. But the sibling angle and later events complicated that somewhat. I think this is likely to turn into the future 'unrequited/broken heart' romance arc of the show.

Mikey / Renet was classic puppy dog crush. I dont think 'romance' is the right word here. I'd say Renet was flattered but not interested, and Mikey would get over the disappointment of a let down quite quickly.

Raph / Mona I cant comment on precisely because I have yet to see the episode myself, but from the sounds of things it seems like the set up for a whirlwind romance scenario - likely to end in break up or tragedy.
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Old 11-01-2015, 04:03 PM   #7
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What about Shredder's love...

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Old 11-01-2015, 04:22 PM   #8
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Raph only develops feelings on Mona AFTER she's beaten him and his brothers to a pulp.

He likes her strength and agility. He doesn't seem to feel threatened by a female that is arguably better in combat than himself.

It kind of goes against the machotistic tendencies he sometimes has. Raph always HAS to be the best fighter. He's very competitive. And he's also quite dismissive when April tries to class herself as a kunoichi.

But he also recognises skills when shown. He admitted to Leo that he could see why his brother found Karai hot. Clearly this wasn't just based on her looks, but her skills as a fighter.

It sort of seperates him and his brothers.

Whereas Leo, Mikey and Donnie start their crushes off based on looks, which are then backed up with various skills, Raph starts his crush off based on the skills and ability. And after that, Mona could have battle scars all across her face and an eye missing, he'd still probably have the hots for her.
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Old 11-01-2015, 04:25 PM   #9
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Raph only develops feelings on Mona AFTER she's beaten him and his brothers to a pulp.

He likes her strength and agility. He doesn't seem to feel threatened by a female that is arguably better in combat than himself.

It kind of goes against the machotistic tendencies he sometimes has. Raph always HAS to be the best fighter. He's very competitive. And he's also quite dismissive when April tries to class herself as a kunoichi.

But he also recognises skills when shown. He admitted to Leo that he could see why his brother found Karai hot. Clearly this wasn't just based on her looks, but her skills as a fighter.

It sort of seperates him and his brothers.

Whereas Leo, Mikey and Donnie start their crushes off based on looks, which are then backed up with various skills, Raph starts his crush off based on the skills and ability. And after that, Mona could have battle scars all across her face and an eye missing, he'd still probably have the hots for her.
Plus Raph knows he's a mutant turtle and never found humans attractive to him.
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Old 11-01-2015, 04:53 PM   #10
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I don't like any of them.

April and Donnie......I don't enjoy April and Donnie's friendship so I don't enjoy Donnie's crush. April and Donnie just don't seem compatible to me.....like they don't seem like they would hang unless April is forced to.

Karai and Leo are siblings now....(or at least half siblings right?? Yamato gave the turtles some of his DNA right....I don't know...) Either way I feel like Karai would be better as a free agent. (Tired of these men ruining her life)

Mikey and Renet.......wasn't that bad....it helps that Renet was pretty cool...but I didn't find it that great. (love at first sight again)

Mona and Raph....don't know....haven't watched the episode but I am tired of these guys falling in love with every girl they meet.
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Old 11-01-2015, 04:56 PM   #11
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Whereas Leo...start their crushes off based on looks
Wouldn't really agree on that sentiment about Leo, imo it seemed to be Karai being his equal in skill that seemed to catch his interest at the onset. (And seems to be kind of a normal thing for him in the franchise in general anyhow.)

Though I never felt that she returned his feelings... she's just aware of it and has seemed to like toying with him a little over it.


Donnie... that friend who likes you and you put up with and ignore it to avoid awkwardness. Raph... eesh... could be interesting to see where it goes, but too fast. >.< Mikey... that's just funny imo, so far it just feels like it's a kid brother crushing on an older sibling's friend, minus that part existing. lol

Leo... be a worthy opponent, nearly kick his butt, and he may end up worshiping the ground you walk on. This guy has zero insecurities over the idea of being "beaten by a girl," some could learn from him.

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Old 11-01-2015, 05:01 PM   #12
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Issues with interspecies relationships aside, I think its a good thing that the show isnt afraid to tackle these kinds of things - they are teenagers and going through relationships like this is part of growing up.

I do feel like the show is trying to almost forcibly put each one of them in a different kind of relationship though
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Sounds like amatonormativity to me; would've been better if their friendships develop naturally first before then.
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Old 11-01-2015, 05:04 PM   #13
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Like most other things regarding this show, the romance isn't worth taking seriously, especially with the turtles. Aside from maybe Leo/Karai, most turtle romances here are intended for comedic value at best.

Casey is obviously April's "real" love interest while Renet and Mona Lisa probably won't show up in that many episodes. Karai with Leo... It might be the closest to one of the Turtles having a serious romance but I get the feeling it won't go anywhere.

I sort of hate to bring up the IDW comics again but if you want something akin to romance, go read that instead of watching this cartoon. There isn't much romance or shipping but characters are shown to form relationships have been given romantic backgrounds. Hell there's even two lesbians in there!
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Old 11-01-2015, 10:29 PM   #14
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Like most other things regarding this show, the romance isn't worth taking seriously, especially with the turtles. Aside from maybe Leo/Karai, most turtle romances here are intended for comedic value at best.

