Is there any hope for Ghostbusters 3?

[U2WaTCHer]

after reading about the new DVDs and I heard about the new comic coming out a while back. I would hope they would make a Ghostbusters 3. I know it would do good even T3 did good and that came out many years after T2 (Terminator). Those acters arent geting any younger. I can't believe how much Bill Murry aged since Groundhogs day

[DrSpengler]

None what-so-ever.

There's a dozen factors as to why it'll never happen, but the leading one is two words: Bill Murray.

He owns a 5th of the franchise, and a third film CANNOT be made without his consent. And he won't give it. About 10 years ago Dan Aykroyd wrote a script treatment (that was supposedly awful) and Bill said he never wanted to do it.

Another problem with Murray is that he doesn't do sequels. Ever. Ghostbusters II is the ONLY sequel he has ever been in and he got panned for it by critics. That's why he wasn't in Charlie's Angels 2 and there most likely won't be a Garfield 2 (at least with him in it).


Personally, the time for a Ghostbusters III is long gone. Have you SEEN Harold Ramis lately? He looks more like Roger Ebert than Egon. Everyone's just gotten too old. And if they tried to do a "predecesors" type of story (like Dan's old GBIII script) people would make too many parallels to the awful Extreme Ghostbusters cartoon and the project would be doomed from the start.

The only hope for a new Ghostbusters film is a remake, which I honestly wouldn't mind. The first 2 films will always be there and they'll never get any less funny with age. But sometimes it's hard to realize that actors do grow old and get wrinkles as time goes by, and they just don't looke like they did back in 84.

Ghostbusters is just one of those really brilliant concepts that'll withstand the test of time, and a remake could be very fun.

[The Stryker]

If they get the right people.

Imagine Johnny Knoxville and Ashton Kutcher.

Dave Chappelle would've been a good choice for the black guy but he's too big now and the movie would be all about him.

[KROW]

A remake would indeed be a great idea. For Venkman, you'd need a smart-ass who can't take things seriously. Stryker's nod to Knoxville is a good choice there. For Stanz, you need a guy who loves adventure and is capable of getting picked on. Seann William Scott would be a nice choice here. For the great Egon Spengler, you have to have your typical and wiry-thin science geek. I think DJ Qualls is perfect. Now Winston? Mike Epps or Charlie Murphy would be apt for that role, I believe.

Perhaps if Murray allowed the film to be made without his actually being in it, it might happen. Give him a producer credit and it'd be possible.

[The Stryker]

Charlie Murphy is one scary looking dude. not ugly, just scary like he just got out of jail and he's looking for someone

[KROW]

Originally Posted by Stryker

Charlie Murphy is one scary looking dude. not ugly, just scary like he just got out of jail and he's looking for someone

Heh. Then he'd surely personify the phrase, "I ain't 'fraid o' no ghosts!"

[DrSpengler]

Well, here's how I look at casting;

Back in the 80's there was a tight-nit group of comedy actors who always starred in movies together. Rick Moranis, Dan Aykroyd, Harold Ramis, John Candy, Bill Murray and a few others. Mostly guys from SNL and SCTV. But it was always them in various combinations.

That was one of the beautiful things about Ghostbsuters and why the movie worked so well; these guys knew each other, worked with each other, and knew exactly how to play off one another. They just knew how to interact.

Well, what have we got today? There's the Vince Vaugn, Owen Wilson, Will Ferral, Ben Stiller guys. They've got the same sort of thing going like the SNL/SCTV guys did back in the day and their comedy flicks are VERY popular (and usually, very funny).

My casting?

Peter: Owen Wilson (He can play the suave-yet-stupid character very well. I could definately see him as Peter trying to woo Dana, especially after Wedding Crashers)

Egon: Vince Vaugn (Vaugn is an excellent straightman, but his straightmen always have their own eccentrisities to them. Put a pair of glasses on him and he'd be Egon all over)

Ray: Will Ferral (provided he doesn't try to steal the show, he'd be perfect. Ray's supposed to be somewhat of a "child trapped in a man's body" and Ferral knows how to act childishly giddy)

Louis: Ben Stiller (he can play the nerd when need-be; he's very versitile. He'd probably be a hilarious neighbor; a total loser trying to hopelessly get with Dana)

Winston: Orlando Jones (I guess he's not really part of their group, but he's my ideal Winston. Winston isn't supposed to be some off-the-wall Black supremict ghetto gangsta muthaf*cka. He's just a NORMAL guy. Amidst all the whackiness of Ghostbusting he's supposed to provide the voice of reason. Orland would be perfect)


That's my thoughts on casting.

