war of the CONSOLES!!!!!!!!! - Page 3

**Karpo_007** · 05-07-2003, 12:50 PM

FF series milking? You could say same about mario and Zelda. Wich makes no sense either. All series are best of their genre.

Like I said before, If you like RPG's, then PS" is the only reasonable choice, if you like platformers, GC is the way to go. I like both So I have both.

About the Zelda, I won't risk it by complaining, they might ask me to change it...

Peanut · 05-07-2003, 12:59 PM

No it's not that I don't want to like PS2. I own it. I got it when it came out. It was great. Then came the other two. I played PS2 and GC the same amount because what PS2 has over GC is more variety of 3rd party games. I loved both. Then came the X-Box. PS2 became a DVD player and nothing more. That's because X-Box has everything over PS2 in terms of graphics and sound. I know I'll like Syphon Filter it will be worth my money. PS2 needs to come out with more exclusive games other than just 3 series. I never said I didn't like FF. I liked it. Until it developed into a boring interactive movie. I liked MGS until it began showing me 15 minute long cut scenes. I enjoyed GTA 3, but I'll most likely not play another GTA game until they make it worth my while, in other words adding more than a couple vehicles and a snazzy 80's soundtrack. The point I'm making is, to me, and to many many other people I know, PS2's cons outweigh it's pros, especially when you own all three consoles.

Peanut · 05-07-2003, 01:02 PM

No Karpo you must understand what I'm saying. Mario and Zelda have had sequels. They have come years apart. Mario has stared in many games that aren't platformers (Mario Tennis, Party etc.) What I'm talking about is the fact that a new and hardly different Final Fantasy game is released every year. They are speaking of making 3 games at one time. THAT is milking.

**Karpo_007** · 05-07-2003, 01:41 PM

Now, mario games have little difrences. Super mario 1 2[the real SMB2] are very much alike, but each has some new ideas. Same can be said abou Super mmario world. Same with Zelda, Newest Zelda is VERY much like ocarina of time. Mario sunshine also feels very mucl like Mario 64, with ´few new ideas.

Same with Final fantasy. They have diffrent story everytime, and always new ideas. And people like it that way. It's one of the most selling games series.And Final Fantasies come usually after 2 years of previous. Because of X's extremely high sales,and public demand X2 was made.

I like all above series, and I do like the way Final Fantasy is going, but they can't please all.

Now games like GTA I would never play on consoles, it was originally made for PC, and newest games in the series are best played with a good PC.

impetus · 05-07-2003, 01:45 PM

all I know is castlevania rules but it seems like every game is on a different system....

~~Tokka-B~~ · 05-07-2003, 02:27 PM

No Karpo, I just didn't like those games, and yes even if they were made for Nintendo I still wouldn't enjoy them. And Krang it isn't obvious at all that Ps2 has a lot of "good" (as you put it) third party games, simply because there are few games that I would actually pay money for on that system...not everyone likes the ps2 as much as you I am afraid.

Yea, right now Nintendo is easily selling the most in consoles and games now, since they pretty much monopolize the hand-held video games and most people with GBA have GC since they can be compatible in some games. Yea, another great game I can't wait for is Mario Kart...

**Karpo_007** · 05-07-2003, 02:46 PM

Nintendo does have the best first party games, but not much more. In the long run, I will probably going to own more PS2 than GC games. There Suikoden, Tales series, Final Fantasy, Xenosaga.... Yes I am RPG fan.

*Eye of Sarnath* · 05-07-2003, 02:59 PM

Who isn't?

impetus · 05-07-2003, 03:13 PM

ME!!!! (but hey, you asked

)

*cqb101* · 05-07-2003, 03:17 PM

This is just getting rediculous. Soon a huge flame war is gonna start, and I don't want to get caught in the middle.

*Raven* · 05-07-2003, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cqb101

This is just getting rediculous. Soon a huge flame war is gonna start, and I don't want to get caught in the middle.

o kay........... you just do that.....

**Karpo_007** · 05-07-2003, 04:09 PM

No flaming so far, I hope this doesn't come to that.

Peanut · 05-07-2003, 04:11 PM

Yes but Karpo you have to realize now that the FF series is working on THREE GAMES AT ONE TIME it is milking the series. Also no matter what anyone says Nintendo will always have the best first party games. ALWAYS. There is no possible way PS2 or X-Box will take over in that area. Of course I enjoy RPG's, obviously not as much as you. I don't think I can stand to play more than one mind numbing RPG a year. I get tired of fighting the same battles with constant creatures and what not. I think the best RPG I've played lately was Golden Sun. I haven't decided on the RPG I'll play this year. Any suggestions?

*Raven* · 05-07-2003, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karpo_007

No flaming so far, I hope this doesn't come to that.

dont worry because any one that does I'll beat the living
**** out of them

I mean it so dont even bother

I watch over this forum like a ninja
yes

**DarthRaphael** · 05-07-2003, 05:50 PM

I'll start off by saying that I'm a long-time, die-hard Nintendo fan.

