The NEW Official Trailer Discussion

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by MajorViolence

Donnie's blade doesn't bother me so much because it's just a cartoon, but yeah, Mikey's weapon just completely transforms, and that really bothers me even in cartoon form.

I actually didn't know any of that. Makes sense. I've never trained in using a Bo staff when I took martial arts as a kid, so it's the one weapon of the four turtles that I know practically nothing about.

I love thay he has them I think the kusarigama is a perfect mikey weapon but how it just appears/transformers is funny i dont really think anything of it now cuz its for kids mostly and kid don't question that kind of stuff.

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

The pop-up Naginata do look weird as the Bo looks so homemade-ish, yet a shard blade just pops out without any trace of a slit or anything.

Mikey's Kusarigama feels more established though, the Nunchaku looks more professional in looks and there is an transformation sequence from nunchaku to Kusarigama, although where the extra chain comes from and what happened to the other handle... Cartoon magic! I guess. Mikey should have just been established having a extra Kusarigama as well as his Nunchaku.

Gotta love Cartoon/ movie magic lol

I agree I love the fact that they gave him one but it should just be extra

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

and this is movie about mutant ninja turtles, based on a comic book.

plus Hawkeye, had a collapsible bow in the Avengers movie - which, in real life would ruin its ability to maintain its integrity against high poundage pulls, but there it is. (im an archer, and spend plenty of time at the range, we often fantasize about a bow like that, but it doesnt exist...yet)

not trying to sound like jerk, so i apologize if it comes across as such. but we are already suspending much of our disbelief buying into alien ooze that mutates baby turtles. a retractable bow, that is sturdy enough to go into combat with doesnt seem like too much of a stretch for the one who 'does machines'.

I agree
Though a collapsible bow that works can happen kinda


But i do agree with everything you said

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

and this is movie about mutant ninja turtles, based on a comic book.

plus Hawkeye, had a collapsible bow in the Avengers movie - which, in real life would ruin its ability to maintain its integrity against high poundage pulls, but there it is. (im an archer, and spend plenty of time at the range, we often fantasize about a bow like that, but it doesnt exist...yet)

not trying to sound like jerk, so i apologize if it comes across as such. but we are already suspending much of our disbelief buying into alien ooze that mutates baby turtles. a retractable bow, that is sturdy enough to go into combat with doesnt seem like too much of a stretch for the one who 'does machines'.

But, Hawkeye's bow is developed by SHIELD, Donnie don't have that kind of funds. There's a fine line of suspending of disbelief.

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

But, Hawkeye's bow is developed by SHIELD, Donnie don't have that kind of funds. There's a fine line of suspending of disbelief.

You take two pieces of steel pipe, you cut the thiner one and slide the two pieces into wider pipe you build an umbrealla like mechanism to hold the pipe from sliding out and you have a rectractible staff...

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

didnt next mutation donnie have a retractable staff?

[MastahShredder]

Look to your far left. That looks like one of the Foot carrying a black bo staff. It also looks detractable. Also a tranquilizer gun. Notice the silver canister on the top of the gun. Could it perhaps be filled with something else?



http://i.imgur.com/rzBx2Hc.jpg

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

But, Hawkeye's bow is developed by SHIELD, Donnie don't have that kind of funds. There's a fine line of suspending of disbelief.

im sorry dude, looks like we will have to agree to disagree.

in truth, i never really liked Donnie being portrayed as this amazing technician, he was smart, and a good mechanic in the first one, but he didn't understand alien technology, and modern microchip processors - if he did, Steve Barron sure never alluded to it. I can dig the fact that he's handy, and curious about emerging tech, but how he learned everything he did, is still a strange mystery to me.

[GeneralTragg]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

im sorry dude, looks like we will have to agree to disagree.

in truth, i never really liked Donnie being portrayed as this amazing technician, he was smart, and a good mechanic in the first one, but he didn't understand alien technology, and modern microchip processors - if he did, Steve Barron sure never alluded to it. I can dig the fact that he's handy, and curious about emerging tech, but how he learned everything he did, is still a strange mystery to me.

This, and in fact with any "smart" character who can just fix it with science...

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

i actually had this discussion recently with someone, but mine was more i never really saw Donnie as a nerd like he is being portrayed just more intelligent than the others

[Kendamu]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

My problem with it it the nick show is Where does it come from? like it just Apears out of the wood grain like there no button there no compartment its like it just comes from now where i know its a cartoon and really mikeys Kusarigama just appears from now where as well so meh

It's not exactly something that they thought out. One guy on the crew was like, "Nunchaku aren't a Ninja weapon. You need to give him a Kusarigama or saomething." So, they did. Sort of.

