Official Episode Discussion: #6 "Metalhead"

[Turns]

It would be great if Donnie gave metalhead his own personality (and maybe made him a little taller too). I too was annoyed that the turtles failed to spot the obvious weakness of the krang controlled metalhead. Even if they did not want to show one of the turtles slashing or stabbing the fleshy utrom they could have kicked, punched, headbutted him or even sandwiched him between their shells or something. Also the butt end of a sai is designed to be a blunt but functional component of the weapon so Raph could have just as easily hit him with the butt of one of his sais as Mikey could have hit him with one of his nunchucks.

[Candy Kappa]

I really liked this episode, good to see April act to find clues about the Kraang and possibly her father's whereabouts

[Avatar Yuffie]

I read some of the comments about the whole "why didn't they attack the brain" fridge logic. I watched it again in full attention, and it seemed it was Don's bo impaled in Metalhead's chest was the one that defeated it, not the metal that dropped on the kraang.

It's interesting.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I've been kind of out of it on discussion for the new episodes lately, since I've been having to see them a few days after the premiere lately (for example, just saw this one yesterday), but I had to pop back in after this one.

I hate to say it but...I think Donnie might be my favorite in this incarnation of the show. I was all geared up for it to be Mikey, and I do like Mikey, but Donnie keeps stealing the scenes with some of the best dialogue, delivery (then again, it IS Rob Paulsen), and I'm actually really liking the gags about Donnie's crush on April.

Can't lie, even though I knew it wouldn't with the age range it's aimed at, when Donnie had Metalhead's sight zoom in on her...I had a brief moment where I thought it was going to zoom in on her chest. Donnie...no...stop it Donnie.

[BubblyShell22]

Ha, I thought that too for a minute there. It definitely looked like his camera was headed that way but maybe he thought better of it and decided to zoom on her face instead.

[Bossa Nova]

Originally Posted by Avatar Yuffie

I think the Raph and Don friction came from the 2007 film, as they certainly never gave that vibe in 2K3.

I'm still coming to terms with Rob Paulsen being snarky and aggressive to a character he used to voice. XD

I could see that. They definitely had a bit more of a snippy attitude toward one another, but I also sort of attribute that to the fact that Leo was gone and everyone's nerves were running on overdrive. Once Leo returned Raph was able to channel his frustration back on him as he usually does and he basically left Don alone and vice versa. I just feel they naturally don't argue that much and it takes something drastic like Leo abandoning them for them to really be at one another's throats.

[Metropoliskid41]

Originally Posted by Avatar Yuffie

I think the Raph and Don friction came from the 2007 film, as they certainly never gave that vibe in 2K3.

I'm still coming to terms with Rob Paulsen being snarky and aggressive to a character he used to voice. XD

There seems to be some of that tone to the IDW series as well, where Don is a little too intelligent for his own good and has to remind the other 3 of that all the time. You see a lot of backlash come from all 3 of the turtles towards Donnie because of that, even Leo. I for one welcome that change, in the past there's always been that friction between Raph & Leo that at times has pulled the team apart, I think that angle can be overused, and Raph is always going to be quick to anger, thats part of his personality, so its nice to see him target that somewhere else at times, in this case Donnie, instead of just Leo.

[Avatar Yuffie]

Originally Posted by Bossa Nova

I could see that. They definitely had a bit more of a snippy attitude toward one another, but I also sort of attribute that to the fact that Leo was gone and everyone's nerves were running on overdrive. Once Leo returned Raph was able to channel his frustration back on him as he usually does and he basically left Don alone and vice versa. I just feel they naturally don't argue that much and it takes something drastic like Leo abandoning them for them to really be at one another's throats.

Well, I like it. Leo was mellowed down in this version, likes games to play with his brothers, and Raph outclassed him in combat. It kinda removes the question why Raph would still want to follow Leo's leadership if he's prissy with him all the time (I can forgive the first movie. But the 2k3 and 2k7 film, not so much).

It's been established by now Mikey loves pushing Raph's buttons and enjoys the violence (I really like the fact Mikey complains when Leo or Don hits him). Raph's interaction with Don is really just new territory and I'm looking forward where that direction will go.

[sykosis]

Originally Posted by Avatar Yuffie

I think the Raph and Don friction came from the 2007 film, as they certainly never gave that vibe in 2K3.

I'm still coming to terms with Rob Paulsen being snarky and aggressive to a character he used to voice. XD

I disagree Raph and Leo have always had a bit of friction, and it was shown as far back as the first movie, they would get into shoving matches and Raphael would mimic Leo's goody-two-shoes persona

[BubblyShell22]

Yeah, they were always at odds with each other, but they still acted like brothers. However, I like this dynamic for them as well. It's a welcome change that they aren't constantly at each other's throats and have a more playful rivalry, though I didn't think it would be like that after Leo was chosen as leader.