The best console made was the SNES. It really kicked life into home consoles, and killed Sega at every turn.

Favorite games were Super Mario Kart and Secret of Mana.

I owned a PS1, but sold it. Got boring after a while. I preferred my N64.

I own a GC but don't play console or PC games much. I'm still waiting for the next Mario Kart game to be released.

I have to give the X-box a big

for using PC hardware. It is so mod-able and easy to port games to. I know of several people with X-boxes that have 120G hard drives and mod chips. Go rent a game, copy it to the HD, and play all you want. Cool stuff.

*Dane E5R* · 05-07-2003, 05:57 PM

XBox and Dreamcast.

~~Tokka-B~~ · 05-07-2003, 06:28 PM

LOL DR!!!

If I were an X-box fan I would give the pc hardware a thumbs down for that very same reason. Why? No sales for the actual game. That is EXACTLY what happened to DC and is what will happen to the X-box for making a PC instead of a console... Being a GC fan, I will as well give it a thumbs up approval!

So you got that X-box fans? Go rent your games and copy, then you will never have to pay again!!

Anyway, MarioKart was a GREAT game, the best racing game by far. I have beaten top times on the 64 and hope to relive that fun on the GC soon...this time it will be amazing...

Karpo, I do like RPG's, it is just that I have no need for like 10 a year, I can do with 2 at most. I like my Phantasy Star Online just the way it is...

Peanut · 05-07-2003, 07:02 PM

X-Box won't fail Tokka. Is there really a need to be an immature fanboy?

~~Tokka-B~~ · 05-07-2003, 07:18 PM

How have I been immature...?? I am a bit confused now.

Yes, I am a Nintendo fan, is that some kind of horrible thing? Have I done anything yet to rub it in everyone's face that Nintendo is better? I was just stating an observation from something DR has said...as far as I know at least.

Peanut · 05-07-2003, 07:31 PM

Tokka I'm with you on that. I'm KNOW Nintendo is the best I'm a huge fan of Nintendo. I own every Nintendo console to this day. What I'm saying is don't be so negative towards other companies. I too at one time hated
X-Box just because I thought it was worthless and would turn out to be another Dreamcast. Then I realized I was being blind to what the system was really like all because I was a loyal fan of Nintendo. What I'm saying is it's immature to say a system will fail just because you don't like it. Piracy is much higher on the PS2 than with the X-Box as X-Box chips are much more pricey. If PS2 and PS1 especially never and haven't floundered then neither will the X-Box.

05-07-2003, 02:59 PM	#48
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05-07-2003, 03:17 PM	#50
cqb101 Cinephile Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Salem, MA Posts: 8,489	This is just getting rediculous. Soon a huge flame war is gonna start, and I don't want to get caught in the middle. __________________ Facebook

05-07-2003, 05:50 PM	#55
DarthRaphael Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC USA Posts: 913	I'll start off by saying that I'm a long-time, die-hard Nintendo fan. The best console made was the SNES. It really kicked life into home consoles, and killed Sega at every turn. Favorite games were Super Mario Kart and Secret of Mana. I owned a PS1, but sold it. Got boring after a while. I preferred my N64. I own a GC but don't play console or PC games much. I'm still waiting for the next Mario Kart game to be released. I have to give the X-box a big for using PC hardware. It is so mod-able and easy to port games to. I know of several people with X-boxes that have 120G hard drives and mod chips. Go rent a game, copy it to the HD, and play all you want. Cool stuff. __________________ I edit your posts

05-07-2003, 12:50 PM	#41
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	FF series milking? You could say same about mario and Zelda. Wich makes no sense either. All series are best of their genre. Like I said before, If you like RPG's, then PS" is the only reasonable choice, if you like platformers, GC is the way to go. I like both So I have both. About the Zelda, I won't risk it by complaining, they might ask me to change it...

05-07-2003, 12:59 PM	#42
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	No it's not that I don't want to like PS2. I own it. I got it when it came out. It was great. Then came the other two. I played PS2 and GC the same amount because what PS2 has over GC is more variety of 3rd party games. I loved both. Then came the X-Box. PS2 became a DVD player and nothing more. That's because X-Box has everything over PS2 in terms of graphics and sound. I know I'll like Syphon Filter it will be worth my money. PS2 needs to come out with more exclusive games other than just 3 series. I never said I didn't like FF. I liked it. Until it developed into a boring interactive movie. I liked MGS until it began showing me 15 minute long cut scenes. I enjoyed GTA 3, but I'll most likely not play another GTA game until they make it worth my while, in other words adding more than a couple vehicles and a snazzy 80's soundtrack. The point I'm making is, to me, and to many many other people I know, PS2's cons outweigh it's pros, especially when you own all three consoles.

