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*Candy Kappa* · 02-08-2014, 05:35 PM

The Nick Fury comparison is completely ******** on two accounts.

1. There is no shortage of white roles, making a white character into POC is inclusive and more diverse. Also gives POC actors a. Fair shake, since most characters either in movies or comics are usually male white by default.

2. The Marvel Cinematic Universe Nick Fury is based off Ultimate Comics Nick Fury who had his looks directly taken from the actor Samuel Jackson. And if Samuel Jackson wants to play that character, no one is stupid enough to say o to Samuel Jackson. Personally I loathe the Ultimate Comics Nick Fury, but luckily he got a more 616 universe personality so I'm glad he isn't Ultimate. Nick in characterization

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Originally Posted by samxsteal

The whole idea is that Eric Saches is a play on or Americanizing the name Oroku saki, something some one might do for an alias in America if they were from Japan. Just like my name is Adam but in Japan it would be Adamu son. Simple concept many can't grasp

I'm well aware that Eric Sachs is a play on Oroku Saki, doesn't make it any less stupid and ridiculous.

Especially when the name is wrong. Eric Sachs don't fit Oroku Saki, cause Eric is a first name and Oroku is a surname. The western order of Saki's name is Saki Oroku, cause Oroku is his Surname. In other words a western play on his name, a "alias" if you will, would be a play on Saki Oroku, not Oroku Saki.

*TigerClaw* · 02-08-2014, 05:46 PM

You could argue that Eric Sachs uses Oroku Saki as an alias for a Japanese bank account.

*TrickOrTreater* · 02-08-2014, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by samxsteal

And You KNOW for a FACT this "Lowers" the quality of this movie with out even seeing it im glade to know your physic.

No. I know for a fact that it lowers the quality of Shredder as a character WHICH IS WHAT I ACTUALLY SAID.

JESUS.

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a person who is no longer popular or successful
Which you may not have said but you've implied it.
also not being worthy of the character (DISREGARDING race) is what upsets me.

No I didn't. Not even implied.

And yes, he's not worthy of the character.

*TrickOrTreater* · 02-08-2014, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I'd agree Chris, if Fichtner wasn't already contracted for the entire trilogy himself...

Exactly.

THIS is the Shredder we're getting for this movie and maybe for future sequels.

Blah.

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Originally Posted by Powder

The Shredder is a Japanese man, born & raised in Japan, who based his lifestyle on that of both the Samurai & Ninja simultaneously, adorning armor reminiscent of the Edo period, being a part of a clan, honoring death before dishonor, etc.

Totally not built around his race, though.

Just give up already. You aren't going to convince anyone to align themselves with your way of thinking. This is obvious, is it not?

It's really, truly, this simple.

~~Leo656~~ · 02-09-2014, 09:02 PM

If this movie does turn out to be sh*t, seeing all the apologists do verbal somersaults is going to be the most entertaining thing about the entire project. "I only said it COULD be good!!!"

Nah, c'mon, guy, Deductive Reasoning is a thing. All evidence points to some pretty stupid sh*t hitting the screen. We're not Bad People for going by what we've been given, all of which looks like a metric ass-load of sh*t with a TMNT ribbon on it.

Apparently, those four letters, to some fans, can justify anything, just to keep the brand alive. Not true, says I. But yeah, the "Constantly Negative" crowd aren't working half as hard to "convince" people as the "Let's Try And Be Positive" crowd. And that's kind of annoying. Because in this case the Optimists are the ones doing all the persecuting, and that's not how this kind of thing is supposed to work. Stop playing against type, people.

And for what it's worth, my only problem with a lot of the New People we've gotten lately is that they often try and plead their case by means of atrocious spelling and grammar. Not all of the new members, obviously, but man, it doesn't help them make whatever point they're attempting to make. Call it "Elitist", but when you're trying to make an impression while trying to promote a POV some or many don't agree with, you shouldn't give them any ammo whatsoever. Jeeeeest sayin'.

