WHY?! Explanations of why you defend or are repulsed by the designs

[allie300]

The clothes makes it seem like their trying too hard we get it,Donnie's the nerd Mikey's the party dude Raph's the tough guy and Leo's the leader,but there's more to these characters than those caricatures it's like they've become caricatures of their caricatures.And the less I say about their hideous facial features the better.

[Cowabunga Carl]

But why? Why should the TMNT be limited to only being naked? I mean seriously, tell me that the clothes you guys chose to wear doesn't in some way reflect who you are.

[Candy Kappa]

A simple personalized belt would have been so much better. Leonardo could have had a more traditional Obi belt, Donnie could have a more handyman/utility belt for his stuff, Mikey could have a more contemporary belt, fancy buckle and some custom works to hold his chucks. Raph could have had a broader belt a little bit like a strongman belt.

Boom! Personalized without getting insane busy designs.

[Jester]

Yeah it's more the over-personalized. I mean Nick found a way to make them look unique without making it ridiculous.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Cowabunga Carl

But why? Why should the TMNT be limited to only being naked? I mean seriously, tell me that the clothes you guys chose to wear doesn't in some way reflect who you are.

exactly what i have been trying to say its and extension of their personalities and perfectly fit with what i could imagine them wearing.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

A simple personalized belt would have been so much better. Leonardo could have had a more traditional Obi belt, Donnie could have a more handyman/utility belt for his stuff, Mikey could have a more contemporary belt, fancy buckle and some custom works to hold his chucks. Raph could have had a broader belt a little bit like a strongman belt.

Boom! Personalized without getting insane busy designs.

Originally Posted by Jester

Yeah it's more the over-personalized. I mean Nick found a way to make them look unique without making it ridiculous.

but as Being partially Human they may have the tendency like every one else to do more then just accessories. People hate uniformity for the most part people love individuality and belt wouldn't just cut it in a real world setting, I'm just saying if i was in their situation i would do much more then change my belt common your whole wardrobe is and extension of your personality not just the accessories

[Candy Kappa]

Do we know that they are partially human?

As far as we know the movie might use the Mirage origin which means they are turtles mutated into a highly intelligent bipedal form with pose able thumbs, but still not human.

One might argue that the Fred wolf and the nick turtles are partially human by the design of the mutagen and the way it mutates it's victim. And the IDW turtles are human in memory as they were the reincarnated children of Hamato Yoshi.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Do we know that they are partially human?

As far as we know the movie might use the Mirage origin which means they are turtles mutated into a highly intelligent bipedal form with pose able thumbs, but still not human.

One might argue that the Fred wolf and the nick turtles are partially human by the design of the mutagen and the way it mutates it's victim. And the IDW turtles are human in memory as they were the reincarnated children of Hamato Yoshi.

lets put it this way why would there master wear traditional robes but the turtle are naked save a few belts and leather straps and masks?

why is it so hard to grasp the turtles where personalized clothing'

its not like the haven't before

And its also obvious the have human tendencies and minds just as that is the way they're structured and have always been.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by Cowabunga Carl

But why? Why should the TMNT be limited to only being naked? I mean seriously, tell me that the clothes you guys chose to wear doesn't in some way reflect who you are.

It's been working for 30 years, if if ain't broke don't fix it. If anything simplify it don't add more useless s***

Originally Posted by Jester

Yeah it's more the over-personalized. I mean Nick found a way to make them look unique without making it ridiculous.

Yes agree it's too over the top. And completely disagree with the latter statement. Theirs unique no doubt. You can crap in a box and write unique on it, it's still crap. Their designs are in fact completely ridiculous.

[Refractive Reflections]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

but as Being partially Human they may have the tendency like every one else to do more then just accessories. People hate uniformity for the most part people love individuality and belt wouldn't just cut it in a real world setting, I'm just saying if i was in their situation i would do much more then change my belt common your whole wardrobe is and extension of your personality not just the accessories

If it was normal street wearing clothes, maybe I could see your point, even though its pigeon-holing these characters into extreme visual stereotyping. But I guess we are to assume these are their "fighting" clothes (right?), so why would aesthetic fashion be a preference over practicality/usefulness in fighting situations? It doesn't seem very logical, much less fit with Splinter's principles, in wearing such ostentatious gear when they could be hindrances/distractions to the Turtles in such lethal brawls.

Or let me put it this way, do you see military soldiers, martial arts experts, or even "ninjas" who are prepared for fighting/battle try to personalize their clothes? Especially to such a gaudy extreme? So why should the Turtles do so in these fighting situations, if we're to take their "ninja" fighting seriously?

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections

If it was normal street wearing clothes, maybe I could see your point, even though its pigeon-holing these characters into extreme visual stereotyping. But I guess we are to assume these are their "fighting" clothes (right?), so why would aesthetic fashion be a preference over practicality/usefulness in fighting situations? It doesn't seem very logical, much less fit with Splinter's principles, in wearing such ostentatious gear when they could be hindrances/distractions to the Turtles in such lethal brawls.