[FearlessLeader]

Originally Posted by Avatar Yuffie

It kinda removes the question why Raph would still want to follow Leo's leadership if he's prissy with him all the time

Nope, poor word choice Leo has never been prissy; opinionated, pig-headed and even arrogant. Not nor never prissy.

Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

Yeah, they were always at odds with each other, but they still acted like brothers. However, I like this dynamic for them as well. It's a welcome change that they aren't constantly at each other's throats and have a more playful rivalry, though I didn't think it would be like that after Leo was chosen as leader.

It is still in my mind something that could change. I am waiting for Leo to face his first real grave challenge as leader. The first time things get bad and he fumbles and it sets bad events into motion. I am curious to see if this does come to pass if his character will start to alter

[Avatar Yuffie]

I wasn't talking about Leo.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by sykosis

I like this episode, not one of my favorites but it was still pretty ok

only thing that i was getting frustrated about, and i know that this is a kids show, was that they just couldnt stab the damn kraang on top of metalhead's head. just the fact that that it hasnt occured to them that they need to eliminate this threat before they get away is kind of strange to me.

I was too frustrated that they didn't just attack the kraang. I can understand why Nick don't want to show living things get killed, but this felt way too stupid to be fun to watch.

[BubblyShell22]

Originally Posted by FearlessLeader

Nope, poor word choice Leo has never been prissy; opinionated, pig-headed and even arrogant. Not nor never prissy.



It is still in my mind something that could change. I am waiting for Leo to face his first real grave challenge as leader. The first time things get bad and he fumbles and it sets bad events into motion. I am curious to see if this does come to pass if his character will start to alter

Yes, and I have a feeling it'll be next week's episode that might set things in motion for that.

[VaughnMichael]

Hey can anyone confirm if those stickers the living toy(April) has on that laptop are from Eric Talbots Skull Factory?

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by FearlessLeader

It is still in my mind something that could change. I am waiting for Leo to face his first real grave challenge as leader. The first time things get bad and he fumbles and it sets bad events into motion. I am curious to see if this does come to pass if his character will start to alter

Ohh. My favorite episode of OT is when Leo lost his confidence and quit, and each of the other turtles tried taking the leadership role. I'd love to see that in this series.

[In The Clouds]

Maybe I just watch too much sci-fi and so I’m used to coming up with excuses as to why things work, but it doesn’t seem that hard theorize why the Kraang would not be so vulnerable.

Let’s all take a moment to read way too much into things: So, here we have this alien race that “evolved” into a squishy, octopus-out-of-water form that’s only saving grace is that it can apparently “plug-in” to the electronic nervous system of another being. Watching the show closely, you can see that the Kraangs’ body sloshes and slimes around when it’s out of its robotic shell. But once it’s pluged-in, they look rather more like pink rocks. Wouldn’t it make sense (as much sense as any of this can make) that the Kraang have a biological defense mechanism once they’re plugged-in that would protect them from being easily dislodged from their host? Even human organs can become swollen and hard as a rock (though they’re not designed to do that. I’m grossing myself out here); seems to me that an alien body could do the same.

I’m sure you could poke holes in that theory, but it’s mine, I like it, and it helps me to enjoy the show without worrying so much.

[BubblyShell22]

Hmm, that does make sense if you think about it, especially with how that host will latch on so quickly.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by In The Clouds

Maybe I just watch too much sci-fi and so I’m used to coming up with excuses as to why things work, but it doesn’t seem that hard theorize why the Kraang would not be so vulnerable.

Let’s all take a moment to read way too much into things: So, here we have this alien race that “evolved” into a squishy, octopus-out-of-water form that’s only saving grace is that it can apparently “plug-in” to the electronic nervous system of another being. Watching the show closely, you can see that the Kraangs’ body sloshes and slimes around when it’s out of its robotic shell. But once it’s pluged-in, they look rather more like pink rocks. Wouldn’t it make sense (as much sense as any of this can make) that the Kraang have a biological defense mechanism once they’re plugged-in that would protect them from being easily dislodged from their host? Even human organs can become swollen and hard as a rock (though they’re not designed to do that. I’m grossing myself out here); seems to me that an alien body could do the same.

I’m sure you could poke holes in that theory, but it’s mine, I like it, and it helps me to enjoy the show without worrying so much.

Not bad, but it's the fact that they didn't even try to hit it is what was stupid.

[In The Clouds]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Not bad, but it's the fact that they didn't even try to hit it is what was stupid.

Why, that part was off-screen, of course.