*TrickOrTreater* · 02-09-2014, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

If this movie does turn out to be sh*t, seeing all the apologists do verbal somersaults is going to be the most entertaining thing about the entire project. "I only said it COULD be good!!!"

I wish I was petty/not lazy enough to save posts. But nah.

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Nah, c'mon, guy, Deductive Reasoning is a thing. All evidence points to some pretty stupid sh*t hitting the screen. We're not Bad People for going by what we've been given, all of which looks like a metric ass-load of sh*t with a TMNT ribbon on it.

Apparently, those four letters, to some fans, can justify anything, just to keep the brand alive. Not true, says I. But yeah, the "Constantly Negative" crowd aren't working half as hard to "convince" people as the "Let's Try And Be Positive" crowd. And that's kind of annoying. Because in this case the Optimists are the ones doing all the persecuting, and that's not how this kind of thing is supposed to work. Stop playing against type, people.

And for what it's worth, my only problem with a lot of the New People we've gotten lately is that they often try and plead their case by means of atrocious spelling and grammar. Not all of the new members, obviously, but man, it doesn't help them make whatever point they're attempting to make. Call it "Elitist", but when you're trying to make an impression while trying to promote a POV some or many don't agree with, you shouldn't give them any ammo whatsoever. Jeeeeest sayin'.

Seriously. I guarantee you go back to before Fichtner was cast, and bring up his name in regards to him playing Shredder and you'd get flamed right off the boards.

But now that it's officially happening, we're somehow in "let's wait and see/I think he's gonna nail it!" territory.

I think it's stockholm syndrome.

Shred87 · 02-09-2014, 09:24 PM

I agree that we don't have anything that excites me so far but We havnt seen anything yet! Too many times have preconceived notions been made based on castings photos and trailers and the movie was the complete opposite... Heath ledger as joker... Tumbler... Met with huge negativity and were awesome... Spider-Man 3 had huge hype with it... The venom trailer got a ton of people excited for a huge letdown

I'm sorry, I'm not some eternal optimist but some stills from the set, photos of action figures and a poster that looked way too cgi to actually look that way on the screen is not enough for me to want to storm the studios... We don't know what anything will look like especially since many thing we saw will likely be cgi enhanced... Once we get a trailer we will have a better idea of how things look and the tone of the movie... It's your right to voice you displeasure of whaT we've seen but to attack people who are holding back their opinion or still have hope for the movie is just kind of silly at this point.

Warboss74 · 02-09-2014, 10:09 PM

Maybe the "Let's be Positive" crowd forgot how the Shredder was written in the leaked script. We now know that they've reworked the script, but there are still elements present in what we know about the movie. (Snowy mountain chase scene, militaristic foot, and a Shredder who isn't Oroku Saki, etc.)

Technogeek29 · 02-09-2014, 10:23 PM

You know the real disappointing thing, I haven't seen no one post? This is made with a sequel in mind and if it doesn't break even at least. The movie will be riddled with Plot Holes and open ended story telling.

TurtleMikey · 02-09-2014, 10:51 PM

While I cannot defend their casting of Fitchner as Eric Sach's (and you truly can't because Shredder is and should be Japanese), I don't think we should be dwelling on the fact that a Caucasian man will be playing the character, and that the character (presumably depending upon his backstory) will be Caucasian.

There's no point in continuing to bitch about the fact that they are doing this because its already done. There's nothing we can do to change it. You don't have to like it, but you have to accept it and then do the logical thing. Which is just stop caring, get with your life and don't see this film.

Or, instead, we could be focusing on figuring out, speculating, and stating our opinions on how this can work, at least in its own way. And at least, still be respectful to the core of the character, and the elements BEYOND his race.

It's not and can never be perfect due to the race change, but that doesn't mean it can't be good.

At the very least, this could be a very different, yet very good, element in a new take on TMNT. And there are TONS of takes on TMNT.

