TMNT #25 Preview/Discussion

[Tazi]

Just witout spoilers, from now:
Holy ****! Lots of things hinted and anticipated, are coming together in this issue! This was at least as good as City Fall pt1, and I can't wait until next monts.

Also, there's a really shocking panel if you're familiar with 4kids cartoon's plot...

[Blossombrooks]

Ahh this issue has tied up a few of the ends people have been talking about, I feel like the arc is really moving now.
I have to wonder tho...

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Just what is Old Hob going to ask of Splinter?

I liked the flashback of Leo's, it confirms that he isn't all gone and Kitsune knows it too. Why is she intent on him not using lethal force? Will that be the thing that snaps Leo out of it because of it being against his core beliefs? That would be a tough way to come back for him, look how he was over Slash.

[Tazi]

Originally Posted by corvus

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that was Caseys dad. Not Hun. He probably has a purple dragon tat from his days with them but I swear if he dyes his hair blond and becomes Hun....

But...

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They're the same. Just compare his face with Santolouco's Hun design from #27's cover.
Also, that's not a tat, that's the exact same tattoo that Hun has on his back.


Angel's and Casey's past together, and their faters past was never explained with much detail, but it's very likely, that they ran the Purple Dragon together, years ago.

The best in all this, that it was all planned and hinted from issue #1, as it seems.

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Why is she intent on him not using lethal force? Will that be the thing that snaps Leo out of it because of it being against his core beliefs? That would be a tough way to come back for him, look how he was over Slash.

I think that's very likely. I could also imagine that meeting with Slash could break the whole braincontrol thing.
Also, a scene with Leo handing back the black mask to Slash would be an epic ending scene.

[MikeandRaph87]

Spoilers below....



The last page shows Karai's plan B furthuring the plotpoint from her micro come to furition. I expected them to appear but it was cool seeing the transformation in progression with Rocksteady. We see the mutagen injections on thier wrist but where are the animals? I hope its explained.

Casey's dad? It looks like he is setting up to be killed. I just have the feeling he is not going to be around much longer.

Old Hob wants a favor of Splinter? What could that be? Any ideas?

We finally see the Savate get serious. They are bad and don't like Shredder taking over. I doubt Victor will see his end because we still need to learn why the Savate is a criminal group of ninjas rival to the Foot Clan. Doubt we will get it all before the end of the arc. The Svate will learn the hard way though that Shredder is the one in control.

Anyone else get the idea the corrupt cop Raphael was introgating to be a nod to Frank Miller?

[corvus]

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gangs get similar tattoos. I'm willing to bet angels dad has the same one. Santoloucos design for Hun doesnc't have black hair, stubble or a beer gut. I think it'd be really stupid for Hun to be Caseys dad but not someone from his past though, that'd make a lot of sense. Notice the purple dragon graffiti on Hobs place?

[Rooish]

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Good point, the nose is different. I got so psyched that Hun might be Casey's dad.

[Tazi]

Originally Posted by corvus

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gangs get similar tattoos. I'm willing to bet angels dad has the same one. Santoloucos design for Hun doesnc't have black hair, stubble or a beer gut. I think it'd be really stupid for Hun to be Caseys dad but not someone from his past though, that'd make a lot of sense. Notice the purple dragon graffiti on Hobs place?

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I still think it's Hun.
In most arts he stands back to the view, so you can't see his beer gut, except here:
He also has the built as Casey's dad.

Also, compare this with Casey's dad from Casey Micro, they're way too similar.

His original black hair is not a big deal, I think, not just because "hydrogen blonde" is not a natural hair color, but because most Purple Dragons had painted hair colors anyway, it wouldn't be a new thing at all.

It's just two weeks until Hun micro, we will see soon, if I were wrong, or not.

[corvus]

I saw that. He doesn't have the pronounced widows peek either and I don't see a beer gut in that picture. I really hope you're wrong cause that would just ruin Hun.

[MikeandRaph87]

I thought Casey's dad was going to get killed by Hun not actually BE Hun himself. So in a way I would be correct in that Casey's dad kills his old self for the Hun moniker.

I recall that it was said Hun would debut in TMNT#25 and so would Bebop and Rocksteady. Well,the mutant duo was obivious but Hun was vague if instead odf Angel's dad Hun is Casey's dad.

[corvus]

I thought Huns first appearance was is said to be in his micro

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by corvus

I thought Huns first appearance was is said to be in his micro

Scroll down to July 18th in the link revealing Hun is to debut in #25. It was apart of the SDCC panel.

http://www.tmntlair.com/

[corvus]

God I really hope that Hun isn't Caseys dad. I'm thinking Tom should weigh in on this and explain what his intentions are on that page.

