Season 1 Finale Spoilers - Page 2

*Donatello19* · 08-01-2013, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

THE Kraang are Krang. Kraang prime is their leader, but the Kraang is a smash-up of the Utroms and Krang, who himself was a reworking of an Utrom anyway.

Exactly! People should be happy that The Kraang are in this show at all. Honestly, Kraang Prime seems similar enough to "the Krang" anyway...

*Coola Yagami* · 08-01-2013, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Donatello19

Um...she kinda is. She's the leader of the Kraang and the main Kraang in charge. That's like saying that Shredder isn't THE Shredder just because he has a different design

Except Krang was never the leader of a hivemind race... so no.. he's not.

*Coola Yagami* · 08-01-2013, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Your trollish pessimisum puts virtually every one who reads it in a coma..fortunatly, the comas are never long lasting, showing how ineffective your powers always will be to the vast majority, who will find this spoiler particulary exciting

You do realize the name of the place you're on right? It's not, and never will be, "Masters of Mirage". I really do wonder why you even bother posting here, especially when all you post is the same tired negative s*ite every single time thinking you're going to accomplish something. You've never acheived anything of note in your entire life except maybe a few s*itty quality podcasts nobody outside of here listens to, and s*tty fanfilms based off a franchise that's a f*cking laughing stock these days (Highlander)

I know this won't get through to you, but learn this: The comics you worship are not the reason anyone cares about TMNT nowadays, nor is their quality neccersarily the measuring stick by which this franchise is defined. TMNT is more proftible, noticable,and popular in the televised medium, and the incarnation that draws the most attention will always be the 80s 'toon. Here's your bitter pill, now SWALLOW it.

Let's not forget he made fancomics to finish the otherwise-incomplete Volume 3, with some of the actual people involved. That alone is something awesome.

Your post is out of line. Andrew is cool, and firm in his decisions. Like Jester says, he might insult the show but not the fans of it. Insulting him personally over a kid's show is out of line and ridiculous.

*Donatello19* · 08-01-2013, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Except Krang was never the leader of a hivemind race... so no.. he's not.

Oh yes....a few small differences makes a COMPLETELY different character. Why, I doubt Kraang Prime is even based on Krang at all! Gosh, maybe they should of just made a re make of the OT...

*snake* · 08-01-2013, 09:45 PM

Why can't people, agree on kraang prime is a re- imagining of Krang. I mean, it's not complex or anything.

*Donatello19* · 08-01-2013, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by snakeweed101

Why can't people, agree on kraang prime is a re- imagining of Krang. I mean, it's not complex or anything.

Exactly. This is what I've been trying to say! Thank you, Snakeweed.

*Coola Yagami* · 08-01-2013, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Donatello19

Oh yes....a few small differences makes a COMPLETELY different character. Why, I doubt Kraang Prime is even based on Krang at all! Gosh, maybe they should of just made a re make of the OT...

Isn't that what Cybercubed wants?

On a similar note, can't people also accept that Kraang Prime ISN'T a re-imagining of Krang? The Kraang are based on the Utroms. Mortu was kinda like the leader of the Utroms (if not the leader). Does that make him THE KRANG in the 2K3 series? Does that make the Utrominator in TMNT Smash-Up THE KRANG of the game? Seriously, this THE Krang stuff this is such nonsense.

*NinjaPug* · 08-01-2013, 09:50 PM

Because one of the writers said Kraang Prime isn't Krang. The Kraang is based off OT Krang/Utroms.

*CyberCubed* · 08-01-2013, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Because one of the writers said Kraang Prime isn't Krang. The Kraang is based off OT Krang/Utroms.

One of the writers, and he's not working on the show past Season 1.

*Coola Yagami* · 08-01-2013, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

One of the writers, and he's not working on the show past Season 1.

But Kraang Prime appears at the end of season 1. And also... what? Are they gonna suddenly shift gears once he stops working after season 1? Are they gonna say Shredder is Eric Sachs if one of the writers leaves after season 1?

*CyberCubed* · 08-01-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

But Kraang Prime appears at the end of season 1. And also... what? Are they gonna suddenly shift gears once he stops working after season 1? Are they gonna say Shredder is Eric Sachs if one of the writers leaves after season 1?

Didn't they originally say Kraang Prime was a female queen...and then changed their minds and made him male?

Things change and characters evolve.

*Galactus* · 08-01-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by snakeweed101

Why can't people, agree on kraang prime is a re- imagining of Krang. I mean, it's not complex or anything.

I suppose they are in the same vein that Krang himself was a reimagining of the TCRI aliens.

Strictly speaking so far the Kraang have more a lot more in common with the Utroms than they do with Krang were the only similarity is the name. In fact we even had someone involved with the show actualy make that exact claim.