*Candy Kappa* · 02-10-2014, 01:30 AM

Fichtner would have been perfect as a mob guy or a dirty cop/FBI agent working for Shredder. He could have been a less cartoony proportionate Hun.

*TrickOrTreater* · 02-10-2014, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Fichtner would have been perfect as a mob guy or a dirty cop/FBI agent working for Shredder. He could have been a less cartoony proportionate Hun.

Exactly. Perfect for that role.

02-08-2014, 05:46 PM	#122
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02-09-2014, 10:23 PM	#129
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02-10-2014, 01:30 AM	#131
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02-09-2014, 09:02 PM	#125
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	If this movie does turn out to be sht, seeing all the apologists do verbal somersaults is going to be the most entertaining thing about the entire project. "I only said it COULD be good!!!" Nah, c'mon, guy, Deductive Reasoning is a thing. All evidence points to some pretty stupid sht hitting the screen. We're not Bad People for going by what we've been given, all of which looks like a metric ass-load of sh*t with a TMNT ribbon on it. Apparently, those four letters, to some fans, can justify anything, just to keep the brand alive. Not true, says I. But yeah, the "Constantly Negative" crowd aren't working half as hard to "convince" people as the "Let's Try And Be Positive" crowd. And that's kind of annoying. Because in this case the Optimists are the ones doing all the persecuting, and that's not how this kind of thing is supposed to work. Stop playing against type, people. And for what it's worth, my only problem with a lot of the New People we've gotten lately is that they often try and plead their case by means of atrocious spelling and grammar. Not all of the new members, obviously, but man, it doesn't help them make whatever point they're attempting to make. Call it "Elitist", but when you're trying to make an impression while trying to promote a POV some or many don't agree with, you shouldn't give them any ammo whatsoever. Jeeeeest sayin'.

02-09-2014, 09:24 PM	#127
Shred87 Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 467	I agree that we don't have anything that excites me so far but We havnt seen anything yet! Too many times have preconceived notions been made based on castings photos and trailers and the movie was the complete opposite... Heath ledger as joker... Tumbler... Met with huge negativity and were awesome... Spider-Man 3 had huge hype with it... The venom trailer got a ton of people excited for a huge letdown I'm sorry, I'm not some eternal optimist but some stills from the set, photos of action figures and a poster that looked way too cgi to actually look that way on the screen is not enough for me to want to storm the studios... We don't know what anything will look like especially since many thing we saw will likely be cgi enhanced... Once we get a trailer we will have a better idea of how things look and the tone of the movie... It's your right to voice you displeasure of whaT we've seen but to attack people who are holding back their opinion or still have hope for the movie is just kind of silly at this point.

02-09-2014, 10:09 PM	#128
Warboss74 Foot Soldier Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 230	Maybe the "Let's be Positive" crowd forgot how the Shredder was written in the leaked script. We now know that they've reworked the script, but there are still elements present in what we know about the movie. (Snowy mountain chase scene, militaristic foot, and a Shredder who isn't Oroku Saki, etc.)

02-09-2014, 10:51 PM	#130
TurtleMikey Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 347	While I cannot defend their casting of Fitchner as Eric Sach's (and you truly can't because Shredder is and should be Japanese), I don't think we should be dwelling on the fact that a Caucasian man will be playing the character, and that the character (presumably depending upon his backstory) will be Caucasian. There's no point in continuing to bitch about the fact that they are doing this because its already done. There's nothing we can do to change it. You don't have to like it, but you have to accept it and then do the logical thing. Which is just stop caring, get with your life and don't see this film. Or, instead, we could be focusing on figuring out, speculating, and stating our opinions on how this can work, at least in its own way. And at least, still be respectful to the core of the character, and the elements BEYOND his race. It's not and can never be perfect due to the race change, but that doesn't mean it can't be good. At the very least, this could be a very different, yet very good, element in a new take on TMNT. And there are TONS of takes on TMNT.