[Weapon X]

Originally Posted by KROW

A remake would indeed be a great idea. For Venkman, you'd need a smart-ass who can't take things seriously. Stryker's nod to Knoxville is a good choice there. For Stanz, you need a guy who loves adventure and is capable of getting picked on. Seann William Scott would be a nice choice here. For the great Egon Spengler, you have to have your typical and wiry-thin science geek. I think DJ Qualls is perfect. Now Winston? Mike Epps or Charlie Murphy would be apt for that role, I believe.

I was just thinking about what a cast would be for a remake before this thread was made and thats pretty much what I thought too.

[Turtledude2k3]

I don't think there will ever be a chance for a new Ghostbusters movie..

With the 2 dvd set coming out tomorrow, I am defiently picking it up for the first time on dvd and also will have 2 episodes from the RGB cartoon.

Considered to be just 2 episodes, it may give a chance to see the rest of the cartoon on dvd.

[DrSpengler]

I'd be more interested in a new Ghostbusters cartoon series, just animated really well telling darker stories. It doesn't have to follow Real/Slimer&/Extreme continuity, it can go ahead and be a complete reimagining.

I just want something. After the retards at 88MPH dropped the ball with the comic book, new Ghostbusters stuff is nothing but a distant dream.

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

I'm all for the remake but here's MY casting...

Gary Coleman wearing various hats!

[KROW]

Originally Posted by Tetsu Deinonychus

I'm all for the remake but here's MY casting...

Gary Coleman wearing various hats!

Huh?

Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Tetsu?

[The Stryker]

GHOSTBUSTERS!!

[Mikey the Party Turtle]

Originally Posted by DrSpengler

I'd be more interested in a new Ghostbusters cartoon series, just animated really well telling darker stories. It doesn't have to follow Real/Slimer&/Extreme continuity, it can go ahead and be a complete reimagining.

Exactly what I think. Screw a remake, make a new cartoon. Have it more like the earlier RGB episodes, only darker. Maybe have the guys smoke (I dunno if they would allow that on kiddie network blocks or not.) and have multiple-episode arcs instead of standard one episode forumulas.

[TigerClaw]

If they were to do a Ghostbusters 3, I think the best solution is to get at least some of the returning characters, But this time, They are training a new generation of Ghostbusters?

[Lord Nightwalker]

Man, I'd be happy if they would do anything with the Ghostbusters. They should. That property has so many possabilities, much like the TMNT or Dracula, the potential is classicaly endless. I'd settle for a new TMNT game. But no matter what, It has to be done well. First and foremost, It's quality should be as good as possible. But what do I know? I liked Shaun of the Dead too.

[DrSpengler]

Originally Posted by Mikey the Party Turtle

Exactly what I think. Screw a remake, make a new cartoon. Have it more like the earlier RGB episodes, only darker. Maybe have the guys smoke (I dunno if they would allow that on kiddie network blocks or not.) and have multiple-episode arcs instead of standard one episode forumulas.

Pretty much, sans the smoking thing (88MPH caught Hell for putting cigarettes in theit miniseries, if you can believe that).

I wouldn't mind it being something aimmed at a Toonami timeslot. It doesn't have to be a hardcore HBO miniseries. Adult-oriented cartoons tend to fail in America unless they're anime or a poorly animated comedy show on Adult Swim.

A Ghostbusters toon can still be dark AND aimmed at kids. You just have to know your boundaries and not get gratuitous for the sake of it. Real Ghostbusters was great when it came to creepiness.

"Knock Knock"

An entire trainload of people die and come back as zombies when the lights flicker on and off. Lost souls are seen rowing a boat out of Hell with Death as their Captain.

"The GHostbusters in Paris"

Tourist's Wife: Look, honey! There's a man in period clothing!

Tourist: Excuse me, sir, would you mind posing or a picture with my wife?

Ghost: Why certainly, just be sure to get me from my *face melts off, revealing a gorey skull* Good side!!

"Partners in Slime"

A ghostly elevator operator lifts up his hat but his head comes off with it. His skull then slides out of his skin and plops on his gaping neck.


Stuff like that. They just replaced the blood with slime and it was all okay. I mean, look at kid's programming today. There aren't any supernatural cartoons on anymore. Just animes based on card games. And Martin Mystery doesn't count because it sucks.

