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Mad Scientist
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What's Next After Shredder?
I wonder what story can done in the aftermath of Shredder? I only ask because when I think about about Neutrino's storyline in the IDW or any storyline that's doesn't involve the Shredder, then the story doesn't revolve around them anymore. It's like there all this plot that you see and you dump some turtles in there and hope it works together.
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Overlord
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We've seen what post-Shredder TMNT is many times:
Mirage: Shredder wasn't a major character here, so they had some fueds with the Foot Clan and went on other adventures Fred Wolf: The Lord Dregg era Movies: Random villains 4kids: Bishop, Karai becomes Shredder....then...Demon and Cyber Shredder Archie: Other aliens/mutants like Malinga, Null, Verminator X |
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The most interesting parts of any Turtles incarnation have always come after Shredder's been dealt with.
I see no reason why the same can't apply to IDW, Nick or any future versions. Last edited by Cipher; 11-24-2013 at 07:45 PM. |
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The Agenda of Existing
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IDW feels a lot more like a regular super hero-like comic book, so I doubt Shredder will ever die permanently. I'm sure if he is killed off he'll reappear again, healed from some Mutagen storage he had. A proper Ra's al Ghul.
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While I agree that it feels more like a monthly super hero book than, say, Mirage, and while it's definitely closer to mainstream American comics in the sense that it's a 22-page-per-month, action-oriented series, I still get the sense that they're building a story meant to see major changes over the course of its run. I actually have faith (and hope) that we'll see Shredder bite the dust well before it ends.
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Overlord
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I'm surprised the Archie series had so little Shredder in retrospect. While he was in some of the major arcs as well as the climax of the whole series, he was absent for most of the middle of it.
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Totally agree with this, with the exception of maybe the film series. Surely it could have been better, but it wasn't back in the day. & while I may not prefer Dregg's run over Shredders, one could certainly argue that Red Sky plots were more interesting, though not necessarily entertaining. Is that a contradiction to say? I just mean they're unique.
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And then you have other versions where I'd argue that the post-Shredder stories were actually more interesting and an objective improvement, though your mileage may vary. (Mirage, Adventures after #25 when Shredder's mostly left the scene, the fourth season of the 4Kids series, etc.) And obviously I'd forgotten about the film series when I said that. But that's kind of a unique case. And, for that matter, one of my favorite things about the mediocre 2007 movie was that it took place after Shredder had apparently been killed. |
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Overlord
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Nick is obviously going to keep Shredder till the very end. He's way too much of a big bad in this series, and the Turtles haven't even managed to defeat him even once in battle yet.
IDW will probably axe him at some point....but then bring him back like 20 issues later. |
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Well Shredder can die but technically the Dragon soul will live on so he'll just be reincarnated. As someone else who isn't evil of course as Saki didn't start out evil until he was betrayed. My bro suggested he become Shadow and the Turtles must struggled with rather loving her or killing her in fear she may become a threat once again. But eh just tossing some ideas around.
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Super Shredder.
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not sure, but the foot is always a good reliable enemy. i do hope that they come up with a few "new" quality villains too. Hobb is good, but not strong enough to be anything more than an annoyance. i never really cared for mirage's nobody character. he was ok, but felt fabricated for the sake of fabrication.
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...It's an interesting topic because it forces the reader/viewer to think about these Turtles more than just within the confines of their "Hatfield-McCoy" family feud. Plus, it's relatable because it parallels the emotional questioning that some readers/viewers encounter when a long-term relationship (family member, friendship, dating partner/spouse), a career/occupation path, or a particular long-term hardship (financial strain, abusive relationships, health problems, etc.) ends, which was so integrated into one's identity or way of living is suddenly gone. Quote:
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If Dregg had a little more depth and a unique backstory, besides being similar to Power Rangers' Lord Zedd, he could have been a better received super villain. Last edited by Refractive Reflections; 11-25-2013 at 12:40 PM. |
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Bishop, Null, Savanti Romero, Armaggon, Verminator X, Ultimate Ninja, Stockman, Complete Carnage, Purple Dragons...
I thinks it's possible to do bigger story arcs, with any of them, if fact, most of them already had bigger arcs. If you just want to continue the Foot's story, you got Karai as a leader, maybe as Lady Shredder. Or how bout Hun taking over NYC underground? (well, 4Kids had that in the later seasons actually, Hun growing into a major player, from Shredder's hitman) With that reincernation stuff, IDW have some interesthing possibilities, like bringing back other players from Shredder's medieval past. Or imagine, Shredder reincernating as April & Casey's baby... If IDW later introduces time travel, some sick stuff could happen. |
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Really its only been the comics (and to a lesser degree 4kids) in which removing Shredder hasn't really alienated the fanbase. Comics have an older audience and are open to new antagonists. But the key to removing Shredder is to have built a loyal fanbase that's willing to accept new dimensions.
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