The NEW Official Trailer Discussion

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by slingtheory

because I can see dude. and everything i've seen tells me they are bigger than the average height of an adult human male. and because I know there has already been a script written where they were described as being about 6 and half feet I'm going to assume they stuck with that. and even if you're right and they are in fact the sizes of the actors playing them its still an odd way to go because how many 6 feet and up guys do you know who don't stand out and attract attention. I have to imagine it'd be kind of hard for a mutant turtle creature that size to stay out of sight

I literally just spelled it out for you its not a debate they are 6' only other thing that could possible make it more clear is the freaking Production Telling you straight to your face

GUH SMH

ITS fact i proved they're only 6' that's it You say they're not your just lying to yourself I back up my Hypothesis will accurate equations In science this would Indisputable proof and yet YOU REFUSE to accept it.

Fact LEO is 6' thats it
SCIENCE proves that indisputable Science.

plenty by the way I my self an 6'2" and Ive been 6' since Freshman year if not junior high and Used to sneak and hide and stay hidden as did many of my friends who are also 6'

ALso Many of the NAvy seals (masters a stealth) happen to be 6' and above on many occasions

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

i never liked math.,...


but jokes aside the thing is sam until we see the turtles NEXT TO April or Vernon or even Shredder noone is going to feel right about the heights ..you can scream at us till you are blue in the face..but i need to see it with my own eyes

and as sling and i said 6ft tall is still huge especially before you factor in the whole mutant turtle thing

i knew a kid who was 6ft tall when he was 11..i was 18 and 5'11

he stood out like a sore thumb.

and again we have no idea if the actors heights will be the real heights...aside from the mirage comics and frew wolf toons the turtles are always different heights Donnie being the tallest..thats why some fear he will end up 7ft tall

[slingtheory]

while I do believe that cgi gives you more expressive faces than what would've been possible using suits I don't agree with the way its been done. even when peter laird was talking about making a new live action movie he was talking about using c.g. for the faces and I bet if that movie would have got the green light we would've ended up with more inhuman turtle looking faces selling the same emotion and expressiveness

[MajorViolence]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

i knew a kid who was 6ft tall when he was 11..i was 18 and 5'11

he stood out like a sore thumb.

One of my childhood friends was actually over 6' in 3rd grade. It was nuts. Though it helped that he was actually a relative of Andre the Giant, and had the same genetic condition with his petuitary gland.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by MajorViolence

One of my childhood friends was actually over 6' in 3rd grade. It was nuts. Though it helped that he was actually a relative of Andre the Giant, and had the same genetic condition with his petuitary gland.

my oldest brother is 4ft tall...poor guy

[MajorViolence]

I don't think anyone actually wants them to go back to puppet heads. A lot of us would like the CG models to have a much greater resemblance to the design the puppet faces used, however.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

uh the old faces had eye lids...and jaws..and eye brows..and everything you pretty much listed...without lips


they were more subtle that these

Not really Sorry

Seriously I love the original movies I do i really do and i hate picking on them but seriously

this does not in any way look more Emotive

Then this



Sorry i just dont agree there is so much more emotion they can convey using this new look then they could even come close to using animatronics, IM sorry

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by MajorViolence

Blue Door said they were around 6 and a half feet. I've seen absolutely nothing to convince me they deviated from that concept.

I've been going through doing my own rewrite of the Blue Door script just for fun.

Hilarious note:

The turtles are described as being six and a half feet tall.

Bebop and Rocksteady are later stated to be over six feet tall.

I think someone forgot they made the turtles tall in the script.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

not talking emotion talking subtle


those "puppet" faces to me show more emotion than these gi faces because they had to fight for it

i know what went into those faces, ive studied them

Jim Henson is the reason i went to puppetry/film school

every hear of over acting..thats how i see the 2014 turtles

maybe if they where at least dressed the same way i could let it slide..but the subtlety is in more than the faces being able to emote

and literally every picture you picked of 2014 raph shows him angry so how can i base him being more emotive if i have nothing but and angry face to look at?

you picked the one stoic moment of shock from the 1990 movie, when he is supposed to be dead face

these so much more from smiles to sadness

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

i never liked math.,...


but jokes aside the thing is sam until we see the turtles NEXT TO April or Vernon or even Shredder noone is going to feel right about the heights ..you can scream at us till you are blue in the face..but i need to see it with my own eyes

and as sling and i said 6ft tall is still huge especially before you factor in the whole mutant turtle thing

i knew a kid who was 6ft tall when he was 11..i was 18 and 5'11

he stood out like a sore thumb.

and again we have no idea if the actors heights will be the real heights...aside from the mirage comics and frew wolf toons the turtles are always different heights Donnie being the tallest..thats why some fear he will end up 7ft tall

SMH i gues So doesn't make any sense im telling you AS fact because it is fact leo in that photo is 6' now if they go all Ang lee and change the height then yes i'm wrong but i doubt they are seeing as there using a skeleton created using Mocap so thus the height isn't going to change like Ang lees did.

6' tall isn't huge im 6' and i know im above average but by no means am i huge. My friends 6'7" and hes not huge, just taller, When we have Basketball players reaching 7' a person or turtle who is 6' that not that big.

As for Donnie the point is 2/4 are their actors heights Jeremy Howard Is 6'5" so he still fits the "donnie is taller" theme
And Noel Fisher is 5'8" so he fit the "short brother" theme

And given what Evidence we do have

Donnie: Donnie fighting foot and only being 2-5 inches taller
Mikey: Mikey landing in front of April and here head being at about his mouth/nose level

It would seem their heights are At the very least If not fact, around the same height as their actors,

But if Leo and Raph are the same height as their actors Then why wouldn't Mikey and Donnie

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

SMH i gues So doesn't make any sense im telling you AS fact because it is fact

but it isnt fact..until the movie comes or some one from production tells is its still speculation..no matter how much math you do...even if you are 100% right

untill someone who worked on the movie ( something you have told me and a few others) tells us other wise its not a fact its specualtion

Originally Posted by samxsteal

seeing as there using a skeleton created using Mocap so thus the height isn't going to change like Ang lees did.

you do realize that in all 3 hulk movies, that is exactly how he was done..with mo cap

lee is 5'9'' norton is 6'0'' rufallo is 5'8''


all 3 had to me made at least 8ft tall to be hulk on screen all 3 had to be grown, ang lees hulk isnt bad because of the side its bad for other reasons..hulks size being one of the only things done right

[slingtheory]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

I literally just spelled it out for you its not a debate they are 6' only other thing that could possible make it more clear is the freaking Production Telling you straight to your face

GUH SMH

ITS fact i proved they're only 6' that's it You say they're not your just lying to yourself I back up my Hypothesis will accurate equations In science this would Indisputable proof and yet YOU REFUSE to accept it.

Fact LEO is 6' thats it
SCIENCE proves that indisputable Science.

plenty by the way I my self an 6'2" and Ive been 6' since Freshman year if not junior high and Used to sneak and hide and stay hidden as did many of my friends who are also 6'

ALso Many of the NAvy seals (masters a stealth) happen to be 6' and above on many occasions

yeah but did you do while having green skin and a shell in a city that never sleeps? either way you slice it they're pretty big and id image it would complicate things concerning being stealthy but whatever. I just prefer my turtles being around or under average height. it highlights the skilled martial artist angle when they are either on equal footing with their opponents or their opponents tower over them. that's what makes it impressive when they take down big guys like hun or to a lesser extent bebop and rocksteady. in this movie it look likes they're the big guys to the point where its hard to believe anyone normal would have a chance against them and it doesn't feel right.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

not talking emotion talking subtle


those "puppet" faces to me show more emotion than these gi faces because they had to fight for it

i know what went into those faces, ive studied them

Jim Henson is the reason i went to puppetry/film school

every hear of over acting..thats how i see the 2014 turtles

maybe if they where at least dressed the same way i could let it slide..but the subtlety is in more than the faces being able to emote

and literally every picture you picked of 2014 raph shows him angry so how can i base him being more emotive if i have nothing but and angry face to look at?

you picked the one stoic moment of shock from the 1990 movie, when he is supposed to be dead face

these so much more from smiles to sadness
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...cV26Z4kMaQ-k_Q
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs48/i/20...amerAshley.jpg
http://theathleticnerd.com/wp-conten...9140773465.jpg

Because that was the emotion i was comparing And og movie raph isn't in shock that's his angry face that my point

Seriously dont get me wrong I love the OG movie with a passion and i love Jim and his work and the suits they used But im sorry there is going to be so much more emotion going on Just for the fact that humans go through dozens of emotion with in minutes, subtitle changes in eye brows eyes cheeks jaw lips And they can capture every single human emotion because of the Mo-cap, you can't tell me Animatronics can do the samething, the Closest thing I've seen is animatronics from Prometheus

IM sorry Mocap you pretty much get the exact face of the actor in turtle form

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

but it isnt fact..until the movie comes or some one from production tells is its still speculation..no matter how much math you do...even if you are 100% right

untill someone who worked on the movie ( something you have told me and a few others) tells us other wise its not a fact its specualtion

Yes is Fact they Put leo in the scene in the scene there are brick those brick are a specific height multiply that by how many bricks high leo is(taking into account posture) it comes to a definitive height So unless they Completely change that scene and make him taller IN the exact scene then leo is 6'

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

you do realize that in all 3 hulk movies, that is exactly how he was done..with mo cap

lee is 5'9'' norton is 6'0'' rufallo is 5'8''


all 3 had to me made at least 8ft tall to be hulk on screen all 3 had to be grown, ang lees hulk isnt bad because of the side its bad for other reasons..hulks size being one of the only things done right

I understand that OMG that not what IM saying. IN ang lee hulkm, the Hulk size never stayed the same it grew and shrank because they didn't use mocap, Norton, and rufflo they have a base Skeleton that they use in reference with Mocap for the hulk and it doesn't change in size.

So unless they Purposely Change Leos height is a different Height in another section of the movie, Which wouldn't make sense seeing as they would have the base skeleton already made in reference to the Petes mocaping suit. It wont change Unless we now have constantly growing and shrinking turtles, Which i doubt.

Notice how Hulk in the Norton movie and avengers is always the same height its because they have a consistent correlation between the model skeleton and the mocap actor,

Where as ang lee did not have this, so the hulks size would change from scene to scene

So Leos Height wont change Unless by the time the movie Comes out they completely redo that particular scene of him on the bricks to make him taller, which isn't likely

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

I understand that OMG that not what IM saying. IN ang lee hulkm, the Hulk size never stayed the same it grew and shrank because they didn't use mocap,

not true..hulk grew because he got angrier , anger fueled his power..you know like always happens with hulk

and yes they did use mo cap..ang lee did it himself you can see it right here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69fBPlqYHyo

only difference between all 3 was norton did the mocap and played banner but did mo cap in a studio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47G65D8tB-M

Ruffalo did the mo cap on set with all the actors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF_a5TOKLRU

[Puddinpop]

Not sure where to post this bc the Image thread is locked but


For a toy its not bad. I cant wait to see the movie version

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

aside from the eyes, which is more on playmates, he doesnt look to bad

i mean its not the best but could be worse i guess, he looks more rat than human

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

not true..hulk grew because he got angrier , anger fueled his power..you know like always happens with hulk

and yes they did use mo cap..ang lee did it himself you can see it right here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69fBPlqYHyo

only difference between all 3 was norton did the mocap and played banner but did mo cap in a studio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47G65D8tB-M

Ruffalo did the mo cap on set with all the actors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF_a5TOKLRU

Ok doesn't change the fact the Leo is not going to be changing Size in this movie

[Puddinpop]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

aside from the eyes, which is more on playmates, he doesnt look to bad

i mean its not the best but could be worse i guess he looks more rat than human

I agree Boston : ) I've also noticed that the symbol on his clothing is the same symbol from an old promo



I think it might have something to do with the scroll we saw in the trailer. I am happy with what seems to be a rich back story that they seem to be including in this movie and not just having a mindless action film. Also judging by the leaked script page it seems that we will also get to see the strong family dynamic " I hope " as well. Everything is starting to come together imo. I hope they do it right.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Not once did I say he would change size mid movie, I never claimed any of them did, I , along with others said....6ft is tall for a turtle when they are usually in the 4/5ft range

All I said about height change was that the animators could decide to change it up or down

That Pete being 6ft does not mean Leo has to be 6ft if the animators so chose he could be shorter or taller in the final product

Or woodburn being 4ft mean splinter will be that short he can be ranged

You have claimed they still are animating it so why can't size change before August 8th?