The NEW Official Trailer Discussion

[MajorViolence]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

You know why not just mutate thing with human DNA like many version and just Alow them proper use and lips HUH wow well then guess that works two lol

You'd have a good point if we were somehow trying to prove that human lips were useless for talking.

[Fjaj]

If you would like to discuss this further, I suggest you start a "lips" thread.

In the meantime, let's actually discuss the trailer. How about that fan scene? The moving camera makes it seem like it's in a vehicle, probably during the snow scene, but what kind of vehicle would have a fan like that in it?

[MajorViolence]

Originally Posted by Fjaj

If you would like to discuss this further, I suggest you start a "lips" thread.

[NoName999]

This is why they should start using CGI and not guys in costumes

[MajorViolence]

Originally Posted by NoName999

This is why they should start using CGI and not guys in costumes

I seriously think that was a huge mistake on their part. I mean, I can understand why they would animate their faces with CG, but there's really no need to make their entire bodies animated. It's going to take away a lot of the realism and add a lot of incentive to keep them off-camera as much as possible. Such a terrible decision.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

Originally Posted by NoName999

This is why they should start using CGI and not guys in costumes

What are you talking about? The Turtles are CGI in the new film.

[MajorViolence]

Originally Posted by Ramboraph4life aka Matt

What are you talking about? The Turtles are CGI in the new film.

Yeah I'm just realizing I read that post completely wrong and now I'm utterly confused by it.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by NoName999

This is why they should start using CGI and not guys in costumes

Forget CGI, just go with traditional movie effects of make-up!

Spoiler:

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by GrapeSoda

I don't hate her, I just think she is a horrible actress. She is wooden and unconvincing.

funny enough she admitted herself - she told Ellen that she told the producers during audition..."you can cast a more believable journalist, but you wont cast a bigger fan."

right there, she admitted 1) there are better actresses than her, and 2) she alluded to holes in her own performance

i still dont mind her, and want her to do well, but i cant imagine her wowing me with something i haven't seen from her repertoire before.

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

Forget CGI, just go with traditional movie effects of make-up!

Spoiler:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8230/8...ffeecfbc_z.jpg

i personally would have preferred to see a hybrid of animatronics, and cg - i read somewhere that was the original plan in light of the success of 'Where the Wild Things Are' who employed the same technique.

[GrapeSoda]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

Forget CGI, just go with traditional movie effects of make-up!

Spoiler:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8230/8...ffeecfbc_z.jpg

there is so much hotness in that image.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

i personally would have preferred to see a hybrid of animatronics, and cg - i read somewhere that was the original plan in light of the success of 'Where the Wild Things Are' who employed the same technique.

I believe that was the indication Laird was giving of what he would like to do, citing Gollum on the CG side of things, after the 2007 TMNT. He had speculated on having Gellar and Evans reprise their voice roles in live action as well.

[GrapeSoda]

Originally Posted by graphic_content

and i get that bro, i do. but realistic or not, we are still talkin' about giant, mutated turtles that know ninjitsu.

one could argue that the Avengers was done realistically (as much as the subject matter allowed), but look at all the fantastical elements to it.

a retractable bo on the otherhand, feasible in this world, imo.

the burden of proof is on the movie, at this point. if they are truly going for this "REALISTIC" approach with these turtles, there aren't any corners to cut. Bay and his crew are the ones establishing this universe. The major defense for the AWFUL designs of the turtles is because of "realism" and making realistic "mutant turtles". So, it pretty silly to pick and choose what can be "realistic" and what can be "comic book".....

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

I believe that was the indication Laird was giving of what he would like to do, citing Gollum on the CG side of things, after the 2007 TMNT. He had speculated on having Gellar and Evans reprise their voice roles in live action as well.

oh thats right...funny enough, i think Evans would have been a great Casey...believable in his ability to kick a**, but funny just the same.

Originally Posted by GrapeSoda

the burden of proof is on the movie, at this point. if they are truly going for this "REALISTIC" approach with these turtles, there aren't any corners to cut. Bay and his crew are the ones establishing this universe. The major defense for the AWFUL designs of the turtles is because of "realism" and making realistic "mutant turtles". So, it pretty silly to pick and choose what can be "realistic" and what can be "comic book".....

dude we clearly arent seeing eye to eye here...which is fine, to each his own. but please keep in mind two things, 1) being realistic is NEVER something someone from production said...we said it as fans, and 2) everyone in this conversation seems to be glossing over the fact that I am citing movies, that have also taken a realistic approach with the source material, but STILL had fantastical elements that wouldn't be practical in the real world...

1) Nolan's Batman - turning everyone's phone in Gotham into a sonar projection for the title character
2) Whedon's Avengers - Hawkeye's bow, and pretty much everything else amazing
3) Webb's Amazing Spiderman - how in the crap does Peter Parker (yes, above average IQ, I get it) get his normal teenager hands on the tech necessary to create his shooters
4) ...should i keep going?

all im saying, and all i was ever arguing about was the retractable bo - thats is possible is the crazy universe where turtles can become ninjas, that its possible, the gear-head of the group comes up with a way to carry his weapon in such a way that is practical, but extends to something effective.

anyways. im done, and im sure you are too. if i sounded like a jerk, my apologies.

[Candy Kappa]

Still, a telescopic Bo are as silly as if Leo was using a pair of Gunblades from Final Fantasy 8. Y'know, it's all fantastical anyway.

The straight bladed ninja katana is less silly then a telescopic Bo, at least a straight bladed katana is still usable for combat.

[Raptor86]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

The straight bladed ninja katana

Aren't they called "ninjato"?

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by Raptor86

Aren't they called "ninjato"?

No, well yes. But a Ninjato is an actual thing, and isn't one type of weapon. There is several types of Ninjato. So the straight bladed "Ninjato" isn't a Ninjato, because it isn't a historical weapon and only dates back to the 1960's.

[MastahShredder]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Still, a telescopic Bo are as silly as if Leo was using a pair of Gunblades from Final Fantasy 8. Y'know, it's all fantastical anyway.

The straight bladed ninja katana is less silly then a telescopic Bo, at least a straight bladed katana is still usable for combat.

I don't know what he has going on. All I'm saying is with all the tech going on on his body, would you really be surprised if his bo had some extra features? These people completely ignore logic when they want.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Sorry, are we still talking about Donnie's bo?

I'm still aughing at the thought of Leo dual wielding gunblades from Final Fantasy!

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

Sorry, are we still talking about Donnie's bo?

I'm still aughing at the thought of Leo dual wielding gunblades from Final Fantasy!

Or Sephs Blade hahaha