Official Movie Poster

[GrapeSoda]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

WHAT??? All im saying is many properties that have done fairly well in the past Were judge scrutinized and picked to peaces before their release, And yet These movies turned out great.

taste is subjective. just because you may like something, or it is a blockbuster to the lowest common denominator doesn't mean that it is great.

there are plenty of films that are still reviled for their onscreen depictions of popular characters...not to mention their horrible scripts.

i LOATHE the Michael Bay Transformers films. i didn't like the designs, or the script of the original, and i felt insulted by what i watched onscreen as a Transformers fan.

i'm a bigger fan of G.I.Joe than i am of TF or TMNT (as per my avatar) and the G.I.Joe films are HORRIBLE! The first film is unwatchable, i can't get past the scene with the PS2 era CGI plane flying over the desert.

the Nightmare on Elm Street reboot was just awful. the look of freddy, the script, and the acting were painful to slog through.

I recently saw the Friday the 13th reboot.....Jason is my favorite schlocky movie slasher. While it's hard to muck up such a simple design as a big dude in a hockey mask, the rest of that film was just bad.

the Texas Chainsaw films of recent are AWFUL! the tension is fake and the jump scares are predictable. there were bigger plotholes in them that you could drive a peterbuilt semi through.

we can go classic, too. Masters of the Universe, Double Dragon, Super Mario Bros.....if the internet was as available to everyone back then as it is today, people would be just was upset about how those films were coming together.

just because you think Mudflaps and Skids are funny, doesn't mean everyone else thinks those movies are "great".

[GrapeSoda]

my main problem with this "movie poster" design and the designs with the turtles is beyond the bulky shells and lips. it's that there is no subtlety with the designs. everything the turtles are wearing screams "platinum dunes" in the worst way.

the personas here are hamfistedly pounded into our eyesockets. there is no depth to the characters, even though a lot of people know the characteristics of the turtles. a better story writer could reveal that Don is a techie and into inventing things without making him look like the Borg.....y'know, the way that the franchise has done since Fred Wolf.

what is really scary is knowing the studio that is holding the reigns to this film, and how they have no problem with insulting racial stereotypes and poor attempts at "comedy".

i, personally think the franchise deserves better than "the Dunes" treatment....30+ years have proven that there are great stories in the Turtle-verse (as well as some clunkers).

[TigerClaw]

You can argue that people like movies of the so bad its good quality.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

You can argue that people like movies of the so bad its good quality.

And that's fine. No one is saying one can't like bad movies. Plenty of bad movies I like out there.

But they ARE bad. And to suggest that just because somebody calls a bad movie bad then that means they hate everything is LUDICROUS.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by GrapeSoda

taste is subjective. just because you may like something, or it is a blockbuster to the lowest common denominator doesn't mean that it is great.

IM talking about many other movies, Fans tore Ironman apart before it was released and no love it as a film spider-man was picked to pieces and was a great film. And im not saying it cant go the other way some movie are hailed until they are released and seen and fans come to find it was less then worthy of their praise. But in order to judge those things correctly you have to view them for your self.

there are plenty of films that are still reviled for their onscreen depictions of popular characters...not to mention their horrible scripts.

IM not saying there aren't.

i LOATHE the Michael Bay Transformers films. i didn't like the designs, or the script of the original, and i felt insulted by what i watched onscreen as a Transformers fan.

I really don't get so people thoughts on these movies really what were you expecting from fighting robots???
I am a huge transformers Fan have been since i was little, but really there isn't much to transformers it was a show for kinds for them to see fighting robots and that was about it. Now i understand there are some long running stories but a lot of episode were just filler fights and that's about it Good vz Evil. There were certain stories told that where very well done with an amazing story being told and they had a great movie made but those were kind of exceptions. But that's the kind of show it was. that and all the moral stuff to teach kids lessons. but its not award winning stuff
I loved all the transformers movies for what they were.
Personally i love their designs minus a couple things like Optimus's mouth that's kind of odd but even before he was Optimus Prime he had a mouth

i'm a bigger fan of G.I.Joe than i am of TF or TMNT (as per my avatar) and the G.I.Joe films are HORRIBLE! The first film is unwatchable, i can't get past the scene with the PS2 era CGI plane flying over the desert.

