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Old 05-30-2014, 05:44 PM   #21
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I like sexy violence & violent sex, the more the merrier.
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Old 05-30-2014, 05:45 PM   #22
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Everybody should just ignore Ultimate Ninja. He wants you guys to disagree so he can push his views on everyone. Pretty obvious he made this topic on purpose. Also because of how his last topic ended.

How hard is it to ignore people on message boards? You know when someone is just being stupid, trying to start an "I'm right, you're wrong" argument.
I came back to this topic, to reply to you. I don't want people to argue with me. I don't want to create a controversy.

My message is simple: Hollywood is harming our culture. By buying their entertainment, we are contributing to the harm placed on the culture. This makes people less moral and makes them more dangerous. Only stopping the money can change this, so I encourage you to join me in controlling your money. Yes, you should vote with your dollars, or then don't if you disagree with me. Ignoring the problem doesn't make it go away, but if you don't view the awful content that Hollywood makes as a problem, then by all means keep buying it, and eventually you will watch the culture collapse, and then you may wonder why it happened, when in reality you all contributed to it because you continued to reinforce negative messages, when all you need to do is simply don't spend your money on garbage entertainment.
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Old 05-30-2014, 05:52 PM   #23
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If you want to preach, join a church. This isn't the place for it. Hell, you're quite the hypocrite, even. TMNT series' across the generations have had plenty of violence, themes I imagine you'd not approve of, and even sexualized characters.
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Old 05-30-2014, 05:53 PM   #24
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I'unno my dude. Been a long time since society advocated crucifixions, beheadings, or boiling people in oil in real life. I mean, we used to do that stuff allll the time, waaaay back before it was all over TV and movies like it is now. Stuff like Spartacus and Game of Thrones gets mad attention, and I don't see anyone calling for any of the stuff depicted in those shows to make a real-life comeback.

Except for sexy bi-curious servant orgies. That stuff needs to make a real-life comeback like yesterday.

Anyways, society's fine. Everyone's getting stupider, but that's not because of too many boobs on TV and movies. Relaaaaax.

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Old 05-30-2014, 05:56 PM   #25
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This person sounds like a religious Church go-er or something.

It's like Ned Flanders from Simpsons in real life.
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Old 05-30-2014, 05:59 PM   #26
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If you want to preach, join a church. This isn't the place for it. Hell, you're quite the hypocrite, even. TMNT series' across the generations have had plenty of violence, themes I imagine you'd not approve of, and even sexualized characters.
People in church don't seem to be the ones buying the garbage entertainment. I don't really need to tell them what I'm telling you.


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I'unno my dude. Been a long time since society advocated crucifixions, beheadings, or boiling people in oil in real life. I mean, we used to do that stuff all the time, waaaay back before it was all over TV and movies like it is now. Stuff like Spartacus and Game of Thrones gets mad attention, and I don't see anyone calling for any of the stuff depicted in those shows to make a real-life comeback.

Except for sexy bi-curious servant orgies. That stuff needs to make a real-life comeback like yesterday.

Anyways, society's fine. Everyone's getting stupider, but that's not because of too many boobs on TV and movies. Relaaaaax.



High-five, I lol'd.
So just relax then? Well I hope you're right. I really do. I hope all the bad messages stay on TV and don't influence your thoughts and actions. I really want you to be right. I hope I'm wrong, and I hope you're right.
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Old 05-30-2014, 06:03 PM   #27
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This person sounds like a religious Church go-er or something.

It's like Ned Flanders from Simpsons in real life.
Thanks man, because I just updated my avatar on this forum. Ned Flanders has it right, at least he seemed to. I haven't watched The Simpsons in awhile.
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Old 05-30-2014, 06:03 PM   #28
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People in church don't seem to be the ones buying the garbage entertainment. I don't really need to tell them what I'm telling you.




So just relax then? Well I hope you're right. I really do. I hope all the bad messages stay on TV and don't influence your thoughts and actions. I really want you to be right. I hope I'm wrong, and I hope you're right.
I'm not going to waste time and rephrase what others have said, but you're being extremely sanctimonious about this. If you don't like the condition of hollywood today, don't go to the movies and don't come here to complain, your beliefs are falling on deaf ears.
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Old 05-30-2014, 06:05 PM   #29
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And even Ned caved in and nailed Mrs. Krabapel. Nobody's morals are air-tight.
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And even Ned caved in and nailed Mrs. Krabapel. Nobody's morals are air-tight.
Really, when did that happen?
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Old 05-30-2014, 06:07 PM   #31
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People in church don't seem to be the ones buying the garbage entertainment. I don't really need to tell them what I'm telling you.
A good friend pointed this out to me once when I was having a hard time, pointing out only the sins in a person is not going to make them want to hear you out.