05-07-2003, 01:02 PM	#43
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	No Karpo you must understand what I'm saying. Mario and Zelda have had sequels. They have come years apart. Mario has stared in many games that aren't platformers (Mario Tennis, Party etc.) What I'm talking about is the fact that a new and hardly different Final Fantasy game is released every year. They are speaking of making 3 games at one time. THAT is milking.

05-07-2003, 01:41 PM	#44
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Now, mario games have little difrences. Super mario 1 2[the real SMB2] are very much alike, but each has some new ideas. Same can be said abou Super mmario world. Same with Zelda, Newest Zelda is VERY much like ocarina of time. Mario sunshine also feels very mucl like Mario 64, with ´few new ideas. Same with Final fantasy. They have diffrent story everytime, and always new ideas. And people like it that way. It's one of the most selling games series.And Final Fantasies come usually after 2 years of previous. Because of X's extremely high sales,and public demand X2 was made. I like all above series, and I do like the way Final Fantasy is going, but they can't please all. Now games like GTA I would never play on consoles, it was originally made for PC, and newest games in the series are best played with a good PC.

05-07-2003, 01:45 PM	#45
impetus Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Kansas City Posts: 978	all I know is castlevania rules but it seems like every game is on a different system....

05-07-2003, 02:27 PM	#46
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	No Karpo, I just didn't like those games, and yes even if they were made for Nintendo I still wouldn't enjoy them. And Krang it isn't obvious at all that Ps2 has a lot of "good" (as you put it) third party games, simply because there are few games that I would actually pay money for on that system...not everyone likes the ps2 as much as you I am afraid. Yea, right now Nintendo is easily selling the most in consoles and games now, since they pretty much monopolize the hand-held video games and most people with GBA have GC since they can be compatible in some games. Yea, another great game I can't wait for is Mario Kart...

05-07-2003, 02:46 PM	#47
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Nintendo does have the best first party games, but not much more. In the long run, I will probably going to own more PS2 than GC games. There Suikoden, Tales series, Final Fantasy, Xenosaga.... Yes I am RPG fan.

05-07-2003, 03:13 PM	#49
impetus Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Kansas City Posts: 978	ME!!!! (but hey, you asked )

05-07-2003, 04:09 PM	#52
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	No flaming so far, I hope this doesn't come to that.

05-07-2003, 04:11 PM	#53
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Yes but Karpo you have to realize now that the FF series is working on THREE GAMES AT ONE TIME it is milking the series. Also no matter what anyone says Nintendo will always have the best first party games. ALWAYS. There is no possible way PS2 or X-Box will take over in that area. Of course I enjoy RPG's, obviously not as much as you. I don't think I can stand to play more than one mind numbing RPG a year. I get tired of fighting the same battles with constant creatures and what not. I think the best RPG I've played lately was Golden Sun. I haven't decided on the RPG I'll play this year. Any suggestions?

05-07-2003, 05:57 PM	#56
Dane E5R Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Topeka, Kansas Posts: 1,602	XBox and Dreamcast.

05-07-2003, 06:28 PM	#57
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	LOL DR!!! If I were an X-box fan I would give the pc hardware a thumbs down for that very same reason. Why? No sales for the actual game. That is EXACTLY what happened to DC and is what will happen to the X-box for making a PC instead of a console... Being a GC fan, I will as well give it a thumbs up approval! So you got that X-box fans? Go rent your games and copy, then you will never have to pay again!! Anyway, MarioKart was a GREAT game, the best racing game by far. I have beaten top times on the 64 and hope to relive that fun on the GC soon...this time it will be amazing... Karpo, I do like RPG's, it is just that I have no need for like 10 a year, I can do with 2 at most. I like my Phantasy Star Online just the way it is...

05-07-2003, 07:02 PM	#58
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	X-Box won't fail Tokka. Is there really a need to be an immature fanboy?

05-07-2003, 07:18 PM	#59
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	How have I been immature...?? I am a bit confused now. Yes, I am a Nintendo fan, is that some kind of horrible thing? Have I done anything yet to rub it in everyone's face that Nintendo is better? I was just stating an observation from something DR has said...as far as I know at least.

05-07-2003, 07:31 PM	#60
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Tokka I'm with you on that. I'm KNOW Nintendo is the best I'm a huge fan of Nintendo. I own every Nintendo console to this day. What I'm saying is don't be so negative towards other companies. I too at one time hated X-Box just because I thought it was worthless and would turn out to be another Dreamcast. Then I realized I was being blind to what the system was really like all because I was a loyal fan of Nintendo. What I'm saying is it's immature to say a system will fail just because you don't like it. Piracy is much higher on the PS2 than with the X-Box as X-Box chips are much more pricey. If PS2 and PS1 especially never and haven't floundered then neither will the X-Box.