[Mr Derp]

It seems like Donnie has gone from being a "techy", to being a super nerd rivaling Sheldon Cooper.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Kendamu

It's not exactly something that they thought out. One guy on the crew was like, "Nunchaku aren't a Ninja weapon. You need to give him a Kusarigama or saomething." So, they did. Sort of.

Which im glade they did i like the weapon. Love Nunchaku as well but something about Kusarigama fit mikey very well

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by Mr Derp

It seems like Donnie has gone from being a "techy", to being a super nerd rivaling Sheldon Cooper.

Becose god forbid that nerds can be normal people, no. They have to look and act like clowns, that's insulting...

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by MastahShredder

Look to your far left. That looks like one of the Foot carrying a black bo staff. It also looks detractable. Also a tranquilizer gun. Notice the silver canister on the top of the gun. Could it perhaps be filled with something else?

http://i.imgur.com/rzBx2Hc.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/rzBx2Hc.jpg

Thats the rope pole they use to ensnare the turtles, not a Bo. You can see the noose on the rod on the guy in the background.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Thats the rope pole they use to ensnare the turtles, not a Bo. You can see the noose on the rod on the guy in the background.

i think he is talking about the left portion of the frame not the silver and red noose pole the black "bo" on the opposite side

Personally it looks more like a baton then a bo

[MastahShredder]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

i think he is talking about the left portion of the frame not the silver and red noose pole the black "bo" on the opposite side

Personally it looks more like a baton then a bo

It's a pretty damn long baton then. I'm not talking about the trapping device with the silver shaft. The black long shaft being held to the left.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by MastahShredder

It's a pretty damn long baton then. I'm not talking about the trapping device with the silver shaft. The black long shaft being held to the left.

http://i.imgur.com/6m9Sr81.gif

IDK could be right but escrima Stick are about that long

[GrapeSoda]

Originally Posted by Puddinpop

I apologize.. to all involved. I guess I got a little cranky so.. I'm sorry. I was wrong to snap the way I did.


Yea I wouldn't mind that, I love how the design is more like the comic book. There seems to be something off about it though that I cant put my finger on.. maybe Raphs voice? You know what I mean?

No harm, no foul. I wasn't upset or offended. My "circle jerk" comment was out of line, I was drunk and thought insulting 30 years of a working design in defense of the new film was absurd. Your reaction was a lot more jerkish than my post, though. Apology accepted, and I hope you realize that just because we disagree on most things involving this particular version, it doesn't mean we're enemies. We just have different view points and opinions.

As far as retractable bo staves, no. That is an absurd idea. It is counter to what a Bo staff's functionality is.....like Kappa said.

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by GrapeSoda

No harm, no foul. I wasn't upset or offended. My "circle jerk" comment was out of line, I was drunk and thought insulting 30 years of a working design in defense of the new film was absurd. Your reaction was a lot more jerkish than my post, though. Apology accepted, and I hope you realize that just because we disagree on most things involving this particular version, it doesn't mean we're enemies. We just have different view points and opinions.

As far as retractable bo staves, no. That is an absurd idea. It is counter to what a Bo staff's functionality is.....like Kappa said.

but how do explain retractable batons (that are quite long themselves) that the police use? connect two of those things in the middle, there's your staff.

i just dont understand how Robin/Nightwing using 'em is okay, but Donnie is a no no. KAPPA's argument was that Robin and Nightwing are in comics, and this is a movie, but its all fiction, just a different medium.

[GrapeSoda]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

but how do explain retractable batons (that are quite long themselves) that the police use? connect two of those things in the middle, there's your staff.

i just dont understand how Robin/Nightwing using 'em is okay, but Donnie is a no no. KAPPA's argument was that Robin and Nightwing are in comics, and this is a movie, but its all fiction, just a different medium.

because bo staves are made of hard wood, are lightweight arena somewhat flexible to facilitate a particular fighting style. A rigid metal retractable and therefore structurally weaker staff.....would not work for a fighting style that uses a bo staff.

Yes, that is a nitpick, but it hasn't been established at any point that Donnie would alterhis trained fighting techniques to uses sub-standard weapon. I'm just going off the point that this is supposed to be a "realistic" portrayal of the TMNT.