Baxter will mutate into a fly! Excited? - Page 4

*CyberCubed* · 08-06-2013, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LittleBlueHero

So do we have any Black characters left on the show? Baxter and Xever are both mutated now... does that still count?

Im thinking in our politically correct society they will be introducing at least one new African-American Character. Maybe Hun will make an appearance as a Black Male? I don't think it would effect his character at all.

I dunno... just surprised me I guess.

The only other black character is Bebop, but since he gets mutated too, you're right. Every black guy becomes a mutant.

*Andrew NDB* · 08-06-2013, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The only other black character is Bebop, but since he gets mutated too, you're right. Every black guy becomes a mutant.

Hell of a message to send to African American youths, really. "You're not good enough [to be on our show] unless you mutate into an animal person!" or worse yet: "Inside every man of color is a monster waiting to be realized!"

*Shark_Blade* · 08-06-2013, 04:32 PM

Playing the racist card now? I doubt it's intentional.

We have Bernadette Thompson (Whoopi Goldberg) in the new movie if you wanna psychoanalyze much.

***First of Two Latin Kings*** · 08-06-2013, 04:50 PM

Eh... they mutate a lot of white guys too.

*CyberCubed* · 08-06-2013, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ***The One True Shredder***

Eh... they mutate a lot of white guys too.

Not really when you realize most mutants are animals before hand.

The only white humans who turn into mutants are Dogpound, Rocksteady, Snakeweed, Spiderbitez, um...Mondo Gecko in Archie?

There are way more animal mutants like Leatherhead, Rahzar/Tokka, Slash, Groundchuck/Dirtbag, Cockroach terminator, etc.

marcelangelo · 08-06-2013, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Not really when you realize most mutants are animals before hand.

The only white humans who turn into mutants are Dogpound, Rocksteady, Snakeweed, Spiderbitez, um...Mondo Gecko in Archie?

There are way more animal mutants like Leatherhead, Rahzar/Tokka, Slash, Groundchuck/Dirtbag, Cockroach terminator, etc.

so doesnt that then just make 2 black guys get mutated and 4 white guys get mutated??...some thoughts in that direction have crossed my mind once too but I thought baxter just works very well on EVERY level(human, mutant, cyborg) so I just take him in as a very koool character...
also, the heroes are not white at all...I like that in fact...they're neither white nor black...

*CyberCubed* · 08-06-2013, 06:00 PM

The problem is there aren't any other good black characters to counter all the villain black characters.

This is why Baxter was made white in the OT to begin with. The possible backlash of Shredder bossing around a wimpy black scientist might have been too much in the 80's. So Baxter was whitewashed.

*Coola Yagami* · 08-06-2013, 09:04 PM

Another way to look at it is black people are awesome for bein turned into awesome mutants on that show. Other than Shredder and Karai, mutant villains (or otherwise non-human villains) stand out more than human ones in the TMNT world.

*CyberCubed* · 08-06-2013, 09:45 PM

I'm kinda wondering how they're going to go about this. Will Baxter still be intelligent? Will he have any insect powers further than what he had in the OT?

*Galactus* · 08-07-2013, 12:16 PM

Well we've still got Carlos Chiang O'Brien Gambe.

If at a loss we can always introduce Carter.

FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza · 08-07-2013, 02:52 PM

Am I the only one who never paid attention to race in this show?
Ya'll seem to have a huge focus on this subject and i have seen a couple topics regarding character whitewashing already.

Pterobat · 08-10-2013, 10:18 PM

Welp.

I accidentally stumbled on this spoiler, and I'm surprised it's happening. I guess I shouldn't be, but eh.

I like what the animated universes keep making of Baxter: a self-destructive failure whose story always ends with transformation. The Nick show has followed the other parts of Baxter's story, so...I guess a transformation fits.

I don't think turning specifically into a fly is absolutely essential for his character, and wasn't clamouring for it...I'm also a little disappointed that a unique mode of transformation wasn't chosen.

On the other hand, I like that at they're apparently keeping some goofiness to him. We need a little more of that, to counteract all the darker "re-imagining" of OT stuff we've been getting--sometimes the goofiness is the best part.