I agree the first film wasn't what i was expecting but i still enjoyed it I love the second one the Battle with storm shadow and snake eyes that honored silent interlude was amazing

the Nightmare on Elm Street reboot was just awful. the look of freddy, the script, and the acting were painful to slog through.

I recently saw the Friday the 13th reboot.....Jason is my favorite schlocky movie slasher. While it's hard to muck up such a simple design as a big dude in a hockey mask, the rest of that film was just bad.

the Texas Chainsaw films of recent are AWFUL! the tension is fake and the jump scares are predictable. there were bigger plotholes in them that you could drive a peterbuilt semi through.

Im Not much of a horror film kinda guy to much excessive blood and bad language like that will make a horror better. I agree older horror movies were better but still not much into them

we can go classic, too. Masters of the Universe, Double Dragon, Super Mario Bros.....if the internet was as available to everyone back then as it is today, people would be just was upset about how those films were coming together.

Haven't seen masters of the universe as for the other two the video game movies there hasn't been a very good video game adaptation go judge what a good video game movie should be like so yeah

just because you think Mudflaps and Skids are funny, doesn't mean everyone else thinks those movies are "great".

I kind of take offense to this. If there was one thing i actually 100% disliked about the movie was a racial stereo typing of those to and also the contructabots balls that was totally unnecessary and inappropriate

[GrapeSoda]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

You can argue that people like movies of the so bad its good quality.

this is true....and as someone who "hates everything" i honestly do love BAD BAD BAD movies.

here's a a quick hit list of awful films i truly love: rock n roll nightmare, traxx, unmasking the idol, trick or treat, human tornado, abraham lincoln vampire hunter, elves, and almost everything riffed by MST3K.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

And that's fine. No one is saying one can't like bad movies. Plenty of bad movies I like out there.

But they ARE bad. And to suggest that just because somebody calls a bad movie bad then that means they hate everything is LUDICROUS.

What about movies that are critically claimed as great movies, but then I watch them and think they are utter crap? Two come to mind, Shakespeare in love and Drive. The latter movie I was so disappointed in. The trailers, the reviews, all set this up to be some great movie, and it started out so good, then the chick and her kid showed up and brought the movie to a screeching halt. I won't even get started on Shakespeare, and I thought Gweneth's acting in that was atrocious (but, she won an oscar for it so I must be the one that is an idiot, like oscars don't take bribes and use politics to pick their winners)

[GrapeSoda]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

I kind of take offense to this. If there was one thing i actually 100% disliked about the movie was a racial stereo typing of those to and also the contructabots balls that was totally unnecessary and inappropriate

i wasn't trying to offend you with that comment. and i apologize.

but that is the EXACT kind of thing that i am personally afraid of when it comes to the script of this TMNT film. especially knowing the studio and producer involved with it.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

What about movies that are critically claimed as great movies, but then I watch them and think they are utter crap?

...what about it?

[GrapeSoda]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

What about movies that are critically claimed as great movies, but then I watch them and think they are utter crap? Two come to mind, Shakespeare in love and Drive. The latter movie I was so disappointed in. The trailers, the reviews, all set this up to be some great movie, and it started out so good, then the chick and her kid showed up and brought the movie to a screeching halt. I won't even get started on Shakespeare, and I thought Gweneth's acting in that was atrocious (but, she won an oscar for it so I must be the one that is an idiot, like oscars don't take bribes and use politics to pick their winners)

i feel like i shoulda multi-quoted my replies...hehehe

i agree with you 100%. taste is subjective and relative. i can't stand most "oscar nod" films. i walked out of "inside llewyn davis" because it was like watching paint dry and the protagonist was a douche.

Ghostbusters didn't win an oscar, and that film is the greatest piece of cinema ever filmed.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by GrapeSoda

this is true....and as someone who "hates everything" i honestly do love BAD BAD BAD movies.

here's a a quick hit list of awful films i truly love: rock n roll nightmare, traxx, unmasking the idol, trick or treat, human tornado, abraham lincoln vampire hunter, elves, and almost everything riffed by MST3K.

LOL SHARKNADO lol

Originally Posted by GrapeSoda

i wasn't trying to offend you with that comment. and i apologize.

but that is the EXACT kind of thing that i am personally afraid of when it comes to the script of this TMNT film. especially knowing the studio and producer involved with it.

Its fine This is also something I'm worried about but I'm hoping that doesn't happen. I can't see them putting it in TMNT then again I wouldn't expect that stuff in Transformers either but I'm still being hopeful.

