Katy Perry bigger than Britney/Christina in their prime?

[CyberCubed]

Katy Perry's songs have been topping charts one after the other since 2008. It feels like she's become bigger than Britney Spears and Christina Aquilera were in their prime. Also she is better looking than them in their prime too for that matter.

Never expected Katy to have staying power.

[Blossombrooks]

Y'know I read this and I was going 'No way!'...But then I got to checking the stats and I was really surprised that Britney and Christina really haven't had as many numbers ones in the U.S as Katy Perry.

I was surprised because in the UK they both had much better chart success and I think Britney has the most of the three. Katy Perry has a long way to go in terms of longevity, she's only 3 years younger than her predecessors but they've already enjoyed 14 years or so in the business. I hope she continues to do well, I'm not a fan of the new single but she gives the fans a good show and seems to still be embracing each performance.

[Bauer536]

Even though I think she's not a very talented singer (she's not bad), Perry has some very good songs and appealing videos. In other words, she's just fun. She's not P!nk, but she has something that attracts more fans, I guess. I'm hoping her new album will be good. "Roar" is not bad, but it does sound like Sara Bareilles' "Brave." Not bothered by that. I'm surprised people love "California Gurls." I like it, too, but its tune resembles Ke$ha's "Tik Tok."

Yet, if you asked me, the best "Perry" in the music business would have been Journey's past front man Steve Perry.

[CyberCubed]

Katy Perry isn't a bad role model, aside from the usual bikini bra's and so forth. Also she is damn hot. I am usually not someone who finds most singers attractive, but I had to make an exception in Katy Perry's case. Huge boobs, dark black hair, a body that's not paper thin, etc.

Katy Perry also had the best performance at the VMA's.

[Peanut]

You're becoming Chrischan levels of creep, kid.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Peanut

You're becoming Chrischan levels of creep, kid.

What does that have to do with noticing Katy Perry's continued popularity? I'm not a major fan of her music, I'm not her target audience (teenage girls), but as a follower of the music industry I can't help but notice she's on Britney Spears/Christina's level back in the day.

Also boobs are boobs, of course we're going to notice them especially with how much she promotes them.

[Blossombrooks]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Katy Perry also had the best performance at the VMA's.

Katy Perry wasn't singing live at the VMA's. It was a good performance but not a patch on JT in my view, whether you like him or not he did an amazing routine and sang live.

[Refractive Reflections]

If we are talking about singles chart performance, then Katy Perry for sure. But if we are talking about album sales and pop culture impact then Britney Spears without question (she got a Hollywood Walk of fame star in 2003, just 5 years into her career). (Of course we could also debate about how fair it is to compare album sales before and after internet piracy of the early 2000s... )

Britney Spears is somewhat credited along with Backstreet Boys and N'Sync for ushering 90s teen pop music. I think PopMatters Evan Sawdey made a good point of how clever Britney and her handlers were about her image and success, especially with Britney's first music video "Baby One More Time":

PopMatters writer Evan Sawdey commented that Spears's concept for the music video of the song was the one responsible for her immediate success, saying that, as a result, the singer "scored a massive No. 1 single, inadvertently started the late '90s teen pop boom, and created a public persona for herself that was simultaneously kid-friendly and pure male fantasy. Her videos got played on both MTV and the Disney Channel at the same time, showing just how well Spears (and her armies of PR handlers) managed to walk that fine line between family-friendly pop idol and unabashed sex object."

If your interested in more about Britney's legacy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britney_spears#Legacy

[Leo656]

I think she has more talent than either one but I highly doubt she'll have the staying power of Britney; Christina's been a has-been for a long while now. For better or worse, Katy's gonna have to start "shocking" people if she wants to be as long-remembered as they are. She's "playful sexy", which is fine, but from Madonna to Britney, what sells is "Porn Star Sexy". You absolutely have to go that route if you want a long career, no matter what your "music" sounds like. Thus we get things like the Miley Cyrus train wreck. She's just doing what she knows she has to do.

I'm not saying I condone it - although really, what guy is gonna say they're *against" it?! - but that's how the entertainment business works when it comes to women. Be prepared to be exploited, or Go Home. I kinda like Katy better than the other two (although none of them make the kind of music I like), and she's gorgeous, but if she doesn't "accidentally" flash some vag or leak out a sex tape, something to "push the envelope", she's gonna fade away like Mandy Moore and the other Flavor of the Month chicks.

It's a shame, but that's money.

[Bauer536]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I think she has more talent than either one but I highly doubt she'll have the staying power of Britney; Christina's been a has-been for a long while now. For better or worse, Katy's gonna have to start "shocking" people if she wants to be as long-remembered as they are. She's "playful sexy", which is fine, but from Madonna to Britney, what sells is "Porn Star Sexy". You absolutely have to go that route if you want a long career, no matter what your "music" sounds like. Thus we get things like the Miley Cyrus train wreck. She's just doing what she knows she has to do.

I'm not saying I condone it - although really, what guy is gonna say they're *against" it?! - but that's how the entertainment business works when it comes to women. Be prepared to be exploited, or Go Home. I kinda like Katy better than the other two (although none of them make the kind of music I like), and she's gorgeous, but if she doesn't "accidentally" flash some vag or leak out a sex tape, something to "push the envelope", she's gonna fade away like Mandy Moore and the other Flavor of the Month chicks.

It's a shame, but that's money.

P!nk is not really like a porn star, and she still is talented and wildly popular. Gwen Stefani does not act like a porn star, and she still is popular, mostly with her band No Doubt. Adele is popular, too, and she doesn't need to be revealing anything to be a star.

