A Closer Look And What To Expect In 'Batman: Arkham Origins' - Page 5

*raph27* · 10-26-2013, 05:00 PM

Well, well, well. Look at all this on-topic Arkham Origins friendly chat in these last pages.

I played it at a friends house. He was at the part where Batman is in Wonderland and it's really odd but cool. Then you get to fight bunnies.

has anyone tried the 3DS/Vita version?

*CyberCubed* · 10-27-2013, 02:07 PM

The game is getting 7's in most review sites calling it the worst of the trilogy this far.

I think they're just complaining about it being more of the same. I haven't played it yet but I loved the last two games so this is a sure buy.

Seeks · 10-28-2013, 05:04 PM

It's very rare I feel compelled to do this, but I have just finished the game and all I can say is ignore the critics.

Arkham Origins is absolutely fantastic and easily sits in second place of the Arkham series IMO. Asylum is still number one for me, although Origins comes very close, and City takes third place. However, all three of them are incredible.

I think the critics are giving the game an unfair bashing. The major complaints appear to be the fact that the game "is more of the same". In response all I can say is this; If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Not to mention the fact that this sort of stuff is acceptable given it's a prequel. The critics seem to be forgetting that and are instead just treating it as the third game in a series.

Rocksteady set up the formula and made it popular. Warner Bros. Montreal have improved upon it. The complaints with Asylum and City were that the boss battles were a big disappointment on the whole. Origins, on the other hand, has the best by far. Each is unique, tailored to the villain and present a reasonable challenge. The combat is also more refined than ever, which arguably it shouldn't, given it's a prequel, but it isn't a major problem at all. I haven't delved into side missions and other collectables properly yet, but there's definitely more of an incentive to do so as there are some great rewards attached.

Arkham Origins is not only a great way of setting up the origins of Bats' encounter with some of his major villains, but it's a great way of setting up the origins of the Arkham series. I hope WB Montreal are proud of their efforts and I hope Rocksteady are proud to see what has been done with the series that they have started. I'd love to see WBM do more games in the gap between Origins and Asylum, with Rocksteady tackling things post-City.

Definitely recommended.

~~Leo656~~ · 10-28-2013, 09:04 PM

I haven't played it yet but I'd bet a lot of it has to do with the new developers being an easy target. A lot of people had themselves in Bash-mode the second they announced someone else would be making it.

Nobody should ever make a decision on anything based solely on critics and reviews. I love reading them, but just for entertainment. Critics over-sell and under-sell everything. Part of it is because they are literally exposed to everything, which can make a person jaded after a while. Someone's having a bad day, they're playing a game that's OK but not perfect, maybe a little too similar to the last game in a series - "This sucks, it's just like the last one!" and a game that could be a solid 8 gets a 7. Happens all the time.

Not saying that's definitely what happened in this case, just saying it does happen. That's why I like when magazines and websites do retro reviews or re-reviews; many times, they admit they were way too harsh the first time around for whatever reason. But I expect this one will be good. If the worst thing anyone can say is "It's more of the same" then I really can't find any fault with that. "If it ain't broke," as you said.

I'll probably pick it up in a few weeks after I'm done with the bulk of WWE 2K14.

Seeks · 10-29-2013, 05:55 AM

Indeed.

There's many contradictions going on with the critics on this particular game. When the game was first announced, and that it would be tackled with a different developer, critics initial thoughts were "I hope they don't change too much". Fast forward to now and the game is being criticised for being "more of the same".

You're perfectly right about that people shouldn't solely listen to reviews, but unfortunately it's what a lot of people tend to do.

As I said in my initial post, Rocksteady created the formula and made it popular. Warner Bros. Montreal have merely built upon that and for the good, I'd say.

*CyberCubed* · 10-29-2013, 08:07 PM

I still want a game where you can drive around the Batmobile through the streets GTA style. Until they give us a fully-realized open world Gotham like that...there's still room for improvement.

*Shark_Blade* · 10-30-2013, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I still want a game where you can drive around the Batmobile through the streets GTA style. Until they give us a fully-realized open world Gotham like that...there's still room for improvement.

They already did that.

Batman & Robin. PS1.