And in regards to multiparter, the genius thing about Real Ghostbusters that kept the show so fresh for all those years was that it was completely episodic. The Ghostbusters faced a new challenge every episode which kept things original and creative. In TMNT the turtles always fought Shredder, in Transformers the Autobots always fought the Decepticons, in GI Joe the good guys always fougth Cobra, etc. In Real Ghostbusters you never knew WHAT they were going to fight next episode. It was always a surprise. And the most popular villains got to make comebacks every now and then (though, admittedly, not enough since writers had a Hell of a time figuring out ways for the ghosts to escape the contianment unit).

I do agree that there should be some multi part stories. Did you know that there wasn't a single multi parter in all of the Real Ghostbsuters' 6 seasons? Extreme Ghostbusters managed to have 2, though; the series premiere and the series finale.

[Mikey the Party Turtle]

Originally Posted by DrSpengler

Pretty much, sans the smoking thing (88MPH caught Hell for putting cigarettes in theit miniseries, if you can believe that).

That's...odd...next thing y'know, parents will go after Mr. Fantastic for smoking a pipe in the early Kirby/Lee days.

I wouldn't mind it being something aimmed at a Toonami timeslot. It doesn't have to be a hardcore HBO miniseries. Adult-oriented cartoons tend to fail in America unless they're anime or a poorly animated comedy show on Adult Swim.

Oh, don't get me wrong. I don't want it to be adult-oriented. I just want it to be handled maturely, like the early RGB episodes.

A Ghostbusters toon can still be dark AND aimmed at kids. You just have to know your boundaries and not get gratuitous for the sake of it. Real Ghostbusters was great when it came to creepiness.

Not to mention kinda scary for the younger crowd.

"Knock Knock"

An entire trainload of people die and come back as zombies when the lights flicker on and off. Lost souls are seen rowing a boat out of Hell with Death as their Captain.

Y'know...I never noticed that all the people on the train were killed. Knock Knock is definitley one of my favorite episodes though.

"The GHostbusters in Paris"

Tourist's Wife: Look, honey! There's a man in period clothing!

Tourist: Excuse me, sir, would you mind posing or a picture with my wife?

Ghost: Why certainly, just be sure to get me from my *face melts off, revealing a gorey skull* Good side!!

I actually just saw this episode recently and that scene shocked the hell out of me. I couldn't believe they got away with that.

"Partners in Slime"

A ghostly elevator operator lifts up his hat but his head comes off with it. His skull then slides out of his skin and plops on his gaping neck.

Not as shocking as GB in Paris, still kinda gross.

Stuff like that. They just replaced the blood with slime and it was all okay. I mean, look at kid's programming today. There aren't any supernatural cartoons on anymore. Just animes based on card games. And Martin Mystery doesn't count because it sucks.

Thank. God. Someone else hates that horrible anime rip-off.

And in regards to multiparter, the genius thing about Real Ghostbusters that kept the show so fresh for all those years was that it was completely episodic. The Ghostbusters faced a new challenge every episode which kept things original and creative. In TMNT the turtles always fought Shredder, in Transformers the Autobots always fought the Decepticons, in GI Joe the good guys always fougth Cobra, etc. In Real Ghostbusters you never knew WHAT they were going to fight next episode. It was always a surprise. And the most popular villains got to make comebacks every now and then (though, admittedly, not enough since writers had a Hell of a time figuring out ways for the ghosts to escape the contianment unit).

It's just that I wish that there'd be a two or even three-parter once in awhile to break up the single episode stories.

I do agree that there should be some multi part stories. Did you know that there wasn't a single multi parter in all of the Real Ghostbsuters' 6 seasons? Extreme Ghostbusters managed to have 2, though; the series premiere and the series finale.

Yeah, I always found that odd. Even the old TMNT had multi-part episodes. And wasn't the "series finale" originally going to lead the RGBs working with EGBs for the rest of the series? (If it wasn't cancelled.) Still, it was nice seeing the guys again, even if Dave Couiler did Peter's voice. (R.I.P. Lorenzo Music...)

[Turtledude2k3]

Originally Posted by DrSpengler

Pretty much, sans the smoking thing (88MPH caught Hell for putting cigarettes in theit miniseries, if you can believe that).