[Desslok]

What, and ruin the suspense?!

I just read through and WOW I love where all of this is going. It's going to be greatness when all of these elements collide.

[Master Splinter]

I really enjoyed this issue. I feel like the story has progressed nicely. It was nice to see some more savate action but I'd still like to know more of their motivation in all of this. I was actually hoping for a savate micro. Anyways, the final page was great and who knows about Casey's dad, whatever happens it has got me interested.

-ms

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Master Splinter

I really enjoyed this issue. I feel like the story has progressed nicely. It was nice to see some more savate action but I'd still like to know more of their motivation in all of this. I was actually hoping for a savate micro. Anyways, the final page was great and who knows about Casey's dad, whatever happens it has got me interested.

-ms

I was thinknig about this after I read the issue,Kevin mentioned he wanted to do a second Annual. Have the contents being teased? What if it was a follow up of the previous and focus again on the Savate. The first one set up the group and established them and Victor in particular. The follow up could give the reader insight to their motivation, roots, and connection to the Foot. Just a reasonable guess and something I would like to see happen!

I have seen both Tom and Bobby lurking yet they have yet to comment. I think we will have to wait for two weeks unless the teaser twelve days away give or take tells us something in reference to Hun's identity. Its just like Fugitoid hiding in plain sight. Speaking of Fugi, we have been away from him for some time. Krang could have ripped his robotic head off and downloaded the portal information by now!

[TomWaltz]

Originally Posted by corvus

God I really hope that Hun isn't Caseys dad. I'm thinking Tom should weigh in on this and explain what his intentions are on that page.

My intentions? To get you good folks guessing, of course!

[CyberCubed]

Looking at Hun's design on the micro cover, he looks nothing like Casey's father. Aside from the blonde hair, the entire body type is different too.

I don't see how Casey's dad who is a drunkard slob can become incredibly buff like Hun.

[Ninjinister]

At this rate Lindsey is gonna end up being the reincarnated Tang Shen.

[DrSpengler]

Here's my review of TMNT #25 at TMNT Entity.

While last issue was all action and spectacle, this installment was heavy on the story. A lot of plot threads and character arcs moved forward and it was quite a bit to take in.

It's good to see the gang war finally receive an official declaration. That thread's been simmering since TMNT #6, which was, like, 2 years ago, right? Man, when you guys at IDW said you had a "grand scheme" plotted out, you weren't kidding.

The Savate were oafish buffoons in their last appearance in the 2012 Annual, but I presume that the new management has whipped them into shape since then. Admittedly, their comical antics in the Annual didn't do much to build them up as a worthy rival to the Foot Clan for the impending gang war, but they seem to be serious business, now. Victor killing a guy for speaking out of turn was kind of a cheap measure to show he's "for real", but if it got the point across that the Savate are no longer comic relief, then I guess it did it's job.

So much going on that there's almost too much to talk about in one sitting, but I found the revelation that Shredder ordered Dark Leo not to kill rather curious. The narrative excuse makes enough sense (that doing something so drastically against his own nature this soon in the conversion might undo the brainwashing), it feels just a tad convenient. Kinda like when he "killed" Slash without actually killing him. Now he's joined up with a clan of assassins, but he's under orders not to kill anybody because reasons. Hopefully that'll be challenged later on.

Knowing in advance that the next Villain Micro in the pipeline was Hun has had me curious. No foreshadowing for his character at all (seemingly), so I was wondering if he was just gonna pop right out of the blue. Casey's dad having a "purple dragon" tattoo, though, is a curious segue. Ought to be good.

And then there's that splash page at the end. Bad. Ass.

[MrTMNT2012]

Got to be honest. This is my least favourite issue so far!

Didn't like that we didn't advance the plot at all and there was barely any action in it. Raphael's acknowledgement of why he was so angry was incredibly rushed, it was literally the next panel after Mike talks to him. The rivalry between Dark Leo and Karai is pointless, Kitsune was wasted in this issue and Victor parts were pretty dull surprisingly. April and Casey's kiss was once again rushed and the whole issue seemed a little lost in what direction it was going in.

I did like the last panel though... But then again, who couldn't?

Been Loving City Fall but this issue did NOT live up to the greatness of past chapters.

(5.0/10) for 'City Fall: Part 4' Hopefully next month's will be better...