What would you like to see in Season #3?

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Gimme_Three

can someone explain what they mean when people say character development for mikey? It kinda annoys me when i read something like that.

Well, for me, I hate the fact that he is (was) portrayed as dumb, unfocused, and not taken seriously. I especially hated how they had to constantly go over plans because Mikey probably didn't "understand" it.

Season 2 is portraying him a bit better, though. I know people hated the Shellacne ep, but I actually liked it because he figured out correctly where Baxter, Dogpound, and Xever were and hated the fact he wasn't being taken seriously. I hate the fact that the others don't. He's also sometimes clumsy and goofs up, and that bothers me too and he seemed to be portrayed as incompetent, but like i said, seems this season is trying to rectify that. This current ep was great and portrayed Mikey in a way he should've been portrayed from the beginning.

[Gimme_Three]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

Well, for me, I hate the fact that he is (was) portrayed as dumb, unfocused, and not taken seriously. I especially hated how they had to constantly go over plans because Mikey probably didn't "understand" it.

Season 2 is portraying him a bit better, though. I know people hated the Shellacne ep, but I actually liked it because he figured out correctly where Baxter, Dogpound, and Xever were and hated the fact he wasn't being taken seriously. I hate the fact that the others don't. He's also sometimes clumsy and goofs up, and that bothers me too and he seemed to be portrayed as incompetent, but like i said, seems this season is trying to rectify that. This current ep was great and portrayed Mikey in a way he should've been portrayed from the beginning.

I dont see it like that though, take away those traits ("develop") and then you'll have a leo jr. raph jr. etc.

He's not dumb but he is unfocused, carefree, and a prank/jokster which is why the team doesn't take him seriously. He picks on/ trolls his brother just as much as they pick on him. He's the annoying runt kid brother that loves and fights for the attention and spotlight. That's the difference between him and his brothers take that away and you're taking away mikey.

when mikey does focus or, is right about something and comes through for his brothers it's what makes those moments extra special.

[kolaida]

Originally Posted by Gimme_Three

I dont see it like that though, take away those traits ("develop") and then you'll have a leo jr. raph jr. etc.

He's not dumb but he is unfocused, carefree, and a prank/jokster which is why the team doesn't take him seriously. He picks on/ trolls his brother just as much as they pick on him. He's the annoying runt kid brother that loves and fights for the attention and spotlight. That's the difference between him and his brothers take that away and you're taking away mikey.

when mikey does focus or, is right about something and comes through for his brothers it's what makes those moments extra special.

This is how I view Mikey, too. He tends to come through when he needs to. I think it's great he's lived the life he has and can still be so light hearted and accepting of himself and others.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by snake

If the PD movie is successful, will the budget go up for the show?

The people making the movie are a completely different studio than the people working on the Nick show, so the movie being successful or bombing should have no impact on the cartoon.

Its the same thing with the IDW comics, they're totally independent from each other and their success depends on their own sales not how the cartoon does.

Personally I'm hoping the movie bombs so we don't get a sequel, and it shouldn't affect the Nick show in any form.

[TMNTmousers]

I want to see-
Armaggon
Punk Frogs
Triceratons
Foot Ninjas again
Foot Elite
Hun
Mona Lisa
More girl characters
The turtles in different places
Some characters should be killed off like Spider Bytez

[Gimme_Three]

Originally Posted by Bry

Mikey is my favourite Turtle (go figure) and overall I like him a lot on the show. Cipes does a great job in the role, he's a lot of fun, and genuinely funny most of the time. But I just wish he wasn't the butt of the joke so often, and wasn't portrayed as being extremely stupid/dense as much as he is, as well as very clumsy and careless at times.

I feel like Mikey's lightheartedness and good humour helps keep a certain balance on the team, and it'd be cool to see that recognized by the Turtles and Mikey himself now and then. Just some more moments of dignity would be nice to balance things out a bit.

I think mikey pranks/ annoys his brothers more than he's the butt of jokes and he does it to himself (He dishes it out just as much as he takes it). Every time mikey does something that saves or helps the team I feel like he's recognized more than any other turtle because it's so unexpected.