I'm not quite sure if its for practicality for for appearances. I just feel as thought they have decided to dress the way they have because they have just for that reason nothing more nothing less and thinking it ridiculous for them to do this is extreme as if they were real they would in fact do this. I have seen people dress in clothes some might consider weird I in fact have dresses in clothes other have considered weird in away to express myself but there is nothing wrong with that everyone does it.

Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections

Or let me put it this way, do you see military soldiers, martial arts experts, or even "ninjas" who are prepared for fighting/battle try to personalize their clothes? Especially to such a gaudy extreme? So why should the Turtles do so in these fighting situations, if we're to take their "ninja" fighting seriously?

Yes i do. Samurai would wear ornamental samurai armor going into battle based on their clan and their person. Soldiers especially the more specialized military customize there gear and clothing to fit both situation and personality. I just don't feel its gaudy that like saying the kid that happens to like to dress a certain way is wrong and stupid and that's a wrong way of think that lead to people getting hurt. The fact of the matter is we haven't seen them in action they take off all the gear for battle for they may wear more gear for battle we just dont know yet but for what we do know its not the extreme and many are saying it just and expression which there is nothing wrong with.

[slingtheory]

what I don't get is if this is supposed to be about them just being teenagers and trying to express themselves who are they expressing themselves to. each other? splinter? they're ninjas and more importantly they're mutant outcasts from society. splinter usually makes it clear that they're not supposed to be seen by people. ever. even when they do start meeting humans only a handful of people know they exist and most of them want them dead. who are they showing off their style to exactly

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by slingtheory

what I don't get is if this is supposed to be about them just being teenagers and trying to express themselves who are they expressing themselves to. each other? splinter? they're ninjas and more importantly they're mutant outcasts from society. splinter usually makes it clear that they're not supposed to be seen by people. ever. even when they do start meeting humans only a handful of people know they exist and most of them want them dead. who are they showing off their style to exactly

if you lock a person in a tower and tell them they cant connect with anyone go outside of leave do they stop expressing themselves?? no. if you weren't allowed outside would you stop dressing the way you wanted??? no

If anything they will project the personality more.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections

If it was normal street wearing clothes, maybe I could see your point, even though its pigeon-holing these characters into extreme visual stereotyping. But I guess we are to assume these are their "fighting" clothes (right?), so why would aesthetic fashion be a preference over practicality/usefulness in fighting situations? It doesn't seem very logical, much less fit with Splinter's principles, in wearing such ostentatious gear when they could be hindrances/distractions to the Turtles in such lethal brawls.

Or let me put it this way, do you see military soldiers, martial arts experts, or even "ninjas" who are prepared for fighting/battle try to personalize their clothes? Especially to such a gaudy extreme? So why should the Turtles do so in these fighting situations, if we're to take their "ninja" fighting seriously?

It seems more of a restraint for battle and its not like they go out in public like that. Who exactly are they expressing their personalities too? Each other? They already know what they're like.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

It seems more of a restraint for battle and its not like they go out in public like that. Who exactly are they expressing their personalities too? Each other? They already know what they're like.

if were going to get into that just having a plastron and a carapace would prevent any acrobatic movement really so whats your point?

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

if you lock a person in a tower and tell them they cant connect with anyone go outside of leave do they stop expressing themselves?? no. if you weren't allowed outside would you stop dressing the way you wanted??? no

If anything they will project the personality more.

if I wasn't allowed outside I'd probably stop dressing period but that's just me

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by slingtheory

if I wasn't allowed outside I'd probably stop dressing period but that's just me

lol well lol. Any way im think more along the lines of Rapunzel or other stories of people not allowed out they barely ever stop dressing the way they want and each one has there own personality. i see leo as cosplaying as a samurai or ninja using supplies he has around because that what he has and thats what he want to look like. For a long while i used to wear and trench coat then i dressed like a pirate people who new me didnt think it was wierd just who i was and while i dress more "normal" know i will jump at a chance to dress like a pirate

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Originally Posted by slingtheory

what I don't get is if this is supposed to be about them just being teenagers and trying to express themselves who are they expressing themselves to. each other? splinter? they're ninjas and more importantly they're mutant outcasts from society. splinter usually makes it clear that they're not supposed to be seen by people. ever. even when they do start meeting humans only a handful of people know they exist and most of them want them dead. who are they showing off their style to exactly

Themselves. It makes them FEEL that they fit in with the humans above even though they know they never will....maybe it just makes them feel better about themselves. They just want to do it. Have you never done something because you wanted to do it, regardless of if it was pointless or not?

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

if were going to get into that just having a plastron and a carapace would prevent any acrobatic movement really so whats your point?

The same thing worked (and to great avail I might add) for 30 years. Why would you change that.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by Raphael_9859

Themselves. It makes them FEEL that they fit in with the humans above even though they know they never will....maybe it just makes them feel better about themselves. They just want to do it. Have you never dine something because you wanted to do it, regardless of if it was pointless or not?

Go to NYC, walk around, and tell me how many people you see wearing samurai armor, a laser cannon strapped to their back, sweater ties around their waist, or a loincloth. ... Go ahead... I'm waiting