WHY?! Explanations of why you defend or are repulsed by the designs

[Candy Kappa]

I've not seen seen inception, but listening to Zack on Film by Major Spoiler Podcasts, it's a very heavy loaded movie that might require several sittings to see all the details used.

[Slime State Alumni]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

I've not seen seen inception, but listening to Zack on Film by Major Spoiler Podcasts, it's a very heavy loaded movie that might require several sittings to see all the details used.

It really isn't though.

As for the designs, they look laugh-out-loud bad.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

I've not seen seen inception, but listening to Zack on Film by Major Spoiler Podcasts, it's a very heavy loaded movie that might require several sittings to see all the details used.

Movie is very overrated

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

Movie is very overrated

O_o or is it.............. Commentscepptions

Its a comment inside a comment..


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[fugitoid9000]

I love the new designs, freakin awesome. I love how the turtles have evolved and changed over the years, adopting sociological trends and norms of that particular time period. Just think of all the new fans and generations of turtle fever that will be hatched from this new format. We love our old turtles for what they are but I fully welcome any new adaptations and designs that may follow , as long as they still stay true to the heart and soul of the original ones, which they did beautifully. Everyone has the right to their own opinion and let's not bash each other over these things, we can just politely agree to disagree.

[CyberCubed]

The problem is the designs look like they're made for casuals. They resemble The Hulk, or Jim Lee's designs, in that they are muscle bound meatheads. The turtles never had massive muscles or bulk like this.

It feels like the people making this movie skimmed a Wikipedia entry and based their knowledge of the TMNT franchise on that. I wish Viacom pulled the plug when they had the chance. Contracts be damned.

[Slime State Alumni]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The problem is the designs look like they're made for casuals. They resemble The Hulk, or Jim Lee's designs, in that they are muscle bound meatheads. The turtles never had massive muscles or bulk like this.

It feels like the people making this movie skimmed a Wikipedia entry and based their knowledge of the TMNT franchise on that. I wish Viacom pulled the plug when they had the chance. Contracts be damned.

Well to be fair this isn't the first time the turtles have been represented as huge hulking dudes, and I'm not even counting the Jim Lee designs.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Slime State Alumni

Well to be fair this isn't the first time the turtles have been represented as huge hulking dudes, and I'm not even counting the Jim Lee designs.

Honestly they were pretty large in the 2k3 when compared to the slimmer redesigns. Honestly they almost look fat if you watch back to the sewers or turtles forever and then go back to watching the earlier seasons.

Doubt they were made with casuals in mind. They'd be confused as to all the weird changes.

[slingtheory]

they weren't thinking of casual fans when they made the designs they were thinking of general audiences. They want the average man on the street to see them and go "whoa those turtles look bad ass" and from the reactions I've seen its working for better or worse

[Jester]

I kinda find it funny that Cubed is saying the designs are "for casuals" than picks one of the most obscure TMNT variants as his example.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by slingtheory

they weren't thinking of casual fans when they made the designs they were thinking of general audiences. They want the average man on the street to see them and go "whoa those turtles look bad ass" and from the reactions I've seen its working for better or worse

If they wanted them to look badass they could certainly make them look badass. They just tried to do too much. Focused too much on the accessories and not enough on the turtles themselves

[blindturtle02]

Originally Posted by Jester

The only Nolan movie I can remember really thinking, "Could have been better." is Insomnia. Like the Batman flicks (though Rises is the weakest.) LOVE The Prestige, Memento is fun and Insception was OK, though I never went back to it...I ought to. Might need to IMDB Nolan to see if there are others I liked.

As for Bay, the only movies that I've seen of his that I know I don't like are the Transformers movies. Liked the Rock, liked Pain and Gain, liked The Island. Never saw Pearl Harbor...probably won't. Need to IMDB him for other I might have missed.

Never seen a Liebsman movie...wait take that back, saw Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning. Not the worst thing ever...but I don't remember much either.

Point is, I dislike the new Turtle designs because I do. Because I find them very ridiculously over done and like they are telegraphing all of their personalities in their designs. It's not misdirected Bay hate, it's legitimate iffyness about the designs.

I agree with ya dude. Iffyness is exactly the word I was looking for. From the way you and others have described it, they do seem over-exaggerated. Still going to see the movie, but the designs have me shaking my head a little. This will give me an excuse to purchase a few of the figs from the movie though. Why not? I'll get a better look.