Go check that out.

*Candy Kappa* · 10-31-2013, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

They already did that.

Batman & Robin. PS1.

Go check that out.

Not really, but close enough.

10-28-2013, 05:04 PM	#83
Seeks Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Sheffield, UK. Posts: 156	It's very rare I feel compelled to do this, but I have just finished the game and all I can say is ignore the critics. Arkham Origins is absolutely fantastic and easily sits in second place of the Arkham series IMO. Asylum is still number one for me, although Origins comes very close, and City takes third place. However, all three of them are incredible. I think the critics are giving the game an unfair bashing. The major complaints appear to be the fact that the game "is more of the same". In response all I can say is this; If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Not to mention the fact that this sort of stuff is acceptable given it's a prequel. The critics seem to be forgetting that and are instead just treating it as the third game in a series. Rocksteady set up the formula and made it popular. Warner Bros. Montreal have improved upon it. The complaints with Asylum and City were that the boss battles were a big disappointment on the whole. Origins, on the other hand, has the best by far. Each is unique, tailored to the villain and present a reasonable challenge. The combat is also more refined than ever, which arguably it shouldn't, given it's a prequel, but it isn't a major problem at all. I haven't delved into side missions and other collectables properly yet, but there's definitely more of an incentive to do so as there are some great rewards attached. Arkham Origins is not only a great way of setting up the origins of Bats' encounter with some of his major villains, but it's a great way of setting up the origins of the Arkham series. I hope WB Montreal are proud of their efforts and I hope Rocksteady are proud to see what has been done with the series that they have started. I'd love to see WBM do more games in the gap between Origins and Asylum, with Rocksteady tackling things post-City. Definitely recommended. __________________ "Everyone's a critic." - Splinter

10-29-2013, 05:55 AM	#85
Seeks Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Sheffield, UK. Posts: 156	Indeed. There's many contradictions going on with the critics on this particular game. When the game was first announced, and that it would be tackled with a different developer, critics initial thoughts were "I hope they don't change too much". Fast forward to now and the game is being criticised for being "more of the same". You're perfectly right about that people shouldn't solely listen to reviews, but unfortunately it's what a lot of people tend to do. As I said in my initial post, Rocksteady created the formula and made it popular. Warner Bros. Montreal have merely built upon that and for the good, I'd say. __________________ "Everyone's a critic." - Splinter

10-26-2013, 05:00 PM	#81
raph27 Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2013 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,611	Well, well, well. Look at all this on-topic Arkham Origins friendly chat in these last pages. I played it at a friends house. He was at the part where Batman is in Wonderland and it's really odd but cool. Then you get to fight bunnies. has anyone tried the 3DS/Vita version?

10-27-2013, 02:07 PM	#82
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,897	The game is getting 7's in most review sites calling it the worst of the trilogy this far. I think they're just complaining about it being more of the same. I haven't played it yet but I loved the last two games so this is a sure buy.

10-28-2013, 09:04 PM	#84
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I haven't played it yet but I'd bet a lot of it has to do with the new developers being an easy target. A lot of people had themselves in Bash-mode the second they announced someone else would be making it. Nobody should ever make a decision on anything based solely on critics and reviews. I love reading them, but just for entertainment. Critics over-sell and under-sell everything. Part of it is because they are literally exposed to everything, which can make a person jaded after a while. Someone's having a bad day, they're playing a game that's OK but not perfect, maybe a little too similar to the last game in a series - "This sucks, it's just like the last one!" and a game that could be a solid 8 gets a 7. Happens all the time. Not saying that's definitely what happened in this case, just saying it does happen. That's why I like when magazines and websites do retro reviews or re-reviews; many times, they admit they were way too harsh the first time around for whatever reason. But I expect this one will be good. If the worst thing anyone can say is "It's more of the same" then I really can't find any fault with that. "If it ain't broke," as you said. I'll probably pick it up in a few weeks after I'm done with the bulk of WWE 2K14.

10-29-2013, 08:07 PM	#86
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,897	I still want a game where you can drive around the Batmobile through the streets GTA style. Until they give us a fully-realized open world Gotham like that...there's still room for improvement.