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[Redeemer]

If I was a bulls fan I wouldn't watch them right now either. Rose can't stay healthy to save his life.

Originally Posted by XERO

Yeah, it was just a awesome 3. I'm just glad the Spurs didn't fold and let them walk over them. We fought to the end. It was a great series and the better team won.

We'll see what happens this time.

I think the spurs are actually a better team overall, Miami doesn't have much of a bench especially this year. When they first signed Ray Allen I thought it was the wrong move, but Oh did he prove me wrong!

[XERO]

lol It's too bad Robert Horry is retired. We needed his Big Shot that night.

[Redeemer]

Who does everyone have winning tonight????
I am praying the Heat can take at least one before heading home. I got the Spurts tonight. The heat will only play their best when they have their backs against the wall!

[Redeemer]

I am flabbergasted, The spurs are getting so many calls going for them right now. Between Splitter's charge or Lebron's put back that was called Offensive interference......

But what are the odds that the A/C would go out on the first games of the finals!!!!

[XERO]

I've already lost count on how many "can't take the heat" jokes I've read.

That was a weird game. The heck happened to LeBron? The Spurs should've probably lost with those multiple turnovers.

[Wildcat]

The game should have been postponed. Ive been in places without AC during summer and just sitting there gets pretty uncomfortable. I cant imagine playing and making yourself even hotter through it.

Someone at the press conference asked if they thought it was "broken" on purpose. Thats just stupid. It was affecting both teams.

I don't think it cost the Heat the win. They had a lead and let it slip. Wade and the rest are good enough to carry the team for 5 mins or whatever it was. Wade was the star before anyway and has played great.

I know some people will probably compare Lebron to Jordan's sick game but thats unfair. Everyone has different health limits. He had a similar issue against the Magic when he was in Cleveland. The game should have been postponed anyway. Its unfair to the players and audience who pay to be there.

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

I know some people will probably compare Lebron to Jordan's sick game but thats unfair. Everyone has different health limits. He had a similar issue against the Magic when he was in Cleveland.

Hindsight is 20/20 as they say, but the players played under the same conditions.
But from a health stand point, I played football with the flu, able to play the whole game, but when I get an abdominal cramp I can't move and my abs gets so tight it forces me to curl into a ball. I always thought people over-exagerated cramps, but sense I began jogging I can now relate.

Like I said the refs gave that game to the spurs. The spurs should have losses in the 3rd quarter, but the refs kept them in that damn game.

[Wildcat]

Originally Posted by Redeemer

Hindsight is 20/20 as they say, but the players played under the same conditions.
But from a health stand point, I played football with the flu, able to play the whole game, but when I get an abdominal cramp I can't move and my abs gets so tight it forces me to curl into a ball. I always thought people over-exagerated cramps, but sense I began jogging I can now relate.

Like I said the refs gave that game to the spurs. The spurs should have losses in the 3rd quarter, but the refs kept them in that damn game.

Uh ya like I said the heat (temperature) affected both teams. I didn't mean it should be postponed because of Lebron...I said for players and fans. It was unfair for everyone.

The refs didn't give the Spurs the game. It was pretty evenly called. Flopping gets called, or I mean awarded, the majority of the time anyway. Theres always botched calls in NBA games but it was not drastically one-sided the way you're implying.

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

The refs didn't give the Spurs the game. It was pretty evenly called. Flopping gets called, or I mean awarded, the majority of the time anyway. Theres always botched calls in NBA games but it was not drastically one-sided the way you're implying.

Really????Not even close..... They called a freaking flagrant on Lebron for a shove, They called a offensive inference call on Lebron. The called a foul on Chalmers only after Parker's shot rang out of the basket, not during the shot but after the shot went in and out even the commentators specifically Stan van gunny was bitching about it. I can go on and on. The spurs were kept in that game by the refs.

[Wildcat]

Originally Posted by Redeemer

Really????Not even close..... They called a freaking flagrant on Lebron for a shove, They called a offensive inference call on Lebron. The called a foul on Chalmers only after Parker's shot rang out of the basket, not during the shot but after the shot went in and out even the commentators specifically Stan van gunny was bitching about it. I can go on and on. The spurs were kept in that game by the refs.

