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Old 12-02-2013, 12:34 PM   #21
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Only value in the Wii U for me is the Zelda games. I don't have much interest in anything else. Zelda U is going to be coming out eventually, but when that is, nobody knows.
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Old 12-02-2013, 12:42 PM   #22
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Wii U will surely be dead before next Christmas.
Should be able to pick one up for cheap with all the games you want then. Just like what happened with the gamecube.
ps4 and xbox one are just superior consoles for power, so Nintendo is going to struggle with the Wii U unless they do something.
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Old 12-02-2013, 02:17 PM   #23
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I'd wager not.
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Old 12-02-2013, 02:20 PM   #24
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Wishful thinking?
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Old 12-02-2013, 04:50 PM   #25
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The most recent console i own is a PSone so I feel that I'm more than qualified to speak to the death of console gaming....

I'm just jestin'....I got nothin' to say because I don't know squat.
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Old 12-03-2013, 12:24 AM   #26
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There will always be people who want to play real games. If the industry stays as bloated and awful as it does now, or it shrinks by millions and goes back to N64/PS1 numbers, there will always be room in the world for console games as long as having a physical box under your TV makes sense.
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Old 12-03-2013, 12:30 AM   #27
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Wii U will surely be dead before next Christmas.
No matter how poorly the Wii-U might sell overall, its likely still going to have at least a 5 year cycle. Nintendo isn't Sega, they're not going to kill off the Wii-U and release a new console to see it flop even harder.

Although its possible the Wii-U will only do Gamecube numbers in terms of overall sales. I guess we'll see next year when Donkey Kong, Mario Kart and Smash come out if sales pick up.
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Old 12-03-2013, 09:13 AM   #28
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If sales don't pick up to some extent with 3D World there's a huge problem. Smash and Kart will move consoles, but Donkey Kong won't even budge the needle. We already know 3D World absolutely f*cking tanked in Japan, selling less than even SM64 did at its launch, but Japan seems more and more like an absolute wasteland for console games, or anything that isn't a phone game in general.
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Old 12-03-2013, 09:16 AM   #29
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As of now, I am through with consoles.


Recent sales data for WiiU and Ps4 have been quite low, but the Xbox One's doing fairly well.
So this means the console on top is a pile of trash selling in brand name recognition alone. If that's the case, I'm done with consoles, which are probably doomed anyway. Anyone else agree with me about consoles.
This is the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard. PS4 is selling way harder than Xbox One.

Sony and Microsoft One both claimed to sell a million units in their first day.
Sony did that while launching just US and Canada, while Xbox did that while launching in 13 different countries (including the UK and Japan). THEN Sony launched in the UK and sold a quarter million units in 48 hours - the biggest console launch in UK history. So, worldwide, PS4 is outselling Xbox One, with far less territory.

And PS4 hasn't even launched in Japan, yet, where the Xbox isn't even competitive.


The Wii U is in trouble, though. Everyone hoped Wii U would pick up when the games came, but it hasn't worked. Super Smash Bros and Mario Kart are the last big Nintendo franchises yet to arrive on Wii U. It's all up to those two games.
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Old 12-03-2013, 09:18 AM   #30
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If we're going to have this discussion can we not turn it into a f*cking console wars thread? You god damn people.

This isn't about the health of a single console, but the health of the industry as a whole.
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Old 12-03-2013, 09:21 AM   #31
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If we're going to have this discussion can we not turn it into a f*cking console wars thread? You god damn people.