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

If they wanted them to look badass they could certainly make them look badass. They just tried to do too much. Focused too much on the accessories and not enough on the turtles themselves

Yep and that's something I'm afraid might carry on to rest of the movie. Not enough focus on the turtles

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by fugitoid9000

I love the new designs, freakin awesome. I love how the turtles have evolved and changed over the years, adopting sociological trends and norms of that particular time period. Just think of all the new fans and generations of turtle fever that will be hatched from this new format. We love our old turtles for what they are but I fully welcome any new adaptations and designs that may follow , as long as they still stay true to the heart and soul of the original ones, which they did beautifully. Everyone has the right to their own opinion and let's not bash each other over these things, we can just politely agree to disagree.

I really shouldn't respond this this but on the off chance that you're a genuine fan who sincerely believes this...

I can't think of many examples of the turtles evolving with current trends or adopting pop culture norms of the time in the manner in which you say. The designs of the titular characters has generally remained consistent and it's worked well across multiple media for nearly thirty years.

The only time they have ever been redesigned in such an overt way and tried to channel what was seen as currently popular was Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation which happens to be one of the more derided viterarions of the TMNT.

I also fail to see how these designs are of the "current time period" I'd argue they seem horribly dated. I don't see many real people dressing like Michelangelo or any currently popular fictional protagonists dressing like Raphael or Leo. Shouldn't Don have a tablet device? Seems to me his design is based on a very old fashioned notion of what someone intelligent is supposed to look.

I really don't see how these designs are in anyway true to the "heart and soul" of the original designs that are supposed to be simple and a sense of uniformity. Stack these up against any previous TMNT design and they'd stand out like a sore thumb. The only version they seem remotely similar to is the aforementioned Next Mutation - not a good sign in my book.

Don't we have a new generation of TMNT fans based on the popularity of the Nickledeon cartoon? A show that uses designs based on the originals.

So yes I'm politely agreeing to disagree.

[Michelangelo]

I feel the tmnts need a shake up and the new look is just that. They need to shake things up because people do know the turtles and so many have an idea of what they mean to them now. This new look gets people to ask what all the fuss is about again. I know some will not care what the fuss is no matter the look. It certainly has people who are aware of the new look guessing about just exactly what we are going to get. I know some people are adamant that what we are going to get will be crap and that anyone who likes it just likes the taste of sh!t, lol. It will be amusing to look back on all these opinions after the film is out to see just what predictions came true. One way or another I hope these new look turtles capture our hearts once again bringing the joy that only tmnt can once the movie is out. If not, then there plenty to fall back on. Cowabunga!

[rickwj324]

Originally Posted by Galactus

I really shouldn't respond this this but on the off chance that you're a genuine fan who sincerely believes this...

I can't think of many examples of the turtles evolving with current trends or adopting pop culture norms of the time in the manner in which you say. The designs of the titular characters has generally remained consistent and it's worked well across multiple media for nearly thirty years.

The only time they have ever been redesigned in such an overt way and tried to channel what was seen as currently popular was Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation which happens to be one of the more derided viterarions of the TMNT.

I also fail to see how these designs are of the "current time period" I'd argue they seem horribly dated. I don't see many real people dressing like Michelangelo or any currently popular fictional protagonists dressing like Raphael or Leo. Shouldn't Don have a tablet device? Seems to me his design is based on a very old fashioned notion of what someone intelligent is supposed to look.

I really don't see how these designs are in anyway true to the "heart and soul" of the original designs that are supposed to be simple and a sense of uniformity. Stack these up against any previous TMNT design and they'd stand out like a sore thumb. The only version they seem remotely similar to is the aforementioned Next Mutation - not a good sign in my book.

Don't we have a new generation of TMNT fans based on the popularity of the Nickledeon cartoon? A show that uses designs based on the originals.

So yes I'm politely agreeing to disagree.

Well said!

[ObiWanFan4life]

Originally Posted by Galactus

I really shouldn't respond this this but on the off chance that you're a genuine fan who sincerely believes this...

I can't think of many examples of the turtles evolving with current trends or adopting pop culture norms of the time in the manner in which you say. The designs of the titular characters has generally remained consistent and it's worked well across multiple media for nearly thirty years.

The only time they have ever been redesigned in such an overt way and tried to channel what was seen as currently popular was Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation which happens to be one of the more derided viterarions of the TMNT.

I also fail to see how these designs are of the "current time period" I'd argue they seem horribly dated. I don't see many real people dressing like Michelangelo or any currently popular fictional protagonists dressing like Raphael or Leo. Shouldn't Don have a tablet device? Seems to me his design is based on a very old fashioned notion of what someone intelligent is supposed to look.