You just can't put your morales and standards on others if they don't believe those to be wrong.
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Old 05-30-2014, 06:08 PM   #32
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Really, when did that happen?
Weren't they going out for, like, the last few seasons before Marcia Wallace died?
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Old 05-30-2014, 06:19 PM   #33
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A good friend pointed this out to me once when I was having a hard time, pointing out only the sins in a person is not going to make them want to hear you out.

You just can't put your morales and standards on others if they don't believe those to be wrong.
True. I believe you're right.

Hey, sorry everybody. I guess what happens in the movies stays in the movies then? I think I made a clown out of myself. *honks my own clown nose and slowly backs away.*
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Old 05-30-2014, 09:54 PM   #34
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Hollywood movies these days don't even have hardly any sex or violence.

They have "sex appeal" in the form of objectifying the cast sure, but how often does one even see a titty or a dong in a movie these days? Not very often. They want to be PG13, R is scary and NC17 is forbidden, so they have this half-ass thing where they "use" sexuality in a shallow way but not in any sort of meaningful or even explicit way.

Same for violence most of the time. They shoot at dudes and punch people but it's all 1-second cuts in shakycam where no one actually hits anyone and none of the punches really connect or anything. Hell most fight scenes are a large portion or completely CG at this point. I remember everyone talking about Saw as some crazy gory bloodfest and it just...wasn't. There were maybe two scenes where violence actually was shown, the rest was implied, cut away from, or faked in the story itself. And that's how most movies in the past couple decades seem to me.

Anyway my point is don't give Hollywood your money because they are boring. They trick you into thinking they have tits and blood but they don't. Go watch a low budget Japanese flick shot on video with crazy makeup effects and comical use of boobs and have a good time instead. Watch a movie that knows what it is and doesn't pretend to be something beyond it, doesn't insult your intelligence by tricking you with it's flashy nothing.
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Old 05-30-2014, 11:40 PM   #35
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And even Ned caved in and nailed Mrs. Krabapel. Nobody's morals are air-tight.
And then she DIED.

This Ultimate Ninja might be on to something.

If you do things, or enjoy things, you'll DIE.
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Old 05-31-2014, 12:01 AM   #37
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We should boycott life for having sex, violence, drugs, and alcohol! Who's with me? It's not like people have choices or anything... Let's all be Nazis and work towards a better future, starting with Hollywood.
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Old 05-31-2014, 12:19 AM   #38
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The scary thing is in real life there are people like this who actually exist. And there are millions of them.

While most are 30 year old Soccer Moms who think they're protecting their children, there are a lot of older males who are like this too. Its almost a parody since you can't believe in today's modern society that people can have such a view.

I mean they're the same age as us, they grew up in the 90's like we did. I can understand our parents generation being like they were, but we grew up in the age of TV, the internet, movies, videogames, etc. How the hell is it possible?
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Thanks man, because I just updated my avatar on this forum. Ned Flanders has it right, at least he seemed to. I haven't watched The Simpsons in awhile.
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Old 05-31-2014, 01:01 AM   #40
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The scary thing is in real life there are people like this who actually exist. And there are millions of them.

While most are 30 year old Soccer Moms who think they're protecting their children, there are a lot of older males who are like this too. Its almost a parody since you can't believe in today's modern society that people can have such a view.

I mean they're the same age as us, they grew up in the 90's like we did. I can understand our parents generation being like they were, but we grew up in the age of TV, the internet, movies, videogames, etc. How the hell is it possible?
Let me tell you something. I was skirting around the issue. Here is why I made this topic:

I see a lot of bad sh*t on the news. I see a lot of bad sh*t in movies and in fake TV shows. So I started putting two and two together, and came to the deluded conclusion that maybe, just maybe, the bad sh*t in the movies was reinforcing the bad people in real life. So I got p*ssed off, and I made this topic to rant against Hollywood.

Now, that said, I realize that the majority of people who watch bad movies are okay people, and they don't do stuff that they see in a movie. I realize that most people are basically sane, or I hope they are, and that only a crazy person would actually blur the line between reality and fantasy.

I get scared when I watch the news. I used this message board as a forum to vent. I obviously scapegoated Hollywood. It isn't Hollywood's fault I guess.

I sincerely apologize to everyone I offended. I was irrational. If I don't like some movies, then I don't have to watch them.

I just want a more peaceful and tolerant world, and when people use bad movies as entertainment, it disturbs me. I can't figure out why something bad would be used as a source of joy for someone, even if that bad content is fake and produced in a Hollywood studio, but hey, I guess that is my problem that I don't understand other people and I need to stop thinking about it.

Edit: It was a bad idea to make this topic. I approached it from an irrational viewpoint. I obviously made a lot of people angry. I'm sorry I offended people here and I'm sorry for wasting your time. I don't know what else to say, other than I'm young and I have unrealistic hopes and dreams and ideas and that I guess I'm an irrational person.

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