Would you rather the series end early or...

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Gwydion

Eh, I'm so used to bad endings by now, they don't much bother me anymore. I want it to last as long as it's good. If it stops being good early, end it. If it manages to stay good a long time but just isn't pulling in the ratings and they have to end it at a bad spot? Oh well. Been there before. So I guess I'd go the second option if I had to choose.

I know it's not right but...Let's milk this sucker dry!!



sure Young Justice would have ended better if it stopped in season 1...but then we wouldn't have all those cool characters in season 2 (even if it was a little crazy)

so if the series does start to go bad~ I'll just enjoy the episodes before it went bad...and maybe even enjoy some of the good episodes in the bad seasons! and if it ends on a cliffhanger...it's time to use your IMAGINATION~

ideally...it lasts LOOOONG and ends GOOD!

[plastroncafe]

My hope is that the quality stays high, and that there's some semblance of closure.

Here's also to hoping that they don't pull a Cartoon Network and pull the plug when the female fanbase gets too big, a la "Symbiotic Titan," "Young Justice," and "Green Lantern TAS."

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

My hope is that the quality stays high, and that there's some semblance of closure.

Here's also to hoping that they don't pull a Cartoon Network and pull the plug when the female fanbase gets too big, a la "Symbiotic Titan," "Young Justice," and "Green Lantern TAS."

I refuse to believe that happened...that would just be....ugh....

I mean, lots of boys like My little Pony and you don't see Hasbro pulling the plug cause they have an extra unexpected audience.

[plastroncafe]

The extra unexpected audience is the golden calf of audiences when it comes to My Little Pony. The marketing geniuses that work for the merch departments of the Cartoon Network apparently have no idea how to market their properties to the unexpected female audience.

It's been stated before that both GL and Symbionic Titan were canceled due to "Poor toy projections." Paul Dini was recently quoted on the Kevin Smith "Fatman on Batman" podcast saying that Cartoon Network cancels shows because they don't want a girl market.

Much the same way some clothing stores won't carry certain sizes: They only wish to cater to a certain portion of the population.

I want to think that Nick's TMNT show won't suffer a similar fate, given that it's not on the Cartoon Network, but judging by how much flack the Network gave the "Legend of Korra" for having a broad audience appeal...well, who knows?

[Dirty Blond]

I hope Ciro makes good on his intention to follow the example of the vaunted source material by leaving it in limbo for the better part of a decade.

[victory_angel]

The TMNT series deserves a good ending, but it has enough potential to continue on for a good number of seasons.


I mean yeah the Donnie/April/Casey triangle looks like its gearing up to mirror the relationship that Splinter and Shredder had with Teng Shen. And that would make for an interesting twist, particularly with how Splinter deals with it as well as the Trio in question. But at the same time, there is only so many ways you can drag that plot out before your beating a dead horse.

Same thing with the Karai is actually Miwa thing. Karai is eventually going to learn the truth and that's going to be it's own can of worms. Again there is only so long that you can drag out that plot before she finally accepts that Splinter is her father.

But even if these plots are resolved by the end of season two there is still many other plot lines and situations that can be used to run the series at least five seasons if not more.

[BubblyShell22]

I remember reading that Ciro stated they do have an ending planned once the series is over and he stated that he's left it in a way that it can still continue if others want to do so. So I would say have a proper ending and give us some closure while still being able to continue the story if need be.

[beavercartoon]

I would prefer a more concrete final episode, to just cancelled with several loose plot threads dangling. I'm sure fans will still find things to talk about, regardless of how long the show runs and how complete its resolution is.

I mean yeah the Donnie/April/Casey triangle looks like its gearing up to mirror the relationship that Splinter and Shredder had with Teng Shen. And that would make for an interesting twist, particularly with how Splinter deals with it as well as the Trio in question. But at the same time, there is only so many ways you can drag that plot out before your beating a dead horse.

This I don't understand at all. It does not mirror their relationship for a couple of reasons: Donnie and Casey are not friends (the way Hamato Yoshi and Oroku Saki used to pal around before either of them met Tang Shen.) I also cannot ever picture Donatello becoming homicidal because a woman spurned his affections. He would be hurt, but I think he would acknowledge that April can ultimately make her own decisions, and eventually reach a conclusion that she should do what makes her happy, even if it's not what Donnie wanted. That was the point of Splinter's "learn to like falling" lesson, that nobody can make another being love something they don't enjoy, and it is wrong to try and force them. Donnie is young and it's sometimes hard for him to keep his emotions in check and be objective, but unlike Oroku Saki, Donnie demonstrates a willingness to learn AND to empathize with others.