I wouldn't mind it being something aimmed at a Toonami timeslot. It doesn't have to be a hardcore HBO miniseries. Adult-oriented cartoons tend to fail in America unless they're anime or a poorly animated comedy show on Adult Swim.

A Ghostbusters toon can still be dark AND aimmed at kids. You just have to know your boundaries and not get gratuitous for the sake of it. Real Ghostbusters was great when it came to creepiness.

"Knock Knock"

An entire trainload of people die and come back as zombies when the lights flicker on and off. Lost souls are seen rowing a boat out of Hell with Death as their Captain.

"The GHostbusters in Paris"

Tourist's Wife: Look, honey! There's a man in period clothing!

Tourist: Excuse me, sir, would you mind posing or a picture with my wife?

Ghost: Why certainly, just be sure to get me from my *face melts off, revealing a gorey skull* Good side!!

"Partners in Slime"

A ghostly elevator operator lifts up his hat but his head comes off with it. His skull then slides out of his skin and plops on his gaping neck.


Stuff like that. They just replaced the blood with slime and it was all okay. I mean, look at kid's programming today. There aren't any supernatural cartoons on anymore. Just animes based on card games. And Martin Mystery doesn't count because it sucks.

And in regards to multiparter, the genius thing about Real Ghostbusters that kept the show so fresh for all those years was that it was completely episodic. The Ghostbusters faced a new challenge every episode which kept things original and creative. In TMNT the turtles always fought Shredder, in Transformers the Autobots always fought the Decepticons, in GI Joe the good guys always fougth Cobra, etc. In Real Ghostbusters you never knew WHAT they were going to fight next episode. It was always a surprise. And the most popular villains got to make comebacks every now and then (though, admittedly, not enough since writers had a Hell of a time figuring out ways for the ghosts to escape the contianment unit).

I do agree that there should be some multi part stories. Did you know that there wasn't a single multi parter in all of the Real Ghostbsuters' 6 seasons? Extreme Ghostbusters managed to have 2, though; the series premiere and the series finale.

That was a very good reply, Dr. Spengler.. In fact I believe I would buy the real ghostbusters dvd if they ever release one..

[Tetsu Deinonychus]

Originally Posted by DrSpengler

I wouldn't mind it being something aimmed at a Toonami timeslot. It doesn't have to be a hardcore HBO miniseries. Adult-oriented cartoons tend to fail in America unless they're anime or a poorly animated comedy show on Adult Swim.

Actually, I think an Adult Ghostbusters cartoon would do well if done right. We're the generation (I'm assuming you're 20-something) that watches adult cartoons. If they based it directly off the movies and had the character's look like hand-drawn versions of their movie counter-parts, with maybe a touch of resemblence to their old-cartoon selves. They could continue it where the movies left off, essentually making this series Ghostbusters 3. It could have a format simular to Ghost In The Shell: SAC in that it would have episodes to tie in to a big epic plotline and one-shot episodes intermixed. I think it would do well on Adult Swim's action-block with all the anime shows.

It wouldn't have to be any darker than the movies, and I think a TV-14 rated show would be ideal. And, they shouldn't forget the humor. GB is suppossed to be a comedy-horror-adventure show. Venkman MUST be a smartass.

Originally Posted by DrSpengler

A Ghostbusters toon can still be dark AND aimmed at kids. You just have to know your boundaries and not get gratuitous for the sake of it. Real Ghostbusters was great when it came to creepiness.

Well, a decent kids version like we had in the 80s would be the next best thing.

Originally Posted by DrSpengler

Stuff like that. They just replaced the blood with slime and it was all okay. I mean, look at kid's programming today. There aren't any supernatural cartoons on anymore. Just animes based on card games. And Martin Mystery doesn't count because it sucks.

Well, there IS Shaman King. I happen to love Shaman King (the original manga much more than the anime adaptation), and while there is a card-game (f**king EVERYTHING has a card-game) the manga came first.

There's also "Danny Phantom", but it's kinda "eh".

Also, the Yu-Gi-Oh manga came first, then the card-game, THEN the anime. THAT'S the problem. The manga was very dark and supernatural, probably right up your alley. Then they made the card-game, and not being into those I can't tell you if it is good or not, but when they made the anime, they based it off the card game! And, it sucks, really bad!

But what really sucks is that nobody will try out the manga because the anime (a half-hour commercial for the game) sucks so bad. When they have nothing in common. BTW a Yu-Gi-Oh TV show based on the manga would have to be on Adult Swim or the action channel.