The flagrant was reduced to a normal foul but everything you're listing happens in almost every single game. Obviously the home team gets more favorable calls. I can list countless botched or "missed" calls over the years.

Really I do hate refs and feel they hurt the game because its an extra human factor that alot of times call it how they want. Plus there's alot of ridiculous rules in the NBA but in terms of THIS game, you're exaggerating it to be totally one-sided.

[shuriken]

^^No need hating on the refs. Miami willget their calls at home too.
Sucks for Lebron though. I've playing ball in a humid ass gym with no A/C and have also cramped up, having to crawl to the sidelines since I don't have anyone to carry me. As much as I dislike the Heat, I want no excuses for their loss. It was crazy after Lebron left it seems like the Heat sort of lost it and Spurs just dominted them in the end going on a 3 to 15 run.

[Wildcat]

Well I don't care who wins this. I don't hate the Heat, I like Wade, and itd be cool to see the Spurs win one more time in their Big 3 era.

In general I hate the refs because its obvious they call things how they want sometimes. No group of people, or any single person, would genuinely mess up and have that many bad/missed calls over all these years. Even things that happen right in front of them.

That extra human factor means the game will always be significantly flawed. You just hope there's a balance between any given 2 teams so that it doesn't border on rigging. Though sometimes its pretty bad.

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

The flagrant was reduced to a normal foul but everything you're listing happens in almost every single game. Obviously the home team gets more favorable calls. I can list countless botched or "missed" calls over the years.

Really I do hate refs and feel they hurt the game because its an extra human factor that alot of times call it how they want. Plus there's alot of ridiculous rules in the NBA but in terms of THIS game, you're exaggerating it to be totally one-sided.

When you have commentators calling-out the refs you know its bad.
You are right the refs have no rhyme or reason, but last night specifically Parker's Lay-up was outrageous. To call a foul based on whether or not a player makes the basket and not whether he was fouled or not is outrageous.
That call reminded me of the Tim Donaghy incident, but thats me being paranoid

[XERO]

2 more wins to go for the Spurs. I know Miami will come back with a vengeance next game, but I believe we can get it done.

[shuriken]

^^ Yeah. I simply can't bring myself to root for the Heat so I'll cheer for the Spurs ( plus Pop is an awesome coach and I'd pay to see him as a future commentator).
Even with the aforementioned calls (Chalmers being hit by nothing, clean blocks not being counted, Parker getting beat up with no calls) The Spurs simply annihilated them in the 1st half. That defecit was just too deep. Get your last ring and retire into the sunset Duncan.

[XERO]

Why do so many people want Duncan to retire? He'll go when he's ready. It's not like he's playing horrible or anything. He's probably the most consistent player of the previous generation and the generation before that. People just want him to get his storybook ending and go out as champion, which is understandable. But as long as he has a passion for the game, and can still pull out double-doubles almost every game, who are we to want him to retire?

I say let Tim Duncan go out the way Tim Duncan wants to go out. Besides, he still has a year left on his contract, anyway.

[shuriken]

Not saying I want him to retire (he's a double double machine) its just that playing at that level at that age does a hell of a lot of damage to the body. And retiring after winning a championship one last time would be fantastic for such a great player. If he can go another year then so be it, more power to the man.
also THAT KAWHI LEONARD PUT-BACK WAS AWESOME!!!
He's been great these passed two games.

[XERO]

1 more win to go. But I know Miami is gonna go nuts this time. They play better when their backs are against the wall. But at the same time, the Spurs have been playing beautiful basketball lately. I can't wait until tomorrow night.

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by XERO

1 more win to go. But I know Miami is gonna go nuts this time. They play better when their backs are against the wall. But at the same time, the Spurs have been playing beautiful basketball lately. I can't wait until tomorrow night.

I agree I want to say Miami will make a final stand, bc they always play better when they have their backs against the wall. But Spurs have been the only team to win consecutive games in the big 3 era....

Also the last two games everyone on the Miami Team except Lebron gave up. Lebron is trying to hold it together, but damn a man can only do so much. I wonder what the hell happened to Bosh and Wade these are suppose to be the top players in the NBA and One is a sure fire future hall of famed, but they have not been seen in the freaking series.

[XERO]

San Antonio Spurs. NBA Champs once again.

YES.