It's practically an insult to all of their characterizations to imply that the Donnie/April/Casey love triangle is just the same as Splinter/Tang Shen/Shredder. The only parallel is that two guys like the same girl. This happens frequently in media. Naruto and Rock Lee were both in love with Sakura. Does this mean that Rock Lee will eventually go crazy if Naruto and Sakura get together? No, because they respect each other. Or for the 'two girls fighting over the same guy' version, you have Sakura and Ino crushing on Sasuke. It gets to the point that they become rivals and dislike each other, but neither one would go so far as to murder the other girl, and they end up rekindling their friendship eventually.

For American comics, you had Wolverine and Cyclops both liking Jean Grey. In movies, the hero of TRON still was interested in his ex-girlfriend even after she started dating Alan. Twilight had Edward and Jacob as love interests for Bella (even though she didn't seem like that great a catch to most readers.) Riker and Worf were both interested in Counselor Troi.

Chip and Dale both flirted with Gadget. Bowser keeps kidnapping Princess Peach because he loves her (hinted in some games, confirmed in others) but Mario and Peach are dating. Yet all three characters are willing to work together at times, and compete in casual sporting events, too. Do you see where I'm going with this?

You can find love triangles, rival ships, whatever you want to call them in every kind of media imaginable. It does not have to be a direct copy of another love triangle. (Does the Harry/Cho/Cedric love triangle play out the same way the Lily/James/Snape did? No, because Harry and Cho never officially get together and Cedric dies. Lily and James marry but then die, and Snape eventually keels over, too. Even though those relationships are from the same book series they are NOT identical. Neither are the TMNT ships.)

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

It's been stated before that both GL and Symbionic Titan were canceled due to "Poor toy projections." Paul Dini was recently quoted on the Kevin Smith "Fatman on Batman" podcast saying that Cartoon Network cancels shows because they don't want a girl market.

Huh, I didn't know the Green Lantern show had a toyline. And wasn't the Young Justice figures from the collector line?

[Shark_Blade]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

My hope is that the quality stays high, and that there's some semblance of closure.

Here's also to hoping that they don't pull a Cartoon Network and pull the plug when the female fanbase gets too big, a la "Symbiotic Titan," "Young Justice," and "Green Lantern TAS."

Yeah it doesn't necessarily mean Nickelodeon shares the same belief/decision as CN, so I wouldn't read into it too much.

[RaphAndDonnie]

On one hand, I really wouldn't want the show to end now, only two seaons in but on the other hand I wouldn't want this show to become the next Spongebob, devoid of the comedy that hooked people on to it when it started. How would there even be a proper ending as of now? I can't even imagine how a proper closing would be given now, with everything going on.

[Ember]

As much as I don't want to think about the show ending, I'd much prefer an ending that ties together all the loose plot strings and gives us a sense of finality. When it does end, I'm confident the franchise will be eventually picked up by someone else.

And maybe then we can get a show more aimed towards older teens and young adults that mirrors some of the comic book series.

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Huh, I didn't know the Green Lantern show had a toyline. And wasn't the Young Justice figures from the collector line?

They didn't, as far as I know. Neither did Symbiotic Titan, but that didn't stop CN from saying toy sales were the reason for the pull.

Which, again thanks to Dini, we now know is code for: There was more of a female audience than they were strictly comfortable with. And girls don't apparently buy things.

Who knew?

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Yeah it doesn't necessarily mean Nickelodeon shares the same belief/decision as CN, so I wouldn't read into it too much.

I can't help but do so, given what I've witnessed.

[CyberCubed]

The show will probably last at least 150 episodes.

The OT made 193 episodes and the 4kids series 156 episodes. TMNT cartoons go on for a long time. I'd expect Nick to make as many episodes as 4kids at the least so 150 episodes.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I agree with the people hoping for both. I don't want the series to end anytime soon, I'm still enjoying what they're doing with it way too much. But I would like it to end with some sense of closure.

Unless things have changed though, that could be an issue anyway. Nickelodeon apparently used to have a major issue with shows acknowledging that they were ending (which is why the real final episode of Angry Beavers was never animated). At the same time though, they certainly let Avatar show that it was ending - Korra aside of course - so who knows.

[snake]

I picked set ending. I don't want the series to go on so long that the episodes are boring and the show is struggling for ideas. Kinda like the OT and 2K3.

[cryan]

Originally Posted by blindturtle02

Yeah there ya go dude. Don't get me started on all the kickbutt shows that have gotten canceled out of the clear blue over the last few years with no satisfying endings. I hope I get to have my cake and eat it too with this show, however. It should last a pretty good while and have an epic yet satisfying ending. Perhaps this one will go on for a long time since Nick has been intelligent regarding renewing it so far. I wanna say I read or heard somewhere recently that Siro said they already had an ending mapped out in case it wasn't renewed for a 4th season.

Too true. I remember being bummed that the Saturday morning version of Sonic The Hedgehog got the axe and it was an outstanding series and was left open ended. As For TMNT if they have a plan for it to end give a proper ending.