Setting the record straight: The director is Jonathan Liebesman, NOT Michael Bay. - Page 3

Dirty Blond · 01-31-2014, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I have a question that has been boggling the mind for a while:

People claim Bay has ALL the say and Liebesman is just his puppet, right? That as producer Bay is pulling Liebesman's strings, yes?

So....who's responsible for the crime against the Transformers? Everyone is quick to shout. "BAY!" but he was just the director...and as we've already postulated above he's just the puppet. So who was his puppet master? Hmm...I wonder....

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What....that can't be right. That guy's one of the "good ones." The ones that always come up when people say, "Michael Bay's no BETTER DIRECTOR HERE."

So, which is it? Is Michael Bay to blame for EVERYTHING or does the director indeed have more say than some are giving him credit?

Michael Bay both exec-produced and directed Transformers.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0418279/...s?ref_=tt_ql_1

**Jester** · 01-31-2014, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Blond

Michael Bay both exec-produced and directed Transformers.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0418279/...s?ref_=tt_ql_1

Thanks...now I kind of wonder if Spielberg just has his name in the credits.

Dirty Blond · 01-31-2014, 10:26 PM

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Thanks...now I kind of wonder if Spielberg just has his name in the credits.

Kind of like Tiny Toon Adventures and Animaniacs?

**Jester** · 01-31-2014, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Blond

Kind of like Tiny Toon Adventures and Animaniacs?

To hear Paulsen tell it, Spielberg had quite a bit of behind the scenes interaction on those shows.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 02-01-2014, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

Imagine if Spielberg was directing this thing.

I would definitely get on board with that. Or Lucas, for that matter. Heck, how about Del Toro? Imagine the TMNT movie we'd have gotten from the producers/director of the Hellboy movies.....

Kurai · 02-01-2014, 02:30 AM

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I would definitely get on board with that. Or Lucas, for that matter. Heck, how about Del Toro? Imagine the TMNT movie we'd have gotten from the producers/director of the Hellboy movies.....

You mean George Lucas there, right?

Don't get me wrong, I love Star Wars. Heck, the original 3 Star Wars films are my favorite films of all time. But the Star Wars prequels, while they had some good ideas, were poorly executed because George Lucas had way too much control and there wasn't anyone on board to tell him 'No George, that's a bad idea'. Those films relied too heavily on CGI, with pretty much everything being CG. While a bit of CG is okay, with the Star Wars prequels you can tell that they aren't really there, so it affects your suspension of disbelief.

So yeah, I don't think that letting George Lucas direct a TMNT film is a good idea unless he wasn't in control of every little detail (i.e. the Star Wars prequels)

*turtlefanforever* · 02-01-2014, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

I would definitely get on board with that. Or Lucas, for that matter. Heck, how about Del Toro? Imagine the TMNT movie we'd have gotten from the producers/director of the Hellboy movies.....

I loved the hell boy films. I think they'd put a good product out there.

MiBs · 02-02-2014, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

I would definitely get on board with that. Or Lucas, for that matter. Heck, how about Del Toro? Imagine the TMNT movie we'd have gotten from the producers/director of the Hellboy movies.....

I'm a big fan of Guillermo del Toro. Think he could make a great TMNT movie

*TigerClaw* · 02-02-2014, 08:35 AM

What about Gareth Evans? The director of The Raid Redemption and its sequel Raid 2? What TMNT needs is a director who makes martial arts films. Considering that the fight scenes in this movie we heard are inspired by The Raid Redemption.

*turtlefanforever* · 02-02-2014, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

What about Gareth Evans? The director of The Raid Redemption and its sequel Raid 2? What TMNT needs is a director who makes martial arts films. Considering that the fight scenes in this movie we heard are inspired by The Raid Redemption.

We're a del toro family now.

just joshin but I wouldn't really be on board with that. I feel that it'd be the same as this one coming out. And those movies weren't much of a hit internationally. I'd like big names but good big names. Or a bunch of little products but very good.

*ObiWanFan4life* · 02-02-2014, 12:56 PM

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We're a del toro family now.

just joshin but I wouldn't really be on board with that. I feel that it'd be the same as this one coming out. And those movies weren't much of a hit internationally. I'd like big names but good big names. Or a bunch of little products but very good.

Why not? Guillermo Del Toro has experience with comic book characters (Blade II, Hellboy, Hellboy II).

*turtlefanforever* · 02-02-2014, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ObiWanFan4life

Why not? Guillermo Del Toro has experience with comic book characters (Blade II, Hellboy, Hellboy II).

I love del toro! I was completely on board with a del toro tmnt film. I was saying not the one he suggested. I loved hell boy, I picture the movie would be a lot like the golden army.

*ObiWanFan4life* · 02-02-2014, 01:00 PM

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I love del toro! I was completely on board with a del toro tmnt film. I was saying not the one he suggested. I loved hell boy, I picture the movie would be a lot like the golden army.

Still, Gareth Edwards is a decent director, Godzilla ( A movie which I'm looking forward to MUCH MORE) might be proof of this.

TerranigmaFreak · 02-02-2014, 04:41 PM

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Still, Gareth Edwards is a decent director, Godzilla ( A movie which I'm looking forward to MUCH MORE) might be proof of this.

I'm a fan at both the TMNT and Godzilla community and the reactions to their perspective movies is like night and day. Everybody appreciates what's being done with the Godzilla movies even if not everyone agrees with everything. And then there's TMNT...

*ObiWanFan4life* · 02-02-2014, 05:05 PM

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I'm a fan at both the TMNT and Godzilla community and the reactions to their perspective movies is like night and day. Everybody appreciates what's being done with the Godzilla movies even if not everyone agrees with everything. And then there's TMNT...

Well Godzilla has Bryan Cranston In the cast, and Frank Darabont writing it, so there's that.

*turtlefanforever* · 02-02-2014, 05:06 PM

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Still, Gareth Edwards is a decent director, Godzilla ( A movie which I'm looking forward to MUCH MORE) might be proof of this.

But that's a movie that's kinda hard to screw up, ya know? Not saying it can't be done. With tmnt you stick to the basics you normally come out with a great product which isn't what they are doing with this. The last Godzilla film is proof you can screw it up though. There are few markee franchises where it is so incredibly easy to make a film from, Godzilla being one of them basically writes itself But at the same time gotta have the right people behind them.

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