Casey is obviously April's "real" love interest while Renet and Mona Lisa probably won't show up in that many episodes. Karai with Leo... It might be the closest to one of the Turtles having a serious romance but I get the feeling it won't go anywhere.

I sort of hate to bring up the IDW comics again but if you want something akin to romance, go read that instead of watching this cartoon. There isn't much romance or shipping but characters are shown to form relationships have been given romantic backgrounds. Hell there's even two lesbians in there!
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/...20150806183156
There isn't much romance, but I really love the way Raph is with Alopex. She just feels right for him, but I fear there are going to be complications soon.
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Old 11-02-2015, 03:13 AM   #15
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I have mentioned once that Donnie/April/Casey love triangle to me is the least interesting thing about the show.

Apritello...I could go on and on about this, but I won't. In short I don't like how they handled April/Donnie relationship so far. To me, it looks like as of right now at least, April loves Donnie only as her best friend, not the way he wants her to.
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Old 11-02-2015, 03:26 AM   #16
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Leo and Long-Neck Alien is my otp.
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Old 11-02-2015, 05:12 AM   #17
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Leo and Long-Neck Alien is my otp.
her name is Valaxena and her boyfriend the big harry monster was called Chupo in the episode. it is possible we may see both again. Particularly since they are voiced by Mae Whitman and Keven Michael Richardson respectively.
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Old 11-02-2015, 06:35 AM   #18
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Really? I thought that alien chick was voiced by Lucy Lawless. It sounded like her to me.

Okay, let me weigh in on this:

Leorai: I've always been a fan of this pairing. Many say that because she's Splinter's daughter now that it can't happen, but I think it can. After all, we don't know if Splinter touched the Turtles before they mutated. They could have gotten the human DNA from the pet shop owner as the owner probably touched them and transferred them to the bowl. When Splinter was holding them, they were in the bowl, so he wasn't touching them at all. If this is the case, then Leorai can still happen and I think it should. It would be different if Miwa had been raised alongside them for a short time before Shredder took her, but she wasn't raised with them at all. So I'm a fan of this pairing and I hope it works out. And if not, then maybe Leo could fall in love with Lotus if she appears (and I do hope she does).

Apriltello: I'm a fan of this pairing, too, and I thought it was cute how it was started. Sure, Don went too far sometimes, but most of the time, he knew when he crossed the line and was quick to correct himself when it happened. Adding Casey into the mix was the biggest mistake ever because it caused friction between Don and Casey and caused April to lead on both of them. I think it would be great if Apritello became the end game pairing for this as it's something different. Casey could always go to Gabrielle if they brought her in. However, we don't know how this will end and it probably won't be resolved until the end of the series.

Renetangelo: Again, a very cute pairing. Most of the time, I don't believe in love at first sight, but everyone handles love differently. Some feel it when they first meet the person while for others, it takes time for the relationship to evolve. Mikey is the most sociable of the Turtles and the one who really wants things to work out for him. I can see why he'd like her, and she did give him some hope after they parted ways. Yep, I like this pairing.

Ramona (love this name): It was rushed, but I loved how it happened and I do hope that Mona comes back. Raph loved her for her skills and how good of a fighter she was. And maybe now that he's experienced his own chance at love, maybe he'll understand his brothers more and won't tease them for their own interests anymore.

Overall, I'm fine with the romance. Love isn't a bad thing and the Turtles deserve a chance at it themselves.
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Old 11-02-2015, 10:39 AM   #19
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I'm not really interested in shipping in TMNT, but for what I think will happen:

- Mona Lisa will get two or so more appearances while they're in space. She and Raph will interact the same. After that who knows if she'll be seen again once they return to Earth.

- Renet/Mikey is clearly just a joke. Renet sees Mikey as a little kid. Its puppy dog crush.

- Leo/Karai is just going to be sibling rivalry.

- Don/April should have been killed off by now, but it obviously won't go anywhere.
Agreed. Honestly, if anything, I love April and Donnie as really dorky best friends. Who knows, maybe they'll cut it off at the end of this season....
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Old 11-02-2015, 02:07 PM   #20
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Apritello/Capril: It has it's moments. There are plenty of times when they seem like they enjoy each others company (April and Donnie in the space market last episode) and have cute moments together. Then there are times when April is flat out bothered or made uncomfortable by them (April's jumpsuit and the group hug last episode) which just sort of makes me feel sorry for what April has to put up with at times, especially since this is season 3 already and after episodes like A Foot Too Big. So for me, this love triangle is constantly one step forward, one step back. If we didn't get moments where April was shown as being annoyed by them every so often, I think I'd like this love triangle just a little more. Although it doesn't help that it feels like it's making very little progress overall.

Leo/Karai: I like how it's been handled overall. I'm not sure how Karai feels about Leo, but I like how many turns they've gone through and how they've progressed.

Mikey/Renet: It's puppy love, and that's all I think I'll ever see it as. It's cute, though not something I really needed to happen in the series.

Raph/Mona: I really, really like that it's reciprocated on both sides. I also really, really like how sweet and sincere Raph is towards her. This relationship overall, despite being fast, is a nice change from the norm and I like it a lot. Shame it wasn't taken just a tiny bit slower.

Also Raph is the best at talking with girls. Raph>Mikey>Donnie>Leo
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