This isn't about the health of a single console, but the health of the industry as a whole.
My bad. I thought two consoles launched last month.
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Old 12-03-2013, 02:01 PM   #32
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Entirely besides the point. Arguing that sh*t, even if one party is as woefully incorrect as he is, leads to nothing but warrior mentality. You're not necessarily going to do it, but you were the first one to start it, so let's not.
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Old 12-03-2013, 02:43 PM   #33
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Wii U will surely be dead before next Christmas.
Should be able to pick one up for cheap with all the games you want then. Just like what happened with the gamecube.
ps4 and xbox one are just superior consoles for power, so Nintendo is going to struggle with the Wii U unless they do something.
I thought I remembered reading somewhere (GameInformer??) that Nintendo's business model was to sell the system very inexpensively (basically at a loss) and as soon as the consumer purchased their first game it then became profitable. But when the company keeps losing planned games due to paying for the port-over wouldn't pay off for those gaming companies it does make it harder to win over new console buyers. Maybe if they can bring in more new customers with their bigger titles that are coming up they could turn it around (I personally don't see it happening). But honestly I don't see how they could afford to sell them much cheaper and stay afloat. However, I do see how the secondary market for Wii-U could become very affordable in the not too distant future. Just my couple of pennies...
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Old 12-03-2013, 02:56 PM   #34
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Wii U will surely be dead before next Christmas.
Should be able to pick one up for cheap with all the games you want then. Just like what happened with the gamecube.
ps4 and xbox one are just superior consoles for power, so Nintendo is going to struggle with the Wii U unless they do something.
Dude, really? The Wii U is a powerful system.... It just needs a game to use it's full power.... I'm sure that the Zelda U developers are working on useing all of it's power... same if retro studios makes another metroid game It'll be the same way.... People where saying the same thing about the 3DS....
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Old 12-03-2013, 05:08 PM   #35
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Entirely besides the point. Arguing that sh*t, even if one party is as woefully incorrect as he is, leads to nothing but warrior mentality. You're not necessarily going to do it, but you were the first one to start it, so let's not.
Pardon me, thread master. I'll try to remember that console wars are wholly irrelevant to the health of the industry. Let's keep things civil, here, because f*ck, sh*t, and god damn.
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Old 12-03-2013, 05:14 PM   #36
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I thought I remembered reading somewhere (GameInformer??) that Nintendo's business model was to sell the system very inexpensively (basically at a loss) and as soon as the consumer purchased their first game it then became profitable.
That's what they all do.
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Old 12-03-2013, 05:15 PM   #37
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Pardon me, thread master. I'll try to remember that console wars are wholly irrelevant to the health of the industry. Let's keep things civil, here, because f*ck, sh*t, and god damn.
I like this quote
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Old 12-03-2013, 05:16 PM   #38
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Pardon me, thread master. I'll try to remember that console wars are wholly irrelevant to the health of the industry. Let's keep things civil, here, because f*ck, sh*t, and god damn.
Sales Figures = Relevant
"PS4/XB1/WIIU is teh best console and the others suck" = Flame Bait.

He's just saying (in his own special way) that you weren't deep in the "Flame Bait" ballpark, but it could open the flood gates.
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Old 12-03-2013, 05:51 PM   #39
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Pardon me, thread master. I'll try to remember that console wars are wholly irrelevant to the health of the industry. Let's keep things civil, here, because f*ck, sh*t, and god damn.
F*ck civility. We've never been civil in this section, we've never pretended to be. We've also always sh*t on people who use numbers to measure dicks. Want to use numbers to back up a relevant opinion in a thread relevant to your opinion? No problem. Want to argue about the quality of a game, but have no real opinions/arguments of your own and then post a bunch of review scores to justify it? Go f*ck yourself.

Your post had sh*t all to do with the topic at hand, it was just dick waving over sold numbers on two consoles. Also, the context to which I was referring to console wars doesn't = consoles fighting for supremacy. It was console wars = clowns arguing with other clowns to justify their purchasing decisions. In that instance, yes, console wars are wholly irrelevant to the topic at hand.

And a very hearty VG Section "Pfffft!" to your typical "I'm above all your Internet bullsh*t lawl!" response. We've seen far better.
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Old 12-03-2013, 06:09 PM   #40
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Like TV, there's nothing like the experience of a big screen that provides a realistic experience. In away, playing games in front of a huge monitor will remain for quite sometime. That said, the standalone console unit may eventually disappear, since today's TVs can connect online, and once that becomes user-friendly enough, games will become primarly download. But remember that in the music industry, the CD isn't totally dead just yet despite being out of vogue for about a decade now, so there will still be a devoted niche audience to consoles/discs for awhile.
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