And how has Mandy Moore faded away? She's still doing what she loves making some good music for adults, and if you're not familiar with this, she was the voice of Rapunzel in Disney's Tangled. What do you have to say to that?

[Leo656]

I'd argue that having a steady level of fame and still making a lot of money is not *exactly* the same as being a "phenomenon" like Britney. To get to *that* level, you have to play by "The Rules".

And while Pink has a bit more substance than some others, she absolutely has pushed the "skank" button, or, in some odd twist, the "Anti-Skank Button", where she dresses and acts slutty "ironically" to show that she is "different" from Britney, etc. Which somehow has the exact same effect of A) getting her half-naked, and B) getting her on MTV and magazine covers. I like her, though. But she's as guilty as the rest to a lesser extent of using blatant sexuality to keep her career going.

And I wasn't trying to dis Mandy Moore, if anything she's someone I respect because she *was* part of that scene early on and quickly decided she did NOT want to be one of those types, so she made a good choice and shifted gears career-wise rather than sell her morals for money. Nothing wrong with that. But she's still a decent candidate for a "Where Are They Now?", if we're being honest.

Short point being: There's Fame and there's FAME. To get it all in caps, you have to follow a certain script.

[Refractive Reflections]

Originally Posted by Bauer536

P!nk is not really like a porn star, and she still is talented and wildly popular. Gwen Stefani does not act like a porn star, and she still is popular, mostly with her band No Doubt. Adele is popular, too, and she doesn't need to be revealing anything to be a star.

And how has Mandy Moore faded away? She's still doing what she loves making some good music for adults, and if you're not familiar with this, she was the voice of Rapunzel in Disney's Tangled. What do you have to say to that?

I'll give you Adele and Pink as being pop music relevant, but Gwen Stefani hasn't been prominently in the spotlight since her The Sweet Escape album, plus her return to No Doubt with the album Push and Shove sold a disappointing 115K on the first week. It doesn't help either that the singles from the album peaked at #34 with "Settle Down", and "Looking Hot" didn't even chart on the Billboard Hot 100. And unfortunately even though she's swimming in the fountain of youth with her looks, pop music is notoriously ageist and it will be more difficult for her and her band to maintain pop music relevant with her being 43 years old already.

As for Pink, well her albums are pretty formulaic, but hey they work. For the past three albums she releases her first single to have some alluring "rebellious" theme against something/someone (i.e. "Stupid Girls", "So What", and "Blow Me (One Last Kiss)" that usually has some censored profanity to give it the "edge" she needs to still be seen as "hard" or "edgy". Then her second and/or third singles are all ballad songs (i.e. "Who Knew" with I'm Not Dead, "Sober" & "Please Don't Leave Me" with Funhouse, "Try" & "Give Me Just A Reason" with The Truth About Love). At least in the beginning of her career, she was more adaptable to new sounds when she went from hip-hop/rap ("Can't Take Me Home") to rock ("Missundaztood"), and still trying to figure out her sound. I'm not saying Pink is untalented, but her albums seem "routine" at least to me.

And sorry Bauer536 but... Mandy Moore has faded away in terms of popular music longevity. Not trying to be insulting in anyway, but as Leo656 has pointed out her musical presence is a whisper from the impact she made during the peak of late 90s/early 00s teen pop.

Unfortunately in the pop music industry its a combination of having some musical talent and having just the right marketable image. You can't just have solely one or the other without being a pop star icon. Otherwise if it was strictly talent, we could ask why Celine Dion isn't still popular on the charts despite having vocal talent close to Adele's? Or if it was strictly image, any runway model would be a music star and have a music career last for many years.

[CyberCubed]

Katy's Eye of the Tiger music video is actually really good. Love the cinematography....also Katy's boobs are awesome:

[Refractive Reflections]

Hmmm, after reading these posts from CyberCubed:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Katy Perry isn't a bad role model, aside from the usual bikini bra's and so forth. Also she is damn hot. I am usually not someone who finds most singers attractive, but I had to make an exception in Katy Perry's case. Huge boobs, dark black hair, a body that's not paper thin, etc.

Katy Perry also had the best performance at the VMA's.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

What does that have to do with noticing Katy Perry's continued popularity? I'm not a major fan of her music, I'm not her target audience (teenage girls), but as a follower of the music industry I can't help but notice she's on Britney Spears/Christina's level back in the day.
Also boobs are boobs, of course we're going to notice them especially with how much she promotes them.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Katy's Eye of the Tiger music video is actually really good. Love the cinematography....also Katy's boobs are awesome:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I'm just disappointed the camera was zoomed out when Katy Perry was jumping on the jump rope. There would have been a good animated pic there.

I think the more appropriate title for CyberCubed's thread here should have been: "Katy Perry's bigger than Britney/Christina in their prime?"

[Jester]

I just love how he's such a fan, that he can't even get the song's title right.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Jester

I just love how he's such a fan, that he can't even get the song's title right.

I don't actually spend time listening to Katy Perry music, I just hear enough of it due to all the music shows and online.

It's like how back in the 90's everyone heard Britney Spears songs whether you were a fan of her or not. Or Michael Jackson before that.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

It feels like she's become bigger than Britney Spears and Christina Aquilera were in their prime. Also she is better looking than them in their prime too for that matter.

Not at all.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Not at all.

The former or the latter? If its the latter I must admit I've always preferred dark hair on a woman compared to blonde's.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The former or the latter? If its the latter I must admit I've always preferred dark hair on a woman compared to blonde's.

Personally I'm not even attracted to white chicks, but I'd take Britney Spears in her prime over any of those chickens. And Katy Perry looks scary.

[Turo602]

Is this about who's hotter or who was/is a bigger sensation?