Has Guardians of the Galaxy already won August

[Leo656]

For the record, I also didn't say "most women can't act," I said, "most chicks can't act," as that is my preferred nomenclature when addressing the female species.

I'm aware that since the days of Snoop Dogg, "bitches" has become the preferred term, but... I just find that disrespectful.

[Leolead]

I'm fed up with it! i'm tired of getting into arguments with these stupid f***ing GOTG fans, i want TMNT to win at the box office! everytime i get on CBM, those guys can't seem to accept my opinion on TMNT, "Guardians of the Whatever" has released like 92 TV spots and they say TMNT is releasing too much? i'm not going on CBM for a good while.

[NinjaPug]

Reviews for GOTG are starting to come in. With 19 reviews so far, it's 100% fresh on Rotten Tomatoes.

[Xiewin]

Originally Posted by Leolead

I'm fed up with it! i'm tired of getting into arguments with these stupid f***ing GOTG fans, i want TMNT to win at the box office! everytime i get on CBM, those guys can't seem to accept my opinion on TMNT, "Guardians of the Whatever" has released like 92 TV spots and they say TMNT is releasing too much? i'm not going on CBM for a good while.

Woah dude chill! I know how you feel though. From what I have seen, so many people have been giving GOTG a free pass on every single decision the movie makes, while TMNT continues suffers for doing the same.

[The Stryker]

People on the internet having double standards?

Get outta town!

[MajorViolence]

I honestly can't understand anyone who would think either of these movies have gone overboard with promotion. Compared to the early summer blockbusters, the marketing for both has been extremely laid back up until practically the last minute.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by Xav

He is in the cartoon.

But not in the movie, and being on a TMNT movie board, I am associating him as Leonardo, since he's taking over the job from Jason Biggs next season.

[graphic_content]

Originally Posted by The Stryker

People on the internet having double standards?

Get outta town!

It sickens me and does nothing to help remedy the fact that you cannot seemingly have an intelligent discussion on the internet bc it will always result into something crazy.

[Sumac]

Compared to the early summer blockbusters, the marketing for both has been extremely laid back up until practically the last minute.

More like TMNT marketing was non-existent until the last few weeks.

For the record, I also didn't say "most women can't act," I said, "most chicks can't act," as that is my preferred nomenclature when addressing the female species.

Whatever.

[MajorViolence]

Originally Posted by Sumac

More like TMNT marketing was non-existent until the last few weeks.

True, but even GotG could have promoted a hell of a lot more than it did, considering the resources Disney has at their disposal. TMNT probably went over budget, and is making up for it with a heavy late campaign. Marvel has so such excuse. Even their Cap 2 post-credits scene skipped GotG in favor of pushing Avengers 2, while the one tie-in GotG did get was in Thor 2, arguably the least popular of Marvel's current film franchises. TMNT has been marketed poorly, but I understand why. GotG was marketed almost as poorly, but Marvel/Disney really have no excuse for that.

[Vicky82]

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Disney will launch GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY in an estimated 3,800 theaters on August 1. #GuardiansOfTheGalaxy

I wonder how many theaters TMNT will get.

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[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by Xiewin

Woah dude chill! I know how you feel though. From what I have seen, so many people have been giving GOTG a free pass on every single decision the movie makes, while TMNT continues suffers for doing the same.

What free passes?

I mean, what questionable decisions has Marvel made with Guardians that people should be having problems with compared to what people have dogged TMNT for in similar ways?

I think TMNT, which has won me over from "very leery" to "opening weekend likely" has still deserved a lot of its flak. Even now that I'm digging the vibe, I still have some reservations that are keeping me from getting too hyped (aka I'm trying to not set myself up for disappointment. Keep expectations in check and hope to have them surpassed instead).

[MajorViolence]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

What free passes?

I mean, what questionable decisions has Marvel made with Guardians that people should be having problems with compared to what people have dogged TMNT for in similar ways?

I think TMNT, which has won me over from "very leery" to "opening weekend likely" has still deserved a lot of its flak. Even now that I'm digging the vibe, I still have some reservations that are keeping me from getting too hyped (aka I'm trying to not set myself up for disappointment. Keep expectations in check and hope to have them surpassed instead).

Yeah, I wondered about that myself. GotG is looking like the most faithful Marvel movie adaptation to date, which likely has a lot to do with it being based on the most recent source material. About the biggest alteration they've done is taking away Rocket's cockney accent, and even that wasn't such a big deal since the more recent comics dropped that accent a while back anyway. The comics are every bit as humerous and weird as the movie looks to be. It's not like TMNT, where we literally had an early script that included the turtles being turned into aliens and Colonel Shrader and Casey essentially being Sam Witwicky. Regardless of whether you love or hate this TMNT movie, it's impossible to deny that they've made some controversial decisions, while GotG is making an extremely faithful adaptation even though there's not even enough of a fanbase for those characters to make a fuss if they messed around with it. Not sure how GotG is getting a "free pass" at all, because they haven't done anything which would require one.

[beeshaw]

Originally Posted by MajorViolence

Yeah, I wondered about that myself. GotG is looking like the most faithful Marvel movie adaptation to date, which likely has a lot to do with it being based on the most recent source material. About the biggest alteration they've done is taking away Rocket's cockney accent, and even that wasn't such a big deal since the more recent comics dropped that accent a while back anyway. The comics are every bit as humerous and weird as the movie looks to be. It's not like TMNT, where we literally had an early script that included the turtles being turned into aliens and Colonel Shrader and Casey essentially being Sam Witwicky. Regardless of whether you love or hate this TMNT movie, it's impossible to deny that they've made some controversial decisions, while GotG is making an extremely faithful adaptation even though there's not even enough of a fanbase for those characters to make a fuss if they messed around with it. Not sure how GotG is getting a "free pass" at all, because they haven't done anything which would require one.

^this.

Basically it comes down to GoTG has the benefit of being NEW to the general audience, while still being tied to something that's belove . There's little-to-no baggage attached to it. No nostalgia. No other 'definitive' versions. No 'raping' of childhood (God I hate that expression). They are basically new territory. It's fresh and new to mostly everyone and has the Marvel name attached to it. That's huge nowadays. It's a new property within a beloved franchise. I'm excited for it in a different way than I'm excited for TMNT.

TMNT on the other hand obviously has an uphill battle. It's been done already, multiple times, across many major platforms. Every generation has their ideal version, whether it be the Mirage Comics, the IDW comics, the 90's movie, 80's cartoon, Nick cartoon... Hell, there's a guy I work with who's fave version is TMNT III (don't ask). That's a WHOLE lot of baggage to overcome for most people. The version they grew up with is the one they hold near and dear. PD's REALLY have to knock it out of the park to win a lot of those people over.

I will say, I applaud them for trying something different this time around. They could have remade the 90's flick, played it safe with the designs and collected their paycheques. I'm okay with the design changes as most of them seem to be for good reasons (more realistic/believable, better performances). I will make judgements on the story/origin changes once I see everything in context.

I'm just hoping this does well enough to warrant a sequel, they learn what worked, discard what doesn't and make it bigger and better.

[Sumac]

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[MajorViolence]

Well, looks like Guardians of the Galaxy is already doing well enough for a sequel.

[terrorblade]

I'm still not sure why we're promoting Guardians of the Galaxy here.


Who am I kidding...of course I know why.

[Shark_Blade]

Because of Bay haters, typically.

I'm giving this movie a chance because I like the raccoon (the other characters look dull tbh) and not because of the haters constantly praising this movie like the second coming of jesus. My excitement for tmnt is definitely higher but eh, we'll see how this gotg goes.I'd laugh if it's crap though.

[Galactus]

Originally Posted by beeshaw

I will say, I applaud them for trying something different this time around. They could have remade the 90's flick, played it safe with the designs and collected their paycheques. I'm okay with the design changes as most of them seem to be for good reasons (more realistic/believable, better performances). I will make judgements on the story/origin changes once I see everything in context.

See I don't think making something faithfully would necessarily be playing it safe given how the standard mode in Hollywood has long been to change everything to what they consider marketable.

They obviously had a great amount of confidence that I don't think it entered their minds that what they were planning would be unpopular. Of course they've altered their plans and even altered them some more which does seem like they are playing it safe, some would argue playing it smart.

I also think if you had a film maker really passionate about it a remake would be daring. Look at Peter Jackson with King Kong.

I'm just hoping this does well enough to warrant a sequel, they learn what worked, discard what doesn't and make it bigger and better.

Admittedly I have a lot of problems with the upcoming movie but almost (but not quite) top of the list is I don't see much room for improvement. It's obvious the overall design of the characters don't sit right with a lot of people but there's only so much you can change them and still have it be part of the same canon. It's not like you can shrink them and de-clothe them. If happen to hate the Shredder you can't really have a do-over and reintroduce him properly, is it?

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by MajorViolence

Well, looks like Guardians of the Galaxy is already doing well enough for a sequel.

This happened for Green Lantern too.