To me mikey has the most memorable moments and one liners that either makes me laugh or gets me nostalgic lol. Take that away or "develop" and your taking away what makes him special, lovable, and funny.

[Gimme_Three]

Originally Posted by kolaida

This is how I view Mikey, too. He tends to come through when he needs to. I think it's great he's lived the life he has and can still be so light hearted and accepting of himself and others.

It makes him more special because it's said that he's more skill than all his brother but because he lacks focus his potential will never be reached, but that doesn't mean he can't show flashes of it.

one of my favorite ep. from 2k3 series was "grudge match" when leo's words about family being all they have sunk in and he became serious and focused for that one moment and completely wrecked his opponent. Awesome!!

[MCLeo28]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

Out of curiosity, was I the only bothered with how easily Casey took out the Footbots his first time fighting them in that "Target is April O'Neil" episode? April too, but at least she eventually was caught. The turtles who have years of training struggled against them their first time, I thought it was crazy that Casey could take them on.

No, I was also bothered by that too until I realized Casey is meant to be OP.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by Gimme_Three

I think mikey pranks/ annoys his brothers more than he's the butt of jokes and he does it to himself (He dishes it out just as much as he takes it). Every time mikey does something that saves or helps the team I feel like he's recognized more than any other turtle because it's so unexpected.

To me mikey has the most memorable moments and one liners that either makes me laugh or gets me nostalgic lol. Take that away or "develop" and your taking away what makes him special, lovable, and funny.

Mikey is the way he is, because he likes to entertain and cheer people up. He is as affected by his brothers the same way they are affected by him.

His purpose in the team is to serve as a reminder that even in the darkest of moments, that light still exists. When one of his brothers is injured he would concern himself with that brother and protect him at all costs.

If one of his brothers is down he goes out of his way to try and make them feel better.

And if one of his brothers was suddenly gone it would be like part of him dies with them. If Mikey is less childish and became more serious. Then he wouldn't be that light to the team that reminds everyone that innocents still exists.

[Technogeek29]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

Mikey is the way he is, because he likes to entertain and cheer people up. He is as affected by his brothers the same way they are affected by him.

His purpose in the team is to serve as a reminder that even in the darkest of moments, that light still exists. When one of his brothers is injured he would concern himself with that brother and protect him at all costs.

If one of his brothers is down he goes out of his way to try and make them feel better.

And if one of his brothers was suddenly gone it would be like part of him dies with them. If Mikey is less childish and became more serious. Then he wouldn't be that light to the team that reminds everyone that innocents still exists.

Then you have SAINW Verse Mikey.

[precision]

I would want to know what Jack Kurtzman's motives are for helping April and the turtles. How does he know so much on the Kraang? Is he a government agent or could be from dimension x and has assumed a human form? How does he get all these pictures without being seen?

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by precision

I would want to know what Jack Kurtzman's motives are for helping April and the turtles. How does he know so much on the Kraang? Is he a government agent or could be from dimension x and has assumed a human form? How does he get all these pictures without being seen?

I am banking my money on him actually being a rogue Kraang, or an Utrom. I.E. He's from the same species as Kraang Prime, but doesn't have the hive minded view of the Kraang. Or it is possible he is the Fugitoid, either way he would have to be on the inside to have all that information.

[Gimme_Three]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

I am banking my money on him actually being a rogue Kraang, or an Utrom. I.E. He's from the same species as Kraang Prime, but doesn't have the hive minded view of the Kraang. Or it is possible he is the Fugitoid, either way he would have to be on the inside to have all that information.

this would be cool!

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Gimme_Three

I think mikey pranks/ annoys his brothers more than he's the butt of jokes and he does it to himself (He dishes it out just as much as he takes it). Every time mikey does something that saves or helps the team I feel like he's recognized more than any other turtle because it's so unexpected.

To me mikey has the most memorable moments and one liners that either makes me laugh or gets me nostalgic lol. Take that away or "develop" and your taking away what makes him special, lovable, and funny.

I mean, I wouldn't want to develop him to the point where he isn't himself anymore... just have some moments of depth peppered in more than they are right now.

He's always gonna be the fun-loving joker type, and I wouldn't want to change that. I like the "little brother" qualities he has, but I just feel he can be too naive and dopey at times.

