The NEW Official Trailer Discussion

[GeneralTragg]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

I was talking about the lair shot with April in the lair with all the NINJA weapons on the table you know the ones they supposedly wont be using in the movie.


And as i have said before had April been cast as anyone other then Megan this would not be a complaint. but because its Megan these dont count as appropriate marketing stills Just remember this Sam rock well was and "official" movie still for the original movie yup and Danny, and April, and Casey,



Thats 18 different marketing releases a couple more if you count the Booklet they handed out the 3d glasses info released, the Movie theater toppers

If this movie disappoints you in possible every way will you actually post that it did?

[UGHShellshocked]

Originally Posted by Radical Raph

In fact, marketing has been so weak for this thing that it's actually starting to dwindle my excitement. Not just from the lack of new footage, but because the lack of marketing makes me question the studio's confidence in their product.

I'm still keeping the faith and hope to be completely blown away by the possible longer more detailed trailer but if the next trailer is exactly the same scenes with a few seconds it might just kill off some of my excitement

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

And as i have said before had April been cast as anyone other then Megan this would not be a complaint.

i cant speak for everyone but me personally, id still be calling shenanigans whether april was fox,scarjo, or emma stone


its not the actress behind april i have the issue with, i have an issue with the a movie called "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" focusing on its human actress

i had an issue with shia being the focus of transformers..and he is so not my type, cute dude but not my cup of tea

as for 1990 film, wrong many stills showed the turtles and splinter...also back then stills where not released like they are today

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by UGHShellshocked

I'm with you Boston and if I were in the big chair calling the shots I would be putting out trailers left and right even if the trailers consisted of nothing but deleted scenes. I would have dropped this trailer on the Super Bowl. I still feel like I haven't seen anything about this movie yet just a bunch of toys and mere seconds.

I'm still in middle of the road but I'm leaning to the positive but they could release the next trailer and I could absolutely hate it.

Originally Posted by Radical Raph

In fact, marketing has been so weak for this thing that it's actually starting to dwindle my excitement.

all that has released in just two months Two months people seriously How is that enough in two months we got 4 trailer/tv spots, 7 posters 6 stills
two months TWO MONTHS

I get wanting to see more but to say we have gotten enough marketing


The first two months after releasing the trailer for transformers they only had two trailers/tv spots, and 5 photo and two posters 6 stills, 7 posters

Almost exactly the same of those Posters and stills, 7 are human focused.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

the issue sam is that this movie shouldn't be treated with a passing oh will be do fine...you keep ignoring the FACT that Guardians of the Galaxy comes out at the exact same time

and expendables 3 right after...and yes expendables could easily over power turtles

you know what i will say say it..we should be saturated in turtles stuff because they want people to go see it in favor of GOTG

not hiding behind the same picture edited over and over

no one is questioning the amount of stuff sam just is quality and its focus

Meghan Fox aka April Oneil is not a Ninja Turtle

lack of turtles tells me and many others that the studio has no more faith after the back lash

and it isn't like this is their first back lash at designs...again look at transformers...yet optimus and Bee were everywhere and continue to be


face it either the studio doesn't care anymore or they have no idea what they are doing

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by GeneralTragg

If this movie disappoints you in possible every way will you actually post that it did?

If i dont like it i will say so But im not going to linger and focus on negative thing its just Idiotic to focus on negative thing in life when you can look to the good in things. If i find something i do like in it i focus on those aspects.