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Originally Posted by Blade Raider

As long as he doesn't start working for a nonchalant motherboard, I won't complain.

But that stuff was comedy gold!

Anyway, carry on. I wonder if we'll see any more of Baxter before the scheduled transformation. I mean...where's he been all this time, anyway?

*BubblyShell22* · 08-11-2013, 05:21 PM

Probably plotting his next plan of DOOM!

*LeotheLateBloomer* · 08-12-2013, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JYX

And as much as I like the OT, this move just seems too close to the OT. I was hoping that he wouldn't be mutated (since there's so many mutants already in the Nick series), or at the very least be mutated to something other than a fly, then I would have greater anticipation for Baxter's mutation. ...Now this just seems so... predictable.

I was hoping for some new storytelling, or a different spin with Baxter's character rather than a repetition (of sorts) with him in regards to his mutation.

I guess with the exception of the Archie series, it seems that Baxter will forever be doomed to be a mutant fly or cyborg, but I guess that's part of the tragedy of his character.

I agree with this. I was hoping that they'd try something unique with Baxter considering how complex the character has been. There are many possibilities to tell a great story with him. Part of the reason why I liked him in the 2003 cartoon is because he was a character that you could really have sympathy for. Going through a whole lot of trouble in life, being taken apart piece by piece, suffering through a skin disorder in order to fix his body, and eventually being reduced into nothing but a brain. I was excited to see what Ciro and Nickelodeon were going to do with Baxter but sadly they decided on the fan service route which leads to one of my biggest problems with this cartoon. I just hope they do some more original ideas with this cartoon like the turtles facing off against more human villains for example.

MisterMiracle · 08-12-2013, 11:26 PM

That's pretty cool. Nice nod to the original.

WhitefinDolphin · 08-12-2013, 11:36 PM

Is anyone else seeing a bunch of poop jokes coming with Baxter Stockman's Fly mutation? "Choco-Log" candy bars, eh?

*BabyTurtles* · 08-13-2013, 12:05 AM

Baxter turns into a fly.

who's fault is it this time?? XD

T-U-R-T-L-E POWA! · 08-13-2013, 12:38 AM

I actually don't mind this because Baxter Stockman was always one of my favorite figures so I'm hoping they will make a figure of him in his mutant form and it will be really cool too.

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08-11-2013, 05:21 PM	#73
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Probably plotting his next plan of DOOM! __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

08-13-2013, 12:05 AM	#77
BabyTurtles Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,177	Baxter turns into a fly. who's fault is it this time?? XD __________________

08-06-2013, 04:32 PM	#63
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Playing the racist card now? I doubt it's intentional. We have Bernadette Thompson (Whoopi Goldberg) in the new movie if you wanna psychoanalyze much.

08-06-2013, 06:00 PM	#67
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	The problem is there aren't any other good black characters to counter all the villain black characters. This is why Baxter was made white in the OT to begin with. The possible backlash of Shredder bossing around a wimpy black scientist might have been too much in the 80's. So Baxter was whitewashed.

08-06-2013, 09:45 PM	#69
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	I'm kinda wondering how they're going to go about this. Will Baxter still be intelligent? Will he have any insect powers further than what he had in the OT?

08-07-2013, 12:16 PM	#70
Galactus Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,009	Well we've still got Carlos Chiang O'Brien Gambe. If at a loss we can always introduce Carter.

08-07-2013, 02:52 PM	#71
FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,229	Am I the only one who never paid attention to race in this show? Ya'll seem to have a huge focus on this subject and i have seen a couple topics regarding character whitewashing already.

08-12-2013, 11:26 PM	#75
MisterMiracle Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 114	That's pretty cool. Nice nod to the original.

08-12-2013, 11:36 PM	#76
WhitefinDolphin Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: n/a Posts: 100	Is anyone else seeing a bunch of poop jokes coming with Baxter Stockman's Fly mutation? "Choco-Log" candy bars, eh?

08-13-2013, 12:38 AM	#78
T-U-R-T-L-E POWA! Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Knoxville,TN Posts: 996	I actually don't mind this because Baxter Stockman was always one of my favorite figures so I'm hoping they will make a figure of him in his mutant form and it will be really cool too.