The NEW Official Trailer Discussion

[fridaynightdestination]

Yeah I don't thinks its coming today unless they drop it completely out of the blue. It could be tomorrow though.

[UGHShellshocked]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

really guys..this is why i feel like i cant post here anymore

and ive noticed im not the only one, its like if you arnt Die Hard happy about this movie you arnt allowed to talk

this is passive aggressive baiting to us who are not happy with the film, i cant even express how i feel cause i am walking on egg shells around the "Positive" crowd of the film

ive reported you both, im sorry it sounds childish, but its unfair the you guys keep bringing up things like this and the rest of us cant say a thing about how we feel

Being apart of the positive crowd I felt the same way for the longest time but I say this

Lets stop all this fussin and a feudin we are all clearly Turtles fans here. I respect everyone's opinions and views and I hate the fact that its become like the Hatfields and McCoys. I like discussing the movie and even if your opinions differ from mine it gives us something to talk about. Nobody is wrong when it comes to their views.

When it comes to this movie I'm just afraid that it won't do good and that will make it impossible for any future remakes to be made.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

Here is the thing though,

no one is forcing you guys to watch those trailers or read the articles, i learned that back for Dark of the Moon the trailers spoil movies


for Muppets Most Wanted and Winter Soldier, i only watched 2 trailers each..and you know what i loved it..i went into both movies with little to no knowledge and was pleaseantly surprised by both

I am doing the same with Godzilla,GOTG and Xmen

so really you cant blame studios for pumping out what people want, the self control not to watch comes from you

Thats fine and dandy for you, but why risk it it one of the worst things a movie can do is give away the whole plot before its released.

For what a few thousand people so cant be patient? really?

Seriously whats next "preview the whole movie a month before the movie enters theaters"

Whats the point.

And by that logic if someone doesn't like something they should ignore it. right?

Originally Posted by fridaynightdestination

Yeah I don't thinks its coming today unless they drop it completely out of the blue. It could be tomorrow though.

This is likely how it will be released

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

Thats fine and dandy for you, but why risk it it one of the worst things a movie can do is give away the whole plot before its released.

For what a few thousand people so cant be patient? really?

Seriously whats next "preview the whole movie a month before the movie enters theaters"

Whats the point.

huh? i honestly have no idea what you are trying to say..


what does skipping a few trailers have to do with previewing the whole movie?

And by that logic if someone doesn't like something they should ignore it. right?

thats not what i said sam, i said that if you dont want to go to a movie and feel like you have already seen it, dont watch all the trailers,promos, scenes etc

you know like I did with Muppets and Cap because i felt trailers where giving to much like what happened to me and Dark of the Moon



no need for the aggressiveness

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by UGHShellshocked

Being apart of the positive crowd I felt the same way for the longest time but I say this

Lets stop all this fussin and a feudin we are all clearly Turtles fans here. I respect everyone's opinions and views and I hate the fact that its become like the Hatfields and McCoys. I like discussing the movie and even if your opinions differ from mine it gives us something to talk about. Nobody is wrong when it comes to their views.

When it comes to this movie I'm just afraid that it won't do good and that will make it impossible for any future remakes to be made.

For months people had felt that way Some still feel that way and still refuse to Actually participate in this section.

Noel *cough* *cough*


ONly reason why it wont do well at this point is because many people are so close minded they wont even give something the benefit of the doubt.

[sethmartin]

So because I think a certain car looks terrible, then I should go build my own car??? I haven't heard one person on here say that they can make a better movie than this. No one has argued that making this movie didn't take a lot of hard work or skill. It's just an issue of taste. Should people just pretend they like this because it was something that they couldn't personally accomplish?? That's no different than saying that someone who thinks this movie looks great is now an expert on cinema. It's all BS. Like every single film ever made, there are going to be people who think it's great and some who think it's terrible. Has nothing to do with whether or not they could do better.

[UGHShellshocked]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

Here is the thing though,

no one is forcing you guys to watch those trailers or read the articles, i learned that back for Dark of the Moon the trailers spoil movies


for Muppets Most Wanted and Winter Soldier, i only watched 2 trailers each..and you know what i loved it..i went into both movies with little to no knowledge and was pleaseantly surprised by both

I am doing the same with Godzilla,GOTG and Xmen

so really you cant blame studios for pumping out what people want, the self control not to watch comes from you

Yeah some of the early reviews have stated the trailers and tv spots have shown too much but with the TMNT trailer they are being quite secretive.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

huh? i honestly have no idea what you are trying to say..


what does skipping a few trailers have to do with previewing the whole movie?

IM say Why should movie companies keep releasing promotional material when seriously the next step in all this is to just release the movie to the public prior to its Official Release so fans can get a look at the movie before paying to get a look at the movie.

Most movies now and day do pretty much that Watch the first 5, the first 10, the first hour, ETC ETC, of the movie before its released.

When just 5-10 years ago one of the worst Offenses a movie production could to was show Too much, To many scene from the movie, too much plot points, Some even show the ending of the whole movie in the marketing, that messed up why do that. why not just make a movie and release it for free?