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

i cant speak for everyone but me personally, id still be calling shenanigans whether april was fox,scarjo, or emma stone


its not the actress behind april i have the issue with, i have an issue with the a movie called "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" focusing on its human actress

i had an issue with shia being the focus of transformers..and he is so not my type, cute dude but not my cup of tea

as for 1990 film, wrong many stills showed the turtles and splinter...also back then stills where not released like they are today

So you mean like Godzilla, (dont get me wrong i loved the movie) But for a movie titled Godzilla, theres not much Godzilla.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

So you mean like Godzilla, (dont get me wrong i loved the movie) But for a movie titled Godzilla, theres not much Godzilla.

i personally havent seen it yet so i can give a 100% answer but from everything i have heard no, Godzilla actually keeps true to all past godzilla films (aside from 1998 but i dont count that one)

Godzilla always had major human presence most of the time either preparing or in need of the King of Kaiju. only for Godzilla to show up at the end when needed

Major summed it up best in another thread

Originally Posted by MajorViolence

It's the same thing I've been telling people that have been complaining about Godzilla not having enough monster fighting. If you want that sort of thing, watch Pacific Rim, but Godzilla is and always has been (the good movies anyway) about human-based plots that provide dramatic buildup to a relatively small amount of onscreen monster fights.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

the issue sam is that this movie shouldn't be treated with a passing oh will be do fine...you keep ignoring the FACT that Guardians of the Galaxy comes out at the exact same time

and expendables 3 right after...and yes expendables could easily over power turtles

you know what i will say say it..we should be saturated in turtles stuff because they want people to go see it in favor of GOTG

not hiding behind the same picture edited over and over

no one is questioning the amount of stuff sam just is quality and its focus

Meghan Fox aka April Oneil is not a Ninja Turtle

lack of turtles tells me and many others that the studio has no more faith after the back lash

and it isn't like this is their first back lash at designs...again look at transformers...yet optimus and Bee were everywhere and continue to be


face it either the studio doesn't care anymore or they have no idea what they are doing

You know what I have this debate before, Oh yup turtle should have started Marketing a year before release, then they should have told the whole plot up word for word, they should release so much stuff that people start to ignore it, then they should release half assed half done CGI, to the point that when the movie come out there is no mystery, Oh


Truth is I said they March we would get something at least a trailer people said nope they wouldn't do that nope they dont care enough to release anything WELL GUESS WHAT they did, i wont even get in to the over reacting and outrageous claims made about the movie Based on nothing except "the people working on this movie a stupid"

Then they have Steadily released photo posters and even trailers for the past two months only to start Amping up marketing in JUNE a good TWO MONTHS from release, Magazine article, Movie section in a major TMNT book, A new trailer, Continued photo released How is that "lazy" or "lack" of marketing its not.


-UN: they terrible at marketing
-me: what if they release a trailer in march?
-UN: there too stupid to do that they aren't going to do that
*releases Trailer*
-UN: gah these turtles suck GUH They must not have faith in them
-ME: i doubt that what if the released another trailer?
-UN: not going to happen you see those faces they should ever so them again there not smart there not going to release another trailer
*releases TV spot"
-ME: ok so the released a newer trailer pretty good
-UN: The EDIT the mask part they much not have faith Theres splinter But there is no way they smart enough to release another trailer they must not have faith
*Releases Leo still*
-ME:Oh cool see they have faith in designs
-UN:OMG HOW COME we cant get more photo they must not have faith
*release Extended trailer*
-ME: oh cool love the new footage more turtles look mikey looks awesome
-UN: Mikey looks ok now BUT DONNIE OMG why does he look so stupid Why aren't the releasing more Photos?
*releases photo"
-ME: cool the lair and raphs sais
-UN: GUH WHY APRIL MORE TURTLES
*releases Names poster*
-UN: see NO FAITH NO TURTLES
*releases Shadow Leo poster*
-ME: awesome tag line
-UN WHY AREN'T THEY NEW TURTLE GUH NO WAY THEY HAVE FAITH
*JUNE RELEASES:
-Magazine article
-Visual History
-New trailer
-photos*

Not to mention all the interviews of the actors and them showing there support of the movie

Support from Kevin

Support from the director

[Radical Raph]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

all that has released in just two months Two months people seriously How is that enough in two months we got 4 trailer/tv spots, 7 posters 6 stills
two months TWO MONTHS

I get wanting to see more but to say we have gotten enough marketing


The first two months after releasing the trailer for transformers they only had two trailers/tv spots, and 5 photo and two posters 6 stills, 7 posters

Almost exactly the same of those Posters and stills, 7 are human focused.

