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Old 07-14-2014, 01:58 PM   #21
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The characterization is a bit screwed up in your suggestions. First of all, why would Leo suggest killing Don first instead of Raph.
In the 2k3 version, the way Leo was reacting to the situation was trying to maintain the hope that their brother could be returned to normal, but at the same time he was at a loss for what to do because the person he would normally turn to for the problem is the problem. And reluctantly he is also considering what may have to happen if they don't succeed.

Leo is the one who would take it upon himself to eliminate a brother if there is no other option. He is the eldest and the leader of the team and he needs to think of the teams safety first. So yes that is an option he would consider, but it's an option he doesn't want to consider for any reason.

Raph on the other hand would balk at the thought of killing a member of the family mercy killing or not. And I can see him throwing that decision in Leo's face by saying "Why should I follow someone who would murder his own brother?"

Mikey would neither be for or against it. I mean yeah he wouldn't want to think of the idea of one of his brothers being put to death by another one and would constantly wonder if there had been an option they hadn't considered.
But on the other hand, he would rather that brother be put out of his misery just so he wouldn't have to suffer anymore.
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Old 07-14-2014, 02:25 PM   #22
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Raph on the other hand would balk at the thought of killing a member of the family mercy killing or not. And I can see him throwing that decision in Leo's face by saying "Why should I follow someone who would murder his own brother?"
Actually, Splinter is the only one Raph wouldn't want to kill. Nonetheless if Splinter was out of control and attacking wildly then Raph would kill the only one he would never hurt, which makes no one safe from Raph. For example; in one of the comics that was written by the creator, Raph went berserk and was hell-bent on killing Donatello when Raph thought Donatello harmed Splinter. All it took was the notion of harming Splinter or himself to make Raphael snap, to try to kill his own sibling or his own master. Raphael really is bloodthirsty, it is the reason why they toned down and changed his character so much. So they made Raphael not Raphael...

Leonardo would only execute one of his brothers if there was no option left, it is not his first decision. Raphael would only mock Leo for being a coward if Leo chose not to fight or do something. Perhaps the one best describing "Why would I follow someone who would murder his own brother" would be Michelangelo.
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Old 07-15-2014, 02:01 PM   #23
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If anyone's going to undergo a secondary mutation, it'll most likely be Raph (Remember the scene where Don says "before some random joe gets mutated" and it zooms in on him?)

Also, what if that venom he got shot in the eye with will get the ball rolling? He said he was fine after Donnie treated him, but what with the mutagen Karai was exposed to having been tinkered with it could be possible he'll start experiencing symptoms.
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Old 07-15-2014, 05:53 PM   #24
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I think instead of the Turtles, it should be a mutant ally that falls victim to it.
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Old 10-11-2014, 08:28 PM   #25
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Raph on the other hand would balk at the thought of killing a member of the family mercy killing or not. And I can see him throwing that decision in Leo's face by saying "Why should I follow someone who would murder his own brother?"
this would be a strong reason for the dark raph arc if

.....don or mikey does end up w/ a secondary mutation

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mikey or don could be blundering around and leo ends up getting hit w/ it, then raph would blame them for it
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Old 10-11-2014, 09:08 PM   #26
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Actually, Splinter is the only one Raph wouldn't want to kill. Nonetheless if Splinter was out of control and attacking wildly then Raph would kill the only one he would never hurt, which makes no one safe from Raph. For example; in one of the comics that was written by the creator, Raph went berserk and was hell-bent on killing Donatello when Raph thought Donatello harmed Splinter. All it took was the notion of harming Splinter or himself to make Raphael snap, to try to kill his own sibling or his own master. Raphael really is bloodthirsty, it is the reason why they toned down and changed his character so much. So they made Raphael not Raphael...

Leonardo would only execute one of his brothers if there was no option left, it is not his first decision. Raphael would only mock Leo for being a coward if Leo chose not to fight or do something. Perhaps the one best describing "Why would I follow someone who would murder his own brother" would be Michelangelo.
Except we're not talking about Mirage Raph--we're talking about 2k12 Raph, who has shown time and time again that his brothers mean a LOT to him: he freezes up when he leads because he can't put their lives in danger, and even gets mad at Splinter when he hits Mikey.

What Mirage Raph was or what you consider to be the "twu Rawph" is irrelevant.
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Old 10-11-2014, 09:10 PM   #27
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If anyone's going to undergo a secondary mutation, it'll most likely be Raph (Remember the scene where Don says "before some random joe gets mutated" and it zooms in on him?)

Also, what if that venom he got shot in the eye with will get the ball rolling? He said he was fine after Donnie treated him, but what with the mutagen Karai was exposed to having been tinkered with it could be possible he'll start experiencing symptoms.
What could happen is that someone (not Donnie) cures Raph from his secondary mutation and he finds out that his own family were close to killing him, which then makes him question his loyalty to Master Splinter.
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