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

thats not what i said sam, i said that if you dont want to go to a movie and feel like you have already seen it, dont watch all the trailers,promos, scenes etc

you know like I did with Muppets and Cap because i felt trailers where giving to much like what happened to me and Dark of the Moon



no need for the aggressiveness

You dont want to see the promotions for a movie dont watch them that what you said by that logic, You dont want to see a movie, Dont see that movie. Right?


Im not being aggressive, just trying to make sense of logic. some people have.

I mean sure if i didn't want to see anything i could become a hermit and stay off the internet and ignore every site to keep me from getting spoiled but why should i have to do that when a movie company could just be smarter and shorten a marketing campaign and the amount in which they show, You know like they used to.

Picture and trailers are fine but when you get into 10 min trailers and BTS photos the give away whole plot points, thing should be rethought and fix the issue.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by UGHShellshocked

Yeah some of the early reviews have stated the trailers and tv spots have shown too much but with the TMNT trailer they are being quite secretive.

which i think is awesome Keep it a secret dont spoil the movie. Remember when seeing a movie was about faith faith a production would know what they are doing i mean really back in the day you just had to have faith you were going to a quality movie some time you were right some times you were wrong, it was just part of it.

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

really guys..this is why i feel like i cant post here anymore

and ive noticed im not the only one, its like if you arnt Die Hard happy about this movie you arnt allowed to talk

this is passive aggressive baiting to us who are not happy with the film, i cant even express how i feel cause i am walking on egg shells around the "Positive" crowd of the film

ive reported you both, im sorry it sounds childish, but its unfair the you guys keep bringing up things like this and the rest of us cant say a thing about how we feel

its fine you reported me, im not upset...its your right as a member - but please know that the way I feel isnt specific to the fans on these boards...its fandom in general - it bothers that fans criticize everything to death, but have nothing to contribute - the reason i brought up FIGHT THE FOOT is simply because, if the creator thinks the new 2014 film sucks, then not only can he criticize, but then he make the changes, and shape the aesthetic, and storyline as he thinks it should be in HIS film. and by comparison he can turn back and say, "see? the PD productions sucks, come watch MY movie...because this is how it should be"

maybe it just me...im not 100% on board with everything Platinum Dunes is doing with this iteration. I know I am super vocal with my support, but in the back of my head, I wish there are things they did differently. so much so, I am writing a script for a short film, and am working with artists I met in college to design the turtles. will it go anywhere? maybe not. but I feel like i CANNOT just sit back and criticize something, if I am not doing anything about it.

to me its like sitting in the dining room table, and complaining about the food that someone else made, when I can take myself into the kitchen and make myself something I want.

and not be mean Boston - i realize we dont agree much on these boards (but just so you know, I've seen your site, and dig what you do), but the way you are feeling now is the way the stoked crowd has for a while. we never felt comfortable expressing our excitement simply because we (especially SAM, would get slammed, hard.) but for the little i know about Sam, I know that neither or us want to ruin the experience for others on the boards - so with that, i'll stop alluding to the feud, and just be.

my apologies, and see you on the boards.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

You dont want to see the promotions for a movie dont watch them that what you said by that logic, You dont want to see a movie, Dont see that movie. Right?

no thats not what i said.. i said

Trailers spoil movies

if you dont want the movie spoiled, avoid some trailers not all

said nothing about promotion,


Notice i said that i watched 2 trailers from Muppets and Cap not none, i saw enough that i came to a point that felt more would spoil things for me so i stopped..i avoided articles, trailers, clips...was it easy no, especially since the Muppets are my first love..i wanted to see everything..but i didn't and was very happy with the results

i still went to go see the movies, paid for both (Muppets 3 times)..so i am not getting where this aggressive logic is that i am telling people to not go see it


i am telling people that MAYBE just MAYBE after this trailer depending what is in it,if they don't want to be spoiled, they should not see the others till the movie comes out because recently trailers spoil movies



you turned it into this whole i am telling folks not to see it

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by sethmartin

So because I think a certain car looks terrible, then I should go build my own car??? I haven't heard one person on here say that they can make a better movie than this. No one has argued that making this movie didn't take a lot of hard work or skill. It's just an issue of taste. Should people just pretend they like this because it was something that they couldn't personally accomplish?? That's no different than saying that someone who thinks this movie looks great is now an expert on cinema. It's all BS. Like every single film ever made, there are going to be people who think it's great and some who think it's terrible. Has nothing to do with whether or not they could do better.

seth, i agree with you that on something like a car that mine and Sam's expectation would be simply ridiculous. but for parts of movie things like storyline, creature designs, etc. people have the outlets to realize their own vision in a variety of ways.

honest question - you and I have agreed plenty of times on these boards, so this isnt me trying to bait you into an argument, as both you and Boston, seem like good folk...but considering what you do for a living - havent you ever been criticized for something you've done, and in the back of your head, you're thinking..."okay, you don't like my work, show me you can do it better?" maybe im being ridiculous, but i just dont think people should criticize so hard, when they wont do anything themselves.

i feel the way that i do, because outside the comments on these boards...i read the comments on Facebook, and Twitter, etc. and am kinda disgusted with how entitled the general fandom is. ultimately i apologize if ive offended others with how passionate I can be. know that this is genuine, and the attitude towards the 'leery' crowd will fade.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by sethmartin

So because I think a certain car looks terrible, then I should go build my own car??? I haven't heard one person on here say that they can make a better movie than this. No one has argued that making this movie didn't take a lot of hard work or skill. It's just an issue of taste. Should people just pretend they like this because it was something that they couldn't personally accomplish?? That's no different than saying that someone who thinks this movie looks great is now an expert on cinema. It's all BS. Like every single film ever made, there are going to be people who think it's great and some who think it's terrible. Has nothing to do with whether or not they could do better.