In fact the only real difference is that the Kraang are evil and I'd argue that was supposed to be the impression the reader was supposed to get when they were first introduced until the end the big space arc. Not to mention we've had actual evil Utroms in the later Mirage books and in the '03 show.

Now that may change with the introduction of Kraang Prime but so far I just see the name as homage to a similar looking character and nothing else. Another good example is Traag. If the Nick writers had called him something like Talos or Destructor would anyone have really thought General Traag?

As for....

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*NinjaPug* · 08-01-2013, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

One of the writers, and he's not working on the show past Season 1.

The same season that Kraang Prime and The Kraang in general are introduced.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Didn't they originally say Kraang Prime was a female queen...and then changed their minds and made him male?

Things change and characters evolve.

If by 'they' you mean you, then yes. You went crazy when you assumed Prime was a female.

Are we really going to have this argument over again?

**Jester** · 08-01-2013, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Didn't they originally say Kraang Prime was a female queen...and then changed their minds and made him male?

Things change and characters evolve.

It was never confirmed that Kraang Prime was female. We all assumed since an ACTRESS was voicing him he'd be female. We were wrong.

Kinda like the idea that we NEED a THE Krang.....

*Coola Yagami* · 08-01-2013, 10:19 PM

Now that you mention it.... we did always say the Kraang was a hivemind and they'd have a leader. Some people here ASSUMED the leader would be female, like the Borg Queen or the Alien Queen, but Nick themselves never said it would be female, even with Roseanne voicing it.

*CyberCubed* · 08-01-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

It was never confirmed that Kraang Prime was female. We all assumed since an ACTRESS was voicing him he'd be female. We were wrong.

Kinda like the idea that we NEED a THE Krang.....

No, I'm pretty sure Rob Paulsen said something about a "female Kraang" in one of the early podcasts interviews and that's why everyone assumed Kraang Prime was a hive queen character.

Before we even knew about Kraang Prime, people kept talking about a female Kraang on the forums. Rob Paulsen was the first to bring it up.

**Jester** · 08-01-2013, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

No, I'm pretty sure Rob Paulsen said something about a "female Kraang" in one of the early podcasts interviews and that's why everyone assumed Kraang Prime was a hive queen character.

That's just ONE voice actor....who has no hand in writing the scripts.

Konchadunga · 08-01-2013, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Let's not forget he made fancomics to finish the otherwise-incomplete Volume 3, with some of the actual people involved. That alone is something awesome.

All of which makes his other behavior all the more repugnant. Dissing something people love on a forum full of the people who love it, in full knowledge of that fact, is, in fact, tantamount to dissing them. There is nothing at all to be accomplished from doing it, except for making yourself look like a dick. If Andrew can go and make a continuation for Volume 3, then good for him (though last I checked, even many Mirage fans don't like Volume 3), but why isn't that sort of constructive thing the only thing he does? I, for one, have a lot of stuff I hate; including popular things--among them, Dragonball Z, Invader Zim, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Rejected, ET, The Rocky Horror Picture Show, and more stuff that makes me so unpopular, I don't even dare to say it. Yet am I going on any forums for people who love those things, and dissing them? No; because I'm not a dick. I'm content just to go to communities for people who love the same things as I do, so why respect people who aren't?

I, for one, am ashamed Krang and Shredder are so liberal to let these people stay on. They were kind enough to give all incarnations a forum; not just the ones they founded the site on, and some creeps insist on going to "enemy territory" and stirring crap up? That doesn't say anything good about the purists, and I'm not picking sides here; I wish Alliance and the other Fred Wolf purists were gone, too. But purism for or against anything is about the worst thing you can have on a forum that's supposed to welcome all incarnations. Actually no; purism is one of the worst things in any circumstance.

*CyberCubed* · 08-01-2013, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

That's just ONE voice actor....who has no hand in writing the scripts.

But he knew about it, so likely it was from production or early scripts that had Kraang Prime as female. They probably changed it to a male later on in the season.

*Donatello19* · 08-01-2013, 10:31 PM

So, Is Kraang Prime a male, a female..or unknown? Or is it just a genderless alien so we refer to it as IT? I'm confused..

08-01-2013, 10:19 PM	#35
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08-01-2013, 09:45 PM	#25
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	Why can't people, agree on kraang prime is a re- imagining of Krang. I mean, it's not complex or anything.

08-01-2013, 09:50 PM	#28
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,390	Because one of the writers said Kraang Prime isn't Krang. The Kraang is based off OT Krang/Utroms.

08-01-2013, 10:31 PM	#40
Donatello19 Merchandise Maniac Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New York Posts: 5,919	So, Is Kraang Prime a male, a female..or unknown? Or is it just a genderless alien so we refer to it as IT? I'm confused..