One of my favourite Michelangelo moments is this one, from the 1990 movie (first 30 seconds):



I always got the impression, even as a kid, that he did understand the seriousness of Donatello's question - he just chose not to deal with it.

With the Nick version, it can seem like he just doesn't fully understand serious/emotional issues at times. And (IMO) the big example there is his insensitive response to April's father being mutated. He didn't seem to have much empathy for April or Kirby, even giving him a "mutant nickname" like all of their enemies, and not seeming to take his mutation very seriously, even in front of a distraught April.

And I mean - one's live action and the other's a cartoon, so it's hard to directly compare them. But regardless, I think you need to ground the comedy-relief characters now and then so they don't become completely obnoxious. I love Mikey, and I think he's a great character when you give him a bit more depth. If anything, him keeping an optimistic mindset and a lighthearted disposition in the face of any threat is even more powerful that way.

[Vicky82]

More delovopment with Mikey make him more mature ect
More emotional and serious moments
Killing a minor character off (if censors allowe it)
When the turtles are hurt and have bruises and scratches in the same places on the turtles bodies, they need to make it more different.
Shredder fighting a lot more, and less time sitting on his arse
Less Kraang
Less humans turning into mutants
New characters - Usagi (doubt this is going to happen), Bishop, Armaggon ect
Storylines from Mirage or Archie comic series.

[rickwj324]

1)A visit to Dimension X leading to a big showdown with the Kraangs and Neutrinos
2)Fugitoid
3)TRICERATONS!!!!!!!!!!
4)A feudal trip in time, featuring Panda Khan

Oh.. and I would love to see Usagi appear!!

--Rick

[Gimme_Three]

Originally Posted by Bry

I mean, I wouldn't want to develop him to the point where he isn't himself anymore... just have some moments of depth peppered in more than they are right now.

He's always gonna be the fun-loving joker type, and I wouldn't want to change that. I like the "little brother" qualities he has, but I just feel he can be too naive and dopey at times.

One of my favourite Michelangelo moments is this one, from the 1990 movie (first 30 seconds):



I always got the impression, even as a kid, that he did understand the seriousness of Donatello's question - he just chose not to deal with it.

With the Nick version, it can seem like he just doesn't fully understand serious/emotional issues at times. And (IMO) the big example there is his insensitive response to April's father being mutated. He didn't seem to have much empathy for April or Kirby, even giving him a "mutant nickname" like all of their enemies, and not seeming to take his mutation very seriously, even in front of a distraught April.

And I mean - one's live action and the other's a cartoon, so it's hard to directly compare them. But regardless, I think you need to ground the comedy-relief characters now and then so they don't become completely obnoxious. I love Mikey, and I think he's a great character when you give him a bit more depth. If anything, him keeping an optimistic mindset and a lighthearted disposition in the face of any threat is even more powerful that way.

cool, i understand completely where you're coming from.

[Donatello19]

A little more of Raph and Mike, including some nice story arcs or something for them...because let's face it, Leo and Don take the spotlight most of the time, and their episodes are usually better and more liked than Raph and Mike's, which tend to be filler except for a few.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by Donatello19

A little more of Raph and Mike, including some nice story arcs or something for them...because let's face it, Leo and Don take the spotlight most of the time, and their episodes are usually better and more liked than Raph and Mike's, which tend to be filler except for a few.

Well to be fair, Raph and Mikey were largely the stars in the OT version. But yes, I do agree they did need some more opportunity to show that they aren't just the "Shell Brained Knuckle Heads" of the group when compared to the Gifted team.

[drgon78]

That is weird my first post got deleted.

-More development for April and her family.
-Irma meeting the turtles(if not in S2).
-More Irma in general.
-Introduce Vernon.
-Leatherhead
-More Baxter the fly.
-April interacting more with the other turtles.
-Neutrinos
-Bebop and Rocksteady.
-More non-ninja human bad guys.
-More April psychic weirdness.
-More dimension X.
-More non-mutant creatures from dimension X.
-Some actual aliens from outer space.
-More female mutants.
-General Traag talking and commanding rock solders.
-More Rat king.
-More development for Mikey.
-More psychic powered villains.
-More character development for Mutagen Man.