Donald Trump Hush money trial

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by robertfiduciary

Alvin Bragg?

But he is a obsessed retard of highest order.

[Cowabung-Gal]

Originally Posted by robertfiduciary

And who can forget President Obama's birth certificate!

Something, something, denial is not just a river in Egypt.

I don’t care about Obama’s birth certificate or his skin color, but I do care about the fact that he’s a corrup, smooth-talking weasel. If Trump is to be thrown in jail, then so should Obama. During his warmongering reign, the guy killed a 16 year old U.S citizen after ordering a drone airstrike on a restaurant in Yemen. And don’t even get me started on the “Fast and Furious” scandal.

[TurtleManiac]

Originally Posted by robertfiduciary

Never heard of the Central Park Five, or the ad DJT placed in the newspaper about the case?

Or the fact he wouldn’t recant his accusations after he was proven so very, very wrong?

Or how he constantly refers to black men as “animals?”

Must be nice, Fox News. Must. Be. Nice.

Originally Posted by robertfiduciary

Oh, wow. You got me. I am off to the burn unit after that. .

I'm sure he was also speaking "broadly" about District Attorney Alvin Bragg?

You know. A specific (black) dude.

And who can forget President Obama's birth certificate!

Something, something, denial is not just a river in Egypt.

Can’t tell if you’re race-baiting or if you are actually racist yourself…

Who wrote the 1994 crime bill that harmed the black community? Who said the n word on live TV? Who held hands with KKK klansmen Robert Byrd?

Hint: it wasn’t DJT. It was the current guy.

And this whole “Trump is racist” cult that you’re in only started when he ran for President against the Democrats and won. Most celebs who influence you are paid shills. Follow the money.

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by TurtleManiac

And this whole “Trump is racist” cult that you’re in only started when he ran for President against the Democrats and won.

People were saying Trump was racist and everything else said today back in the 80s and 90s, just with quieter voices and less outlets to shout it about.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

People were saying Trump was racist and everything else said today back in the 80s and 90s, just with quieter voices and less outlets to shout it about.

How old are you? Ish? Just curious, in quantifying that. I don't mean as an attack. Because I have my own anecdotal stuff from the 80s and 90s I recall a bit of what "the adults" were saying about him.

[IMJ]

The people who call Trump a "racist" do nothing but cite fringe commentary and spin world play for the context they want.

There is actually more concrete evidence out there that Trump has done things for Black People than the there is the fringe "evidence" by haters going through life twisting interpretations to fit their meaning. i.e., Trump going on about Obama's birth certificate is not "racism". Trump criticizing a person who is black is not "racism". Once again these things are more indicative of the worldviews of people like Mayhem and RF than Trump being a "racist".

Basically you guys are so full of $#!( that you must be.... -ahem- brown. And that would make sense too - because the new racism is to call people "racists", but I don't expect people who are dug-in on their own "nonsense to prove" to wrap their heads around that.

[Galactus]

Well he was once successfully sued for discrimination because he wouldn't rent his properties to black people. I'd say that's solid evidence that Trump is a racist.

Of course to deflect from that he immediately started hiring black people in his businesses. It's why he was honoured for his work with African Americans and got his picture with Rosa Parks which his supporters always post as proof he can't possibly be a racist. Personally I would argue that if the only reason you do anything good for black people is to distract from doing a bunch of bad things to them you're probably a racist.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Galactus

Well he was once successfully sued for discrimination because he wouldn't rent his properties to black people. I'd say that's solid evidence that Trump is a racist.

Even if that is evidence that discrimination occurred, it's a pretty huge leap to assume he's there at the forefront personally vetting rentals as part of his day to day. It's like the people saying "Trump Academy was doing shady stuff, it's the same as Trump doing shady stuff himself!" Eh, no. Yeah, he maybe shouldn't be putting his name on stuff that he's not actively vetting but that isn't proof of anything.

[ChosenOne]

Originally Posted by Galactus

Well he was once successfully sued for discrimination because he wouldn't rent his properties to black people. I'd say that's solid evidence that Trump is a racist.

Of course to deflect from that he immediately started hiring black people in his businesses. It's why he was honoured for his work with African Americans and got his picture with Rosa Parks which his supporters always post as proof he can't possibly be a racist. Personally I would argue that if the only reason you do anything good for black people is to distract from doing a bunch of bad things to them you're probably a racist.

Personally I would argue that if your entire portfolio of talking points hinges on race, you're probably a racist.

[TurtleManiac]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

People were saying Trump was racist and everything else said today back in the 80s and 90s, just with quieter voices and less outlets to shout it about.

Not really, he was given a cameo in Home Alone 2, do you really think they would want to have a racist in the movie? He made Pizza Hut great again by introducing stuffed crust, not something a racist would do. Even our very own James “Shredder” Avery, a black man, was friends with the Donald



I wonder if his cameo on Fresh Prince set the precedent for the numerous Trump parodies seen in the ‘87 TMNT cartoon, they even paid homage to “Trumpet Tower” on one of the Slash episodes.