But even the marketing they have shown so far doesn't show a lot of confidence in their turtle designs or the movie. There's been very little interviews or hype beyond bland pics of April and trailers with the same footage. And we still haven't seen an official full body shot of the turtles. I'm just saying, in an age of over marketing it seems to very much be lacking in that department.

[GeneralTragg]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

*releases Shadow Leo poster*
-ME: awesome tag line

What tag line?

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Sam i am not debating you i am using facts based on what we are being given

and you are confusing quantity of quality...not once have i said we aren't getting anything just what we are getting is flat out crap,



tomorrow GOTG could release 120 new images but if its nothing but the same christ pratt abs image edited 1600 different ways people will be pissed( aside from fan girls)

and quality does not mean half assed CGI it just means give the movies focus its due credit...you claim the the turtles will not be playing second fiddle to Fox they show me, prove it, give me something to ease my worry

you are ignoring that for a movie called "TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES" we are seeing very little Turtle

Originally Posted by samxsteal

Support from Kevin

Support from the director

we have talked about this...Kevin is not the best source


and where is this support from the director (not Bay)

[Sumac]

Very odd approach to the marketing.
Why release posters with shadowed Turtles, if we already have seen them in the trailer?
It doesn't make any lick of sense.

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Radical Raph

But even the marketing they have shown so far doesn't show a lot of confidence in their turtle designs or the movie. There's been very little interviews or hype beyond bland pics of April and trailers with the same footage. And we still haven't seen an official full body shot of the turtles. I'm just saying, in an age of over marketing it seems to very much be lacking in that department.

I get what your saying, But just because some ruins it for everyone doesn't make it right , heck transformers Marketing very similar, Wolf of wall-street Marketed similarly, Pretty much every Paramount movie with in the past two years all market similarly.

and yet those are complained about picked apart

I just get so damn tired of this Well THIS BIG KID DOES IT THIS WAY SO THATS THE RIGHT WAY.

No its not. They have there own plan its that same plan they've had from the beginning

Sorry not trying to yell or rant at you i get why people think this way but doesn't make it right or wrong (except ASM II Should have cut that marketing in half)

Originally Posted by GeneralTragg

What tag line?

Justice dwells in the shadows. #TMNTMovie

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

Sam i am not debating you i am using facts based on what we are being given

and you are confusing quantity of quality...not once have i said we aren't getting anything just what we are getting is flat out crap,

We get Several HD SHOTS yes of april but if you look beyond that one actress there alot to those shots

Turtle lair

Raphs sais foot on the ground

Mystery location

Vernon

Leo HD plenty of detail you can see his freaking teeth in the photo, little details, NYC button, leather straps

Then we get POster HIGHELY DETAILED
Skin textures fabric steel beads

I don;t see any of these as low quality at all.

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

tomorrow GOTG could release 120 new images but if its nothing but the same christ pratt abs image edited 1600 different ways people will be pissed( aside from fan girls)

I seriously doubt it

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

and quality does not mean half assed CGI it just means give the movies focus its due credit...you claim the the turtles will not be playing second fiddle to Fox they show me, prove it, give me something to ease my worry

So rush them working on the CGI to quickly release A couple photos to Shut the Fans up, mk seem like a good thing to do Halt production because fans are impatient that all this seems like, this is all that its seemed like Since they announced this movie its never fast enough or enough info. You do really need to be spoon feed info and images daily? cuz that how it seems,

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

you are ignoring that for a movie called "TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES" we are seeing very little Turtle

Very Little we get three trailer yeah the first trailer was heavy on april but the tv spot have plenty of turtles and Splinter and the last trailer have even more turtles and splinter.