I wasn't meaning this as all not in a negative way at least. i was just saying seeing people being critical of not only this movie but other short films made me think "hey there are talented people on these boards." and maybe with so much and talent maybe they( and not me seeing as about the only talent i have it maybe Some martial arts Or maybe cooking for the production ^_^) Could put together something that they and other fan would be happy with. Not that Because they Done like this movie to make a better one necessarily.

BoldI have seen several on occasion say that the people working on this movie were lazing and didn't put any work into this movie but I get what your saying.

I personally dont think anyone should pretend they like something when they don't but i for one if i dont like something I move on and focus on things a do like I dont sit on and say how much i dislike something. I mean if something looks bad i might be like "MEh i dont like the look of that" But really unless im asked often i movie on and ignore the thing im not happy with.

ANd i have never s

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

"okay, you don't like my work, show me you can do it better?"

i cant answer for seth, but i love criticism, whether its my puppet work,Turtle Events, artwork, etc...if i am doing something and someone feels i could improve it i want to hear it..
sure you can show me but then thats just upstaging me and to me feels like you appreciate my work less, will i learn from it..

chances are no. id rather you tell me and lead me in ways so i can learn

my ex would do that, she would say i did something wrong do it herself then shove it in my faces


now don't get me wrong, would i love to do a TMNT fan film..you bet, but not to "show these guys how its done"..but because i love TMNT and its a dream of mine

i like you graphic, which is why i was shocked to see you say that..you are one of the more civil members on here


now can this movie be great sure..but personally i havent been lead to believe that...will i be there opening night in turtle suit..i would LOVE that if i can work it out but only time will tel

[sethmartin]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

seth, i agree with you that on something like a car that mine and Sam's expectation would be simply ridiculous. but for parts of movie things like storyline, creature designs, etc. people have the outlets to realize their own vision in a variety of ways.

honest question - you and I have agreed plenty of times on these boards, so this isnt me trying to bait you into an argument, as both you and Boston, seem like good folk...but considering what you do for a living - havent you ever been criticized for something you've done, and in the back of your head, you're thinking..."okay, you don't like my work, show me you can do it better?" maybe im being ridiculous, but i just dont think people should criticize so hard, when they wont do anything themselves.

Sure but that's a different thing though. I'm not a public figure. I would disagree with someone on here walking up to Liebesman or Bay and telling them that they suck or that this movie looks terrible. To tell an artist to their face that their work sucks is just a d*ck move and yes I would agree that if you are that kind of person, then you should back up what you say. But the people on here are just responding to footage that they've seen so far in a forum with others having a discussion. If Bay and company choose to come on here and read those comments, they do so at their own risk.

[The Fifth Turtle]

Originally Posted by sethmartin

I want a traditionally animated movie based on the first series of comic books. Just as violent, just as dark and gritty. Red bandanas and all. That would be awesome.

As insanely awesome as this would be I think this has a zero percent chance of happening. Fan film?....possible. Mainstream movie? I can't see it happening.

[sethmartin]

Originally Posted by The Fifth Turtle

As insanely awesome as this would be I think this has a zero percent chance of happening. Fan film?....possible. Mainstream movie? I can't see it happening.

You're right. It would never be a mainstream movie but DC and Marvel have been producing animated films recently and releasing them straight to video. I could see the Turtles doing something similar if there's enough of a demand for it.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by sethmartin

You're right. It would never be a mainstream movie but DC and Marvel have been producing animated films recently and releasing them straight to video. I could see the Turtles doing something similar if there's enough of a demand for it.

i would love that...some of the best stories come from those animated movies


i would even love one of those "movies" thats made up of shorts

like matrix,batman and halo have

i think its like 10 shorts all different artists but they somewhat tell the same story

[The Fifth Turtle]

Originally Posted by sethmartin

You're right. It would never be a mainstream movie but DC and Marvel have been producing animated films recently and releasing them straight to video. I could see the Turtles doing something similar if there's enough of a demand for it.

Oh man would that be siiiiiick.

[sethmartin]

Right now I'm avoiding ALL Godzilla promotion. I saw the first three trailers and loved them. The third trailer, however, was starting to show too much. Shots of the new monsters, better shots of Godzilla, etc. So I'm not watching anything else until the movie. It's still early for the turtles. By July, you will be able to throw a rock and hit something turtles movie related. So far, I don't think we've seen much at all.