I remember him in 2007 WWE working with Bobby Lashley, a black man, and had nothing but good things to say about him. And over the years throughout the 80’s, 90’s, 2000’s, Trump had alot of black friends, black rappers idolized Trump, lots of pic where he partied with 2pac, Mike Tyson, Snoop etc. meanwhile corrupt career politicians like Biden worked on policies that harm the black community. To suggest that Trump hates black people is disingenuous and rooted in racism and white supremacy of pushing a hateful agenda where the oppressor is labeled as the victim.

Originally Posted by Galactus

Well he was once successfully sued for discrimination because he wouldn't rent his properties to black people. I'd say that's solid evidence that Trump is a racist.

Of course to deflect from that he immediately started hiring black people in his businesses. It's why he was honoured for his work with African Americans and got his picture with Rosa Parks which his supporters always post as proof he can't possibly be a racist. Personally I would argue that if the only reason you do anything good for black people is to distract from doing a bunch of bad things to them you're probably a racist.

Was it specifically black people? Or was it just people with bad credit or couldn’t afford or pass background checks? I haven’t dug too deep into a 40 year old headline. And the pic he took with Rosa Parks and Muhammad Ali was them receiving an award for contributions to inner city black youths. This was around the same time Joe Biden was busy writing the 1994 crime bill to incarcerate black people over the same drugs his son uses. Biden was also advocating for segregation, didn’t want his kids in a “racial jungle”, and Joe was good friends with a klansmen named Byrd, called him his mentor.

Also, wasn’t it Biden who said that if you don’t vote for him, you ain’t black? That’s gotta be one of the most racist things ever said by a politician. In 2020 Biden was busy doing photo ops with black people just to use them as props for virtue signaling and political gain. If you can’t see the difference then perhaps it’s some kind of inner racism within yourself.

[IMJ]

Exactly. There are no real examples. Only what people will stretch to fit their hate.

The funny thing is that these people think we don't know. They think that the rest of the world who is ahead of them emotionally and developmentally don't know. That we grew out of it after High School but these people are still making assumptions that fit their own life patterns and then trying to shoehorn information into it to appear credible. They think that we don't know they are still there developmentally when they just make $#!( up so as to pretend to be informed and relevant while normally operating society looks at them like society's adult-children.

"Trump is a RACIST! HE is! He IS a racist!"

"OOOOkkkkay son. Got anything for that big stand you are taking?"

"It's all over the news, everyone KNOWS it's true!"

Societies children and peasants come crawling out of the woodwork with opinions that echo oppositional media because it's something easy for them to grasp onto. That's the psychology. The peasants are dumb and easily manipulated, so they get manipulated. "Trump is a RACIST! He IS A racist! It is TRUE!"

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

How old are you? Ish? Just curious, in quantifying that. I don't mean as an attack. Because I have my own anecdotal stuff from the 80s and 90s I recall a bit of what "the adults" were saying about him.

Late 40s. Been online since 93. Didn’t know who Trump was until some folks I was chatting to who lived in New York state mentioned him, and that he was a bit of a see you next Tuesday etc. Asked if I’d seen Home Alone 2, said yes, said he was the guy Kevin bumps into inside the hotel. Didn’t understand his significance until that point, which I guess shows back then with the media and it’s reach, he only meant anything to Americans.

[ChosenOne]

Don't flatter yourself, you still don't understand his significance.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

he only meant anything to Americans.

Like almost any other U.S. Politician in history until they became President. Like any member of U.K. Parliament who I couldn't name one of, or like 99.999% of the politicians on the planet.

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by IMJ

Like almost any other U.S. Politician in history until they became President. Like any member of U.K. Parliament who I couldn't name one of, or like 99.999% of the politicians on the planet.

I’m talking about in the 80s and 90s. Once he started doing The Apprentice series he gained a wider audience, certainly in the UK as we then had our own series launch a year later headed by Alan Sugar. I’ve also been past Trump Plaza in Atlantic City. I certainly knew who Trump was long before he even thought about running for the Republican nomination, and so did a significant number of other people here.

[member_removed]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

I’m talking about in the 80s and 90s. Once he started doing The Apprentice series he gained a wider audience, certainly in the UK as we then had our own series launch a year later headed by Alan Sugar. I’ve also been past Trump Plaza in Atlantic City. I certainly knew who Trump was long before he even thought about running for the Republican nomination, and so did a significant number of other people here.

In the 80's I knew him as the guy who owned the building that hosted the Mega-Powers exploding (Wrestlemania's 4 and 5).

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by member_removed

In the 80's I knew him as the guy who owned the building that hosted the Mega-Powers exploding (Wrestlemania's 4 and 5).

Exactly. He was a rich celebrity in the 80's, I suppose possibly akin to however Regan was viewed as an actor in the 60's.

There is literally no point to be made about "who knew or knows about him" in relation to before or after he got elected. It's another gaslighting point as if it has accusational-meaning. It's nonsense and pointless. It's what haters do to deploy their nonsense hate - it's just something to say in the hopes that fellow peasants will look around the room and join in as if what was said has meaning.

[Mayhem]

Civil case found guilty, $5M. Probably not going to hurt him in any way.

[Vegita-San]

lets see. a 'totally impartial' judge and jury in woke new york city found him guilty. yep, not going too hurt him.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Civil case found guilty, $5M

James T. Kirk: ....Is that a lot?