Originally Posted by GrapeSoda

i feel like i shoulda multi-quoted my replies...hehehe

i agree with you 100%. taste is subjective and relative. i can't stand most "oscar nod" films. i walked out of "inside llewyn davis" because it was like watching paint dry and the protagonist was a douche.

Ghostbusters didn't win an oscar, and that film is the greatest piece of cinema ever filmed.

Irony Is I'm literally watching the first and second one right know as I type lol

[Slime State Alumni]

Originally Posted by GrapeSoda

i feel like i shoulda multi-quoted my replies...hehehe

i agree with you 100%. taste is subjective and relative. i can't stand most "oscar nod" films. i walked out of "inside llewyn davis" because it was like watching paint dry and the protagonist was a douche.

Ghostbusters didn't win an oscar, and that film is the greatest piece of cinema ever filmed.

I get the feeling you don't watch many movies.

Like I get it, I like Ghostbusters because I remember it as a child and it was funny and had ghosts and all those cool tech and HEY BILL MURRAY and whatever. But nostalgia aside, calling it the "greatest piece of cinema ever filmed" seems a bit of a hyperbole. Well, ok, a huge hyperbole.

Then again we're all on a forum dedicated to what is fundamentally a huge chunk of nostalgia, so maybe pointing all of this out is sort of like pissing in the ocean.

[Jester]

I know I'm nostalgia blinded, but I think the 1st Turtles movie is one of the best comic book adaptations out there,

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Originally Posted by Jester

I know I'm nostalgia blinded, but I think the 1st Turtles movie is one of the best comic book adaptations out there,

I love it so much...but it's time for a new take on the TMNT

[Candy Kappa]

I don't think that's because of nostalgia goggles, going in details into the first TMNT movie, there's a lot of scenes right out of the comics that being used to create its own story. Very few comic book movies have done that as well as TMNT.

And Ghostbusters are amazing movies, and I am sadden I never got to see them as a kid, something I made sure didn't happen with my kid brothers and they loved both films.

[Slime State Alumni]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

I don't think that's because of nostalgia goggles, going in details into the first TMNT movie, there's a lot of scenes right out of the comics that being used to create its own story. Very few comic book movies have done that as well as TMNT.

And Ghostbusters are amazing movies, and I am sadden I never got to see them as a kid, something I made sure didn't happen with my kid brothers and they loved both films.

Agreed; rewatching it after not having seen it for years, it definitely still holds up as one of the best comic book adaptations. Is it corny sometimes? Sure. Was it a better TMNT movie than it realistically should have been considering the license was at the peek of its popularity? Definitely. Looking back, it amazes me that this movie even turned out the way it did.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Raphael_9859

I love it so much...but it's time for a new take on the TMNT

Just wish it was a new take from people who weren't terrible.

[Jester]

I don't disagree MultiNumberedRaph, but I don't think THIS is it.

The one thing that I think makes the Barron TMNT movie work so well was its surprising amount of subtlety. There are a lot of times where that movie says volumes with a single line of dialogue or an action. It certainly live up to the movie mantra, "Show, don't tell." This movie seems to be telling us an awful lot, and oddly enough it's by...um...showing us. Weird.

[A_Little_Too_Raph.9859]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

Just wish it was a new take from people who weren't terrible.

Originally Posted by Jester

I don't disagree MultiNumberedRaph, but I don't think THIS is it.

The one thing that I think makes the Barron TMNT movie work so well was its surprising amount of subtlety. There are a lot of times where that movie says volumes with a single line of dialogue or an action. It certainly live up to the movie mantra, "Show, don't tell." This movie seems to be telling us an awful lot, and oddly enough it's by...um...showing us. Weird.

I'm willing to give this movie a fair shake. I'm not going to condemn it just because it has names attached to it that people don't like. I happen to like most of Bay and Liebesman's movies. They are popcorn flicks....not meant to earn the academy awards or anything like that. Sure they can have spotty writing here and there but they are not the worst things on the market

[Jester]

Why must everyone who dislikes all the elements we've seen so far and has a reasonable apprehension about how good this film will be based on all of that still all boiled down to, "You hate Michael Bay, don't you?"

I don't want an Academy Award winning Turtle movie, but the 90's film did show you how to do a lot of things right to make a decent and very profitable Turtles movie.