I really don't see how these designs are in anyway true to the "heart and soul" of the original designs that are supposed to be simple and a sense of uniformity. Stack these up against any previous TMNT design and they'd stand out like a sore thumb. The only version they seem remotely similar to is the aforementioned Next Mutation - not a good sign in my book.

Don't we have a new generation of TMNT fans based on the popularity of the Nickledeon cartoon? A show that uses designs based on the originals.

So yes I'm politely agreeing to disagree.

Well said. I agree.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by Galactus

I really shouldn't respond this this but on the off chance that you're a genuine fan who sincerely believes this...

I can't think of many examples of the turtles evolving with current trends or adopting pop culture norms of the time in the manner in which you say. The designs of the titular characters has generally remained consistent and it's worked well across multiple media for nearly thirty years.

The only time they have ever been redesigned in such an overt way and tried to channel what was seen as currently popular was Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation which happens to be one of the more derided viterarions of the TMNT.

I also fail to see how these designs are of the "current time period" I'd argue they seem horribly dated. I don't see many real people dressing like Michelangelo or any currently popular fictional protagonists dressing like Raphael or Leo. Shouldn't Don have a tablet device? Seems to me his design is based on a very old fashioned notion of what someone intelligent is supposed to look.

I really don't see how these designs are in anyway true to the "heart and soul" of the original designs that are supposed to be simple and a sense of uniformity. Stack these up against any previous TMNT design and they'd stand out like a sore thumb. The only version they seem remotely similar to is the aforementioned Next Mutation - not a good sign in my book.

Don't we have a new generation of TMNT fans based on the popularity of the Nickledeon cartoon? A show that uses designs based on the originals.

So yes I'm politely agreeing to disagree.

Yep. Exactly.

[turtlefanforever]

Originally Posted by Michelangelo

I feel the tmnts need a shake up and the new look is just that. They need to shake things up because people do know the turtles and so many have an idea of what they mean to them now. This new look gets people to ask what all the fuss is about again. I know some will not care what the fuss is no matter the look. It certainly has people who are aware of the new look guessing about just exactly what we are going to get. I know some people are adamant that what we are going to get will be crap and that anyone who likes it just likes the taste of sh!t, lol. It will be amusing to look back on all these opinions after the film is out to see just what predictions came true. One way or another I hope these new look turtles capture our hearts once again bringing the joy that only tmnt can once the movie is out. If not, then there plenty to fall back on. Cowabunga!

But not like this. Everyone knows who they are and what they are they don't have to wear their personalities. It's about character development. They can keep the same general design but change the general tone and that will be shaken up enough . With that logic, lets make superman black, batman Asian, the Incredible Hulk purple with yellow polka dots. Wolverine have lollipops instead of blades.

[fugitoid9000]

Originally Posted by Galactus

I really shouldn't respond this this but on the off chance that you're a genuine fan who sincerely believes this...

I can't think of many examples of the turtles evolving with current trends or adopting pop culture norms of the time in the manner in which you say. The designs of the titular characters has generally remained consistent and it's worked well across multiple media for nearly thirty years.

The only time they have ever been redesigned in such an overt way and tried to channel what was seen as currently popular was Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation which happens to be one of the more derided viterarions of the TMNT.

I also fail to see how these designs are of the "current time period" I'd argue they seem horribly dated. I don't see many real people dressing like Michelangelo or any currently popular fictional protagonists dressing like Raphael or Leo. Shouldn't Don have a tablet device? Seems to me his design is based on a very old fashioned notion of what someone intelligent is supposed to look.

I really don't see how these designs are in anyway true to the "heart and soul" of the original designs that are supposed to be simple and a sense of uniformity. Stack these up against any previous TMNT design and they'd stand out like a sore thumb. The only version they seem remotely similar to is the aforementioned Next Mutation - not a good sign in my book.

Don't we have a new generation of TMNT fans based on the popularity of the Nickledeon cartoon? A show that uses designs based on the originals.

So yes I'm politely agreeing to disagree.

I love how you question my fandom as if i'm not a genuine fan. The original cartoon had to overcome many obstacles pertaining to appropriate content and tv censorship. The turtles were toned down after the first 3 episodes because they were considered to be too violent for the viewing demographic. The turtles were nothing like the Eastman and Laird comics ergo conforming to the socialistic views of that current time frame. Compare that to the new Nickelodeon show which has loads more action and violence. You brought up many interesting points pertaining to the overall look of the turtles. Your right the overall appearance is dated and does not really conform to the present look. Well said sir i appreciate your comment.