Then we get Character posters all turtles now we get the new Shadow poster that turtle focused, and then 4 images of FOX yup SO much Megan fox not enough turtles Heck Cut April out the movie shes on an important part of the mythos

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

we have talked about this...Kevin is not the best source


and where is this support from the director (not Bay)

YOUR OPINION,

and Several interviews

[UGHShellshocked]

That poster looks like the district 9 poster

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Very odd approach to the marketing.
Why release posters with shadowed Turtles, if we already have seen them in the trailer?
It doesn't make any lick of sense.

yup because its not like we have spent the past page and a half explaining other movies do this Godzilla, CA TWS, ASM II, XMEN DOFP, WOLVERINE,

Nope yup terrible terrible marketing up all those movies suck and are terrible at marketing

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

We get Several HD SHOTS yes of april but if you look beyond that one actress there alot to those shots

Turtle lair

Raphs sais foot on the ground

Mystery location

Vernon

Leo HD plenty of detail you can see his freaking teeth in the photo, little details, NYC button, leather straps

Then we get POster HIGHELY DETAILED
Skin textures fabric steel beads

I don;t see any of these as low quality at all.

you aren't getting what i mean but quality don't make me spell it out for you please


i am not talking about it look wise i am talking about quality in the sense of who and what we are getting

if you showed those without Leo to someone who knew nothing about this movie i bet you they couldn't guess it was TMNT

all those pictures you listed only one shows actual turtle and again its from a shot we keep seeing over and over in trailers its not a new shot

Originally Posted by samxsteal

yup because its not like we have spent the past page and a half explaining other movies do this Godzilla, CA TWS, ASM II, XMEN DOFP, WOLVERINE,

Nope yup terrible terrible marketing up all those movies suck and are terrible at marketing

aside from Godzilla no no they didn't..you showed us fan art sam..come on i am trying to be patient with you and not start a fight but come on dude

and even then Godzilla only showed Mystery shots until the Lizard was ready to be seen

you cant compare turtles to wolf of wall street they are very different genres......this is summer block buster vs Oscarbate

[UGHShellshocked]

The marketing has been terrible and this goes to show you that merchandise shouldn't be the first impression that we are given nor should we have to settle for seeing just The human element of the film. It's like yeah cool she's wearing a yellow coat and added red to her hair but they shouldn't treat the turtles, Splinter or Shredder like Bigfoot.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by samxsteal

and Several interviews

I haven't seen a single interview with Liebesman about TMNT. I've been waiting to see something from him.

I can has link?

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

you aren't getting what i mean but quality don't make me spell it out for you please


i am not talking about it look wise i am talking about quality in the sense of who and what we are getting

if you showed those without Leo to someone who knew nothing about this movie i bet you they couldn't guess it was TMNT

all those pictures you listed only one shows actual turtle and again its from a shot we keep seeing over and over in trailers its not a new shot

And yup forget about all the poster those don't count.

aside from Godzilla no no they didn't..you showed us fan art sam..come on i am trying to be patient with you and not start a fight but come on dude

Seriously Boston i get it you just like to disagree with me But Lying isn't helping you cause Just Google any movie and tag poster in there your going to find Poster almost exactly the same style
Wolverine http://www.impawards.com/2013/posters/wolverine.jpghttp://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...ada_poster.jpg

Spoiler:

Captain Americahttp://www.comingsoon.net/gallery/76...Soldier_66.jpg

Spoiler:

Spidermanhttp://www.comingsoon.net/gallery/75...r-Man_2_60.jpg

Spoiler:

Xmen

Spoiler:

Godzillahttp://www.comingsoon.net/gallery/64...odzilla_26.jpg

Spoiler:

Transformerhttp://www.comingsoon.net/gallery/84...inction_30.jpg

Spoiler:

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

I haven't seen a single interview with Liebesman about TMNT. I've been waiting to see something from him.

I can has link?

It's berried